Talk:Acne

Question

Could the one use of "greasy" be changed to "oily" as the latter is often used in this article (9 times by my count). "Oily" seems to me to be just a bit more precise. --Mahākāśyapa (talk) 19:29, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Celebrities?

User:TylerDurden8823 about this diff - I just reviewed this page and its archive and I don't see anywhere that this "was requested by the Wikipedia community"; having this section runs against MEDMOS, actually. None of these people are described as having influenced the history of the condition. Where did the community request this? Jytdog (talk) 06:45, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jyt, this was discussed at length during the FA review. Many people voiced that the article felt "overmedicalized" and wanted more discussion about acne in society. With that said, I'm not attached to the content so if the community wants it out, I have no issue with that. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 17:41, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for replying. That content is all about advertising for one drug, and the Forbes piece (while by a staff member so OK) is really about the company's marketing strategy to get people to think about the drug as an ongoing treatment regimen not a spot treatment, using celebrities saying that is how they use it. If we are going to have content from that source it should be up on that level; as it stands it basically furthers the companies marketing. So I am going to remove it again... hope that is ok with you and everybody. Jytdog (talk) 17:50, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Sounds good! TylerDurden8823 (talk) 18:10, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

As a condition that affects 80% of people at some point in their life, we should not list people with the condition unless they have had a major effect on the condition. Ie like Michael Jay Fox and Parkinson's. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:25, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Nutrition

Readers of the Nutrition section might need more clarifications on how to weigh the evidence. It is already great that differentiations such as observational evidence and randomized trials are mentioned. I would like to add more guidance. Findings since 2015 might be integrated:

Fiedler (2017) 
 Link https://ww.ingentaconnect.com/contentone/mjl/adv/2017/00000097/00000001/art00003

Juhl et al (2018)  
Link https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/10/8/1049/htm

Vaughn and Sivamani (2015)

 Link https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/acm.2014.0261?casa_token=IhoVMwq9qtwAAAAA:200D6P3VmjWC3GxAptBGN_3ygteRkjy4a1WEpYtg9UOzhNvouHGrPZxWUApqcv035eGQ0THpLOww

Additionally there is Logan's "The Clear Skin Diet" with round-about 200 sources relating to the topic. Source 2: Link https://ww.amazon.com/Clear-Skin-Diet-Alan-Logan/dp/1581825749 Logan gives a non-academic summary of acne research up until 2007. The book as a source is likely not to wikipedia standards, as BallenaBlanca points but the sources they use may be.

Hypochonda (talk) 20:06, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

It is important that you read and apply these Wikipedia policies WP:MEDRS. The first is a MEDRS source, the other is not.

Best regards. --BallenaBlanca 🐳 ♂ (Talk) 21:05, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

References

Hypochonda (talk) 08:29, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Please, do not edit your messages after they have been answered. You have altered the meaning of my response. When I answered you, there were only two references.

What you must do is create a new message following the last one.

Please, see WP:TALK.

But do not worry, it's normal to make mistakes at the beginning!

Best regards. --BallenaBlanca 🐳 ♂ (Talk) 15:03, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Sources

Year	Name	Summary	Evaluation
2018	Juhl et al.	coming soon	coming soon
2017	Fiedler et al.	coming soon	coming soon
2016	Kucharska	Literature Review ?	Recommends patients to keep food diaries and exclude foods that exacerbate acne

Milk

Year	Name	Summary	Assessment/comments
2018	Juhl et al.	14 studies, n=78529 ' 'In conclusion, any dairy, such as milk, yogurt, and cheese, was associated with an increased OR (pooled random effects odds ratio) for acne in individuals aged 7–30 years. However, results should be interpreted with caution due to heterogeneity and bias across studies.' '	coming soon
2015	Vaughn & Simavani	Results: A total of 312 articles were found and a total of 4 studies met inclusion criteria. Three studies evaluated the effects of ingestion, while one evaluated the effects of topical application. All studies noted improvement with the use of fermented dairy. Conclusions: Overall, there is early and limited evidence that fermented dairy products, used both topically and orally, may provide benefits for skin health. However, existing studies are limited and further studies will be important to better assess efficacy and the mechanisms involved. || coming soon
2014	Grossi et al.	Conclusion: Our analyses confirm the link between several dietetic items and acne. When providing care, dermatologists should also be aware of the complex interconnection between dietetic factors and acne.	can someone who knows what semantic connectivity map approach is comment ?

Hypochonda (talk) 08:18, 18 December 2018 (UTC)Hypochonda please note that this is a work in progress and that I do not have a medical background. Misrepresentation will inevitably occur.

If I want to "clean up" this section, am I allowed to delete my own content and replace it ? --Hypochonda (talk) 10:02, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Glycemic Index

References

Acne in puberty due to testosterone?

@Doc James: with regards to this edit, the source doesn't support that statement. I changed the statement in this edit to reflect the source text, which says:

Acne is a follicular disease, the principal abnormality of which is impaction and distention of the pilosebaceous unit. The cause of the hyperproliferation of keratinocytes

and the abnormalities of differentiation and desquamation are unknown. It is likely that hyperresponsiveness to the stimulation of sebocytes and follicular keratinocytes by androgens leads to the hyperplasia of the sebaceous glands and the seborrhea that characterize acne.

— James, WD (April 2005). "Acne". New England Journal of Medicine (Review). 352 (14): 1463–72. doi:10.1056/NEJMcp033487. PMID 15814882.

The previous statement seems reasonable if it would've been sourced, but it needs accurate sourcing if we are to keep it.

--Treetear (talk) 16:34, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

It supports the involvement of androgens. Have adjusted a bit to make it clear we are talking about the underlying mechanism. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:46, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Perfect, agree with your adjustment. Thank you Doc James and Merry Christmas! --Treetear (talk) 15:26, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Missing info

There is no mention whatsoever of the rare treatment of lancing and the prevalent practise of popping, including no discussion on the impact to scarring. 2001:56A:711D:4500:9039:C1FF:11E5:C9EE (talk) 18:28, 9 September 2022 (UTC)