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Isn’t it time to add “statesman” to the introduction. Considering the amount of international diplomacy he is doing and the impact he has had on the world. I can’t think of a modern politician who deserves this label more. Even the Russian Wikipedia describes him as such. Come on! [[User:Kaprekar30|Kaprekar30]] ([[User talk:Kaprekar30|talk]]) 07:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC) |
Isn’t it time to add “statesman” to the introduction. Considering the amount of international diplomacy he is doing and the impact he has had on the world. I can’t think of a modern politician who deserves this label more. Even the Russian Wikipedia describes him as such. Come on! [[User:Kaprekar30|Kaprekar30]] ([[User talk:Kaprekar30|talk]]) 07:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC) |
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With recent statements wrt same-sex partnerships and marriage, I propose adding this paragraph to #Political views:Social issues: |
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In responding to a petition demanding equal rights for same-sex couples, Zelenskyy echoed the view that family does not depend on sex and asked the [[Prime Minister of Ukraine]] to review [[Civil union|civil partnerships]] for same-sex couples. With regards to [[same-sex marriage]], Zelenskyy cited a provision in the [[Constitution of Ukraine]] barring same-sex marriage, as well as a ban on wartime changes to the Constitution, ruling out an introduction of same-sex marriages during the [[2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine|ongoing war]].[https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/02/world/europe/zelensky-same-sex-marriage.html] Civil rights organizations praised the statement, though criticizing its vagueness, as Zelenskyy eschewed details about legal proposals for civil partnerships.[https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/08/02/ukraine-president-backs-civil-partnerships-for-same-sex-couples/][https://twitter.com/KyivPride/status/1554503002584715267] |
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Editors notes: 0) The primary source is blacklisted as a petition site, but linked within the nytimes article. It's probably relevant enough to be whitelisted, but I'm tired because it's 2AM in my timezone. 1) I don't know how to cite in source editing mode, so please replace the bare links with citations. 2) This may need some copyediting. 3) Feel free to add more appropriate citations. [[User:Mirrortemplar|Mirrortemplar]] ([[User talk:Mirrortemplar|talk]]) 00:13, 3 August 2022 (UTC) |
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A "Public image" section in this article
Bit of a Wiki amateur here, but does this article need a "Public image" section, as there are in articles for other world leaders? Zelensky has been propelled into an international limelight as a result of the invasion, his response to which has won him international praise but also concerns about his governance. Before the war, he was also known in Ukraine - and likely won the election - because of his communication style and social media savvy. Doesn't his domestic and international public image - pre and post invasion - deserve a separate section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.180.192.10 (talk) 12:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, sure, and you are welcome to suggest your version here. My very best wishes (talk) 03:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
- A touch late but I want to add to this point that his "reaction image" to the atrocities committed in Bucha should be included in this article somewhere. It's a haunting photograph and conveys his emotions regarding the current war incredibly well. Ruby.Boulton (talk) 00:00, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
Suggestion
Hi, would it be possible to change Zelenskyy’s 2019 official portrait to the one after Kyiv was liberated? Just to bring it up to date. Devdevo1919 (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Russian name removal
I suggest we remove the Russian name since he's the president of Ukraine and Ukraine has only one official language. It was added on [21 April 2022]. He considers himself Ukrainian and Jewish at the same time. What's the point of having the Russian name here? Is he Russian? 212.191.80.243 (talk) 17:07, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- @212.191.80.243 Zelenskyy was born in the Russian speaking region of Ukraine, and his first language is Russian. Ukrainian isn't the only language spoken in Ukraine, there's a very large population of Russians living in Ukraine and the Russian language is recognised as a minority language. Gorrrillla5 11:24, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
Zelenskyy’s first language is Russian.Supernt7852 (talk) 03:22, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Inaccurate representation of Zelenskyy's social views (section 5.4)
The first part of section 5.4, which refers to source [251], shows an inaccurate representation of Zelenskyy's views as they are represented in source [251] - Section 5.4 should be updated by a qualified editor to be accurate to the source.
Immediately under section 5.4, the article writes:
Zelenskyy supports the free distribution of medical cannabis, free abortion in Ukraine, and the legalisation of prostitution and gambling.[251]
The citation for this is a Russian/Ukrainian language news source in which an interviewer asks questions of Zelenskyy: https://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/vladimir-zelenskiy-nam-vygodno-raspustit-1555546435.html The article misrepresents Zelenskyy's views as explained in this source.
I used Google Translate from Russian to English - all quotations used are directly pasted from Google Translate
The article quotes Zelenskyy as saying about medical cannabis:
"Medical marijuana, I think it's normal, it's sold in drops. By the way, I consulted on this matter with Evgeny Olegovich Komarovsky."
When asked again about legalization, he says: "For legalize droplets - yes."
Section 5.4 makes it seem as though Zelenskyy supports free distribution of medical marijuana. It would be more clear if the article said that he 'supports legalized medical marijuana' or 'legalized medical marijuana droplets.'
On abortion Zelenskyy says:
"Guys, I think that a person chooses an abortion himself, please. I think it should not be banned. Why do we need to talk to you about what to ban?" He follows this up, saying "To be honest, we need to climb into human freedom less."
Section 5.4 grossly misrepresents his views on abortion. Nowhere in this article does it say that he supports free abortion in Ukraine. He specifically says that it should not be banned. Section 5.4 should say this instead of what it says. Similarly to his opinion on cannabis, 5.4 makes it seem as though he supports cost-free abortions.
On Prostitution, Zelenskyy says:
"Sex for money? Honestly, guys, I think we have the opportunity, and I will now answer all the previous questions, to make Las Vegas. Society would not mind, and taxes would be paid. To give an opportunity to some city, some territory and open it all there."
Section 5.4 makes it seem as though he supports prostitution throughout Ukraine, when the source quotes him as being open to legalization in a specific potential territory. It should be updated to reflect his views as per the citation.
Between these 3 issues that I have with the 251 source in Section 5.4, this article should be updated by a qualified editor to reflect Zelenskyy's views as represented in the cited source. I don't know if Google Translate is trusted to be accurate enough for the highest Wikipedia standards. If the translations are accurate, section 5.4 clearly misrepresents his views per the source cited.
WikEdits5 (talk) 07:04, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Statesman
Isn’t it time to add “statesman” to the introduction. Considering the amount of international diplomacy he is doing and the impact he has had on the world. I can’t think of a modern politician who deserves this label more. Even the Russian Wikipedia describes him as such. Come on! Kaprekar30 (talk) 07:21, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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With recent statements wrt same-sex partnerships and marriage, I propose adding this paragraph to #Political views:Social issues:
In responding to a petition demanding equal rights for same-sex couples, Zelenskyy echoed the view that family does not depend on sex and asked the Prime Minister of Ukraine to review civil partnerships for same-sex couples. With regards to same-sex marriage, Zelenskyy cited a provision in the Constitution of Ukraine barring same-sex marriage, as well as a ban on wartime changes to the Constitution, ruling out an introduction of same-sex marriages during the ongoing war.[1] Civil rights organizations praised the statement, though criticizing its vagueness, as Zelenskyy eschewed details about legal proposals for civil partnerships.[2][3]
Editors notes: 0) The primary source is blacklisted as a petition site, but linked within the nytimes article. It's probably relevant enough to be whitelisted, but I'm tired because it's 2AM in my timezone. 1) I don't know how to cite in source editing mode, so please replace the bare links with citations. 2) This may need some copyediting. 3) Feel free to add more appropriate citations. Mirrortemplar (talk) 00:13, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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