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August 13

Opening dialogue in Top Gun - persons & their ranks

The well-known opening dialogue in Top Gun is "Morning Scott." - "Morning Vince." (the reply is often wrongly cited as "Morning Wells.", but this is only the next sentence) Questions: a) What were the functions and ranks of Vince & Scott, please? b) Scott is known to be Navy officer Scott Krambeck, but no one seems to know who Vince is - is there maybe a chance to find out? --KnightMove (talk) 03:49, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~You can see them at the very end (4:05) of the youtube video watch?v=EZfM2VMs_vI.~~ Maybe somebody who knows naval insignia can figure out their ranks, but I kind of doubt you can determine their functions from a few seconds onscreen. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:46, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the additional video, although they can be seen there only just as good as in mine. --KnightMove (talk) 13:58, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm no the off-ramp to the senile zone, duh dah duh duh. Clarityfiend (talk) 11:09, 14 August 2022 (UTC) [reply]

Meanwhile I have made myself familiar with United States Navy officer rank insignia on the collar of their khaki uniforms. Vince is clearly a Lieutenant. Scott is either a Lieutenant Junior Grade or an Ensign, depending on the color of the insignia on his collar. Unfortunately, this is very hard to spot in the dimmed light. Maybe someone can help, anyway? --KnightMove (talk) 13:54, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Vince is a Lieutenant
But is Scott a Lieutenant Junior Grade...
... or an Ensign?

Doctor Who

The Doctor often travels through time and meets up with famous historical figures. I was just reading the biography of Niccolò Paganini and realized they would get on quite well. Has there ever been an episode featuring the two of them? Viriditas (talk) 18:56, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nice idea Viriditas. There hasn't been a meeting in any of the TV episodes. There are so many books and Big Finish audio stories that they may have met in one of those. Maybe we can photoshop the TARDIS and the Dr of your choice into this painting File:Liszt at the Piano.JPG :-). MarnetteD|Talk 00:22, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 16

Mozart vs. Beecke

Youtube clip of what looks like a German movie with Czech subtitles. The clip shows a piano competition between Mozart and Franz Ignaz von Beecke. What is the movie? Thanks. 2601:648:8201:5DD0:0:0:0:34C5 (talk) 07:45, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's Mozart - Ich hätte München Ehre gemacht (2006). ---Sluzzelin talk 08:09, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! 2601:648:8201:5DD0:0:0:0:34C5 (talk) 08:28, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Based on a real event: "In 1775, von Beecke met the 19-year-old Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart in Munich and the two engaged in a piano playing competition at the well-known inn Zum Schwarzen Adler", according to our article on von Beecke. Alansplodge (talk) 12:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I saw that in the von Beecke article. It was interesting that in the movie, Mozart won the competition. There is yet another account of the story in one of Mozart's letters home to his father: see here. 2601:648:8201:5DD0:0:0:0:34C5 (talk) 17:51, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know whether you'd noticed, but in that movie Beecke is played by Siegfried Mauser, a pianist and musicologist, not a professional actor. ---Sluzzelin talk 19:17, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting, and no, I didn't notice that. Now I'll have to check who played Mozart. 2601:648:8201:5DD0:0:0:0:34C5 (talk) 03:53, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Xaver Hutter [de], a professional actor not known for his musical abilities, so a stand-in pianist may have been used for the close-ups of Mozart's hands playing the keyboard. --Lambiam 08:17, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I hope it was a better match than in (iirc) The Favour, the Watch and the Very Big Fish, where little pink hands substituted for Jeff Goldblum's big brown hands. —Tamfang (talk) 03:20, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What do you call a TV or radio programme that is recorded to be broadcast only if something goes wrong with the scheduled programming?

Hi, I just created de:Havarieprogramm and wanted to know if English Wikipedia has something about this phenomenon as well: Some TV or radio stations prepare programming that is broadcast in case e.g. a someone in a live show faints, or if a live broadcast fails due to a technical mishap, or in a similar situation. Thank you! --Gnom (talk) 15:05, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is not a specific word or term in English, though if it were described as a "replacement program" or something like that, people would understand what you were saying. --Jayron 32 15:39, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the UK they'll normally just show a random repeat of some sitcom or other. Shantavira|^{feed me} 17:44, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Consider Filler (media). Card Zero (talk) 19:20, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If something goes wrong during a live show, they usually just cut to a commercial. The host says "we'll be right back" and the studio crew knows to cut away immediately. The guest could just be doing something embarassing rather than fainting. 2601:648:8201:5DD0:0:0:0:34C5 (talk) 03:51, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cutting to a commercial would be quite impossible on the BBC (just as an example).... Fgf10 (talk) 07:24, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 17

Anyone recognize this movie?

I'm thinking of a black-and-white movie, probably from the 1940s or 1950s, which I've seen on TV but don't remember very well. The primary setting is a mansion on a large country estate in the US, probably New England. I think someone is visiting the estate not realizing that the owner is a villain. The estate is surrounded by a fence and at one point someone has to get through this fence without being seen by guards. I also recall that the road to reach the mansion goes over a small bridge which collapses at some point, probably intentionally. Finally, the estate also has a guest house or some such building, which at the end of the movie is destroyed by fire. I thought the villain might have been a Nazi (postwar) and might have been played by George Sanders, but I haven't found anything that matches. Anyone have a good guess? --174.95.81.219 (talk) 08:15, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Have you searched through Category:Films set in New England? -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:49, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are too many for me to work that way. Thanks for the idea, though. --174.95.81.219 (talk) 10:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Too silly for words

The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

How badly do you want to know? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 11:45, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How helpful will you be if I answer that? --174.95.81.219 (talk) 18:10, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You raised the question, someone advised you of a possible way to figure it out, and you won't do it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:28, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Knock it off, Bugs. That "possible" way requires opening over 600 Wikipedia pages to look for one that fits, and it only works if I was right about New England. I asked if anyone recognized the movie or had a good guess. --174.95.81.219 (talk) 06:36, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the time you've spent arguing about it, you could have been reviewing those articles. It again raises the question of how badly you want to know the answer. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 10:40, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No it doesn't. --Viennese Waltz 11:21, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:07, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not arguing, I'm asking a question. You're arguing. --174.95.81.219 (talk) 20:22, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue anymore until you've paid. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:55, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was Rebecca...or was it? InedibleHulk (talk) 04:23, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good guess, but no. Earlier I said I thought the villain might be an ex-Nazi; I'm pretty sure that he wanted power over masses of people somehow, rather than the crime being a personal one as in Rebecca. --174.95.81.219 (talk) 06:36, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, a supervillain. ~~Gregory Gaye~~ Helmut Dantine played quite a few Nazis, possibly some exes, with big plans for decent society. Might narrow the hunt down a bit. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:20, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your last point above probably removes this from contention, but is there any chance it's Another Thin Man? It's been too long since I saw it, but it hits several of the points you had in your original post. Matt Deres (talk) 15:31, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm sure it didn't have a series character like Nick Charles in it. But thanks. --174.95.81.219 (talk) 20:22, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Could it be a version of The Most Dangerous Game? —Tamfang (talk) 03:22, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Documentary help

Dear Sir/madam of Wikipedia,

I am a new user on wiki & i am learning and focusing to create new articles, I have finished my draft version and would like to submit it for a review but I have no idea how I am able to this, please advice me or do this for me, thank you,

The link to my draft article is below

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Life_After_War_:_Iraq_(film)?markasread=254278387&markasreadwiki=enwiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mynameismaria (talk • contribs) 16:05, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can sign your posts by typing four tildes (like ~~~~); see Wikipedia:Signatures. Above your draft article there is now a huge grey box that starts with Draft article not currently submitted for review. The bottom line of that grey box has a blue button that says, Submit the draft for review! Simply click that button. --Lambiam 16:53, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, if you need any further help, the best place is Wikipedia:Teahouse, the home of friendly advice for new editors. Alansplodge (talk) 20:18, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, if you'd condescend to use internal link syntax – Draft:Life After War : Iraq (film) – the link would be more legible, and those of us who dislike “.m.” links would be happier. —Tamfang (talk) 03:25, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 18

Symbol on cover of 2022 RCM Piano series

Hi! I understand that the musical symbol depicted on the left of this cover is a C clef. What is the one depicted on this cover? Thanks, 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 02:42, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lower down the C clef article it says that "the C-clef was formerly written in a more angular way, sometimes still used, or, more often, as a simplified K-shape when writing the clef by hand". Could this be an example of that more angular style? --Viennese Waltz 05:55, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This page is a fairly comprehensive list of music symbols. It has a variety of K-style clefs to peruse. --Jayron 32 14:13, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like some kind of machined part to me, with slots to reduce the weight and struts in directions where it needs strength. (The V-shape looks like a weak point, to be fair.) Is there any possibility it's showing some kind of metal frame of a large piano? Looking at images they don't look the same, though. Blythwood (talk) 01:41, 20 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A belated suggestion, EpicPupper. Googling the book series, all the books in it for which I could find images use either one or the other of the two shapes you have linked (though I may have missed some). My impression is that they are part of decoratively carved wood sound apertures on pianos (doubtless there's a name for these). I wonder if it's just chance that one of them was carved as a C-clef, and there was no intention by either the piano manufacturer or by the publisher that it should also be a clef? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.209.121.96 (talk) 18:10, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

August 21

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 ::[https://elbsound.studio/catalog-of-music-symbols.php This page] is a fairly comprehensive list of music symbols.  It has a variety of K-style clefs to peruse.  --[[User:Jayron32|<span style="color:#009">Jayron</span>]][[User talk:Jayron32|<b style="color:#090">''32''</b>]] 14:13, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 :Looks like some kind of machined part to me, with slots to reduce the weight and struts in directions where it needs strength. (The V-shape looks like a weak point, to be fair.) Is there any possibility it's showing some kind of metal frame of a large piano? Looking [https://wengleemusic.wordpress.com/2008/05/28/the-cast-iron-frame/ at images] they don't look the same, though. [[User:Blythwood|Blythwood]] ([[User talk:Blythwood|talk]]) 01:41, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
+:A belated suggestion, {{u|EpicPupper}}. Googling the book series, all the books in it for which I could find images use either one or the other of the two shapes you have linked (though I may have missed some). My impression is that they are part of decoratively carved wood sound apertures on pianos (doubtless there's a name for these). I wonder if it's just chance that one of them was carved as a C-clef, and there was no intention by either the piano manufacturer or by the publisher that it should also be a clef? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/90.209.121.96|90.209.121.96]] ([[User talk:90.209.121.96|talk]]) 18:10, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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