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Nigar Helmi Abbasbeyli

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Nigar Helmi Abbasbeyli (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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The person is not notability, does not meet the criteria. Samral (talk) 11:34, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 August 31. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 11:51, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, Women, and Azerbaijan. Shellwood (talk) 12:14, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Keep - Article format is an issue, but person is notability per WP:SIGCOV by the sources cited in the article. PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 16:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

• Delete Not only does the subject fail notability, the editor who created the article made exactly 10 edits before posting this article on the main space. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 22:59, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

  You are right in questioning the edit history of the creator, however the topic does meet notability through significant coverage apparent in the sources used in the article. PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 15:11, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

• I can only speak about the Turkish sources here. Ref 2 from an RS is quite lenghty, however, it mostly consists of "Her work will be shown in an expedition" and then it's a bunch of quotes from a few people. I don't really see much significant coverage about her. Ref 3 from an RS is super short, and wouldn't qualify as significant coverage. Ref 4 from an RS is only 3 sentences long, wouldn't call that SIGCOV either. Ref 7 is the exact same source as Ref 2, so it can't be counted as seperate. Haberler.com isn't considered to be reliable on the Turkish Wikipedia anyway. Ref 10 is from a random website I've never heard of, I don't think it's a RS. Now, looking at the Turkish sources, I don't see a reason why I should be convinced of Azerbaijani being any different. I'd be surprised if there suddenly was a huge contrast between the sources. Considering the nominator is fluent in Azerbaijani (and a former azwiki sysop), I'm leaning towards delete as well. Mind you that just looking at the titles, Refs 1 and 8 appear to be about the exact same thing as Ref 2. Gonna pull the refbomb card here. ~Styyx^Talk? 17:10, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

  She may as well meet Wikipedia:WikiProject Contemporary Art/Notability under criteria: "has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition" as her exhibition called Legacy of Karabakh is displayed at the Atatürk Cultural Center which is a significant venue and the exhibition seems rather significant. @Styyx I see why you are pulling the Refbomb card, I read up on it. However, I think this is not a case of refbomb because even Daily Sabah, a reliable news source given the topic, refers to her as "Famous Azerbaijani Artists". PiccklePiclePikel (talk) 17:33, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

That's an essay, which tend to have almost no value when it comes to an AfD per WP:SNG. You could make an argument for WP:ENT#4b instead, which is at least a guideline. However, I think it's a bit borderline. Having a single exhibition, for just over a week, in a culture center that hosts hundreds of exhibitions a year, IMO doesn't make someone automatically notable, and the guideline itself states that those people are "likely notable", not "definitely". I don't think an argument based on barely meeting an SNG is going to convince others to keep what is pretty much cross-wiki spam. ~Styyx^Talk? 18:04, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

What do you mean by essay? The article seems to talk about what happened at the opening of the exhibit. "launched in AKM by Deputy Minister of Tourism Özgül Özkan Yavuz, Consul General of the Republic of Azerbaijan in Istanbul Narmina Mustafayeva" seems quite significant, especially in the political-historical context that the exhibition sits in with the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. What are you referring to with Wikipedia:Notability (people)#4B? The exhibition is talked about in the major Turkish newspapers, not just Daily Sabah, Akşam, Yeni Şafak but also the big daily's Milliyet, Hürriyet have entries about this exhibition. So yeah its not definitely notable as most things as you say, but makes a quite strong case for it being notable enough. PiccklePiclePikel@Styyx (talk) 18:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)