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Welcome to my talk page! If you haven't been here before, please read the below paragraphs.

Are you here because I reverted your edit? If so, please read the below First of all, click on all the links in the template I left on your user page (usually there will be one), then take a deep breath, remember to avoid making it personal, and post here if you still think it necessary. If your request is a reasonable objection (I.e. I stuffed up, again, since I am not exactly perfect), I will typically self-revert (if the edit is still live), strike the warning template, and leave an apology note below it. If, however, the edit cannot be reinstated in its current form, but can be made suitable, I will give some direction to policies, guidelines or help pages, and suggest that you try to fix it yourself first (you will probably learn more this way than if I do it for you). If you still aren't sure how to fix it, then let me know and I will make the requested change.

Dealing with discussions which need to be put on hold for a bit

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Discussion is very important on Wikipedia. However, sometimes, due to various reasons, discussion sometimes ends up on a course which will never become productive, or resolve any kind of dispute. If this happens here, I may request that you temporarily refain from posting further messages here (except required notices), per WP:NOBAN. The objective is to act as a metaphorical circuit breaker (before we have a metaphorical fire). It is nothing against you or your viewpoint, but simply me assessing that the discussion needs to be put on hold for a while, since its current trajectory isn't going anywhere good. If I ask you to stay off, please respect this. I don't take it lightly. I will also try to stay out of your way for the duration of the temporary pause.

If I am acting a bit odd-er

Should I ever go on some random vandalism spree or start acting much weirder than usual, don't waste time warning me here, just limit the damage and block me immediately, as my account would have been compromised.

Archiving and deleting

I tend to keep this page trimmed down a bit, and will usually archive finished discussions fairly quickly (usually in less than a week). I don't like to delete them entirely, unless it is mere vandalism or personal attacks with no real critical value. Personal attacks with critical value will be archived as usual. I also delete any sort of "awards" given by editors later found to be sockpuppets, or evading a block. The archives can be found at Archive 0 (an old version of my talkpage) and /Archive 1.

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Hello, take a look

Hello. I hope this message meets you well. If you aren't too busy, do review this page Alex (BBNaija). Amaekuma (talk) 17:12, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Amaekuma: looks like someone else got there first as it has already been reviewed, but I will look it over anyway. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 22:36, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Amaekuma: I've had a look at it, and made a minor change myself, but there is a more significant issue which I think needs your attention. The "Controversies" and "Personal life" sections seem to consist of content which is probably against "Wikipedia is not gossip". Those sections may also have some issues regarding the "biographies of living persons" policy, so I would recommend that you review the content of both sections to ensure that it meets policy. Just because a newspaper has published content on a person, doesn't mean that Wikipedia needs to include that information, and, if challenged, you should be able to show that it is not just verifiable, but also that it should be included. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 04:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay Mako001 Amaekuma (talk) 10:04, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Buffalo bill edit

Your message says I removed all the info on the page, but I didn't. 72.188.47.73 (talk) 23:16, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, that was a misclick. Your edit was not in line with what the sources say, so it was supposed to be a warning for unsourced changes. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 08:05, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your Account

Your account isn't compromised, is it? Here: User talk:ArrestLand 77. Nythar^T^.^C 08:53, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is going on?

What is the point of this effectively incomprehensible edit, and the others you made to that user's talk page? firefly ( t · c ) 10:16, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Firefly@Nythar:Trying to pull their attention off the article space until the block arrived. I have some very bad ideas and that was one of them. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 11:30, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Mako001 hmmm - can I recommend not doing that in the future, if only because doing so will make people wonder if your account has been compromised. firefly ( t · c ) 11:32, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, like I said, I have some very bad ideas sometimes. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 11:44, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your nonconstructive revert

Using politically biased terminology (e.g. using "captured" to describe the liberation, or the freeing of land/territory by the official government and armed forces of a nation from terrorist and extremist militant groups) should not be used on Wikipedia. Do not revert my edits. Feel free to discuss if you like. 172.103.140.96 (talk) 05:04, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You're joking, right? 😳 "Lberated" by Assad? It would be a serious question as to whether it would be better under Assad or ISIL. (Hyperbole detected)

Liberated is actually a non-neutral term, so should be avoided unless most reliable sources say "liberated", and the reliable sources (which means that RT is out) say that it was "captured", not "liberated"Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 07:38, 11 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion?

Alley of Angels, the Alley of Angels#Use to promote the war with Ukraine section. An editor didn't like it. Opinion on my handling and the content would be appreciated! I'm signing off now. Thanks for holding down the fort! Cheers Adakiko (talk) 11:11, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Adakiko: It looks like their motive was an issue, but I often find myself disagreeing with an editors motivation, but not so much with the action itself. Having said that, I wouldn't remove it entirely, but, there are some issues with that section. It has got some copyright issues, and fails to really explain why this coordinated tik-tok propaganda campaign is relevant to the article. The way part of it read "Given the similarity of these videos, they fit a pattern of state propaganda..." was not in an encyclopedic tone, so that was a hint of possible copyright trouble.

It needs to have the copyrighted content cleaned out, and the section reduced to a more appropriate single sentence mention, since having am entire section which only once mentions the memorial in passing is a bit unnecessary. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 11:40, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Mako001. I didn't check the sources. Not many English RS sources. Adakiko (talk) 13:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Adakiko: I did some cleanup on the article. Nothing was actually a copyright violation, but there was some uncomfortably close paraphrasing of the sources in at least one case, but nothing needing to be revision deleted. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 13:28, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps without attacking a living person in the edit summary next time. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:30, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ToBeFree: One does forget that Putin is a person. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 01:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nevertheless, I will try to avoid doing so. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 01:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Пойдем, Брэндон! or maybe Йдемо, Брендоне! ? Adakiko (talk) 06:54, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can definitely understand that. Thanks and no worries. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 09:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Edit-warring with vandals

(Nothing about you, Mako, but since it regards this talkpage...) @SunilNevlaFan and JavaHurricane: Please don't edit-war with vandals. Just wait for the block. Edit-warring makes a mess of page histories and watchlists and rewards vandals with attention. Thanks. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 11:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Might I add, I don't usually bother to revert anything that numpties like that one add. Once they're blocked it's quite easy to hit "restore this revision" or "rollback". It's the difference between 23 pings and 15. I don't take any offence to people adding garbage to my talkpage, it's part and parcel of being an RC patroller. Though not addressed to me, I'll bear that in mind anyway, since it's advice I could apply to myself in other situations. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 11:23, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Tamzin:: not sure why I've been pinged here. I'd only made two reverts when I came across the disruption in the RC, before seeing the page history and leaving to other things. Java Hurricane 11:28, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any WP pages that have recommendations on how to handle this sort of thing? A "school of hard knocks" learning experience?

Adakiko (talk) 13:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RBI mentions it, I think it's WP:BRI. Basically, if they start to edit war in some way, wait for the block, then undo it all once they're blocked. The essays at the end of the Wikipedia:Vandalism page might be helpful? Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 13:42, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nepalese_general_election

hello it appears you have reverted my edit. is it by mistake? I have corrected the information. 202.168.40.123 (talk) 08:01, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, I couldn't see any source that you had provided. The source below still called it the "Third Front". Please read Wikipedia:Citing sources if you aren't sure how to add the sources, or ask here if you still aren't sure. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 08:06, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Amal Ghandour

Hello, Mako001,

I don't know why, but you didn't post a talk page notice, informing the article creator that you nominated this article for AFD deletion. You used Twinkle which should have taken care of this notifications. Please check your Twinkle Preferences and make sure "Notify page creator" is checked off. And make sure when you tag an article/page for deletion that this box is checked off in the box Twinkle uses.

Whatever you think of this article, it's important to notify content creators when pages they worked on are being discussed for deletion. They can often work on improviging the article and they should be able to participate in the deletion discussion. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:50, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz:Huh? I usually use twinkle, so it should have happened automatically, I must've unchecked it by mistake. Thanks for letting me know. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 03:08, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: Also (a bit off topic but...) is there any way you could make your talkpage a bit smaller? It takes several minutes to load on my device. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 03:56, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Third World

Hi Mako, I just studied Google Ngram for 1 hour to ascertain the history of the use of "third world" in english litterature and I did supply references to old literature, early 20th century litterature, wiki articles and hundreds of books on NGRAM. as HTML references, and you broadly deleted the curious history of the term Third World which indubitably referred to theology and then to globalization. 2A02:8440:5440:A21F:4598:7DD9:84D3:7F14 (talk) 09:28, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The only source you provided was a Google search link, you need to cite your sources accurately, otherwise it cannot be verified. Mako001 (C) (T) 🇺🇦 09:34, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

help about upload to wiki

i wanted to add a video of topological changes of a village Maladkal so that people can understand the change in topography. i have got this from google timelapse and made a screen record from the site can i upload it to wikipedia if so how. i am asking this as i have seen your edit profile on the Maladkal topic. i am new please help N0madicSaint (talk) 10:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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 Hi Mako, I just studied Google Ngram for 1 hour to ascertain the history of the use of "third world" in english litterature and I did supply references to old literature, early 20th century litterature, wiki articles and hundreds of books on NGRAM. as HTML references, and you broadly deleted the curious history of the term Third World which indubitably referred to theology and then to globalization. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8440:5440:A21F:4598:7DD9:84D3:7F14|2A02:8440:5440:A21F:4598:7DD9:84D3:7F14]] ([[User talk:2A02:8440:5440:A21F:4598:7DD9:84D3:7F14|talk]]) 09:28, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
 :The only source you provided was a Google search link, you need to [[WP:CITE|cite your sources]] accurately, otherwise it cannot be [[Wp:v|v]]erified. [[User:Mako001|Mako001]][[Special:Contributions/Mako001|&nbsp;(C)&nbsp;]][[User talk:Mako001|&nbsp;(T)&nbsp;]] 🇺🇦 09:34, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
+== help about upload to wiki ==
+i wanted to add a video of topological changes of a village [[Maladkal]] so that people can understand the change in topography. i have got this from google timelapse and made a screen record from the site can i upload it to wikipedia if so how. i am asking this as i have seen your edit profile on the [[Maladkal]] topic. i am new please help [[User:N0madicSaint|N0madicSaint]] ([[User talk:N0madicSaint|talk]]) 10:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)