User talk:FMSky

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It was a widely publicized incident. However, the article is about the album, not the personnel drama surrounding the band. An overly-detailed rundown of the incident is WP:UNDUE. What is relevant to the album's production is here: Incident happened. Band dismissed Ellefson. Excessive details belong on the band's page and/or that of David Ellefson. L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:20, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

The incident had an effect on the production of the album so it is more than notable. I dont agree with your deletion at all and per WP:BRD you should bring up the topic on the album's talk page and discuss it there instead of simply reverting again. --FMSky (talk) 00:26, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Take a look at any of the other album articles. There is not a laser-focus on peripheral issues. You are entitled to disagree. I will remind you that you re-added content that I had previously copy-edited earlier in the week, so I believe the burden lies on you to not revert and seem consensus.~~ L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:31, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Yeah no, you bascially blanked the entire section that had been there for months and were reverted twice for it, therefore you should make your case on the album's talk page --FMSky (talk) 00:33, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Again, it needn't have been there in the first place, as the article is titled "The Sick, the Dying... and the Dead!" not "David Ellefson's sexual misconduct incident and dismissal from Megadeth. The relevant bit is there. Good articles don't need the grittiest details. Broadly speaking, Mustaine's cancer diagnosis had a similar (though slightly less because it happened earlier) effect, and it is hardly mentioned.~~ L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:37, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Additionally, WP:BRD, as you cite it, is nothing more than a license for disruptive editing that puts the burden of proof on people trying to improve articles. Been there, done that, so you'll pardon my skepticism.~~ L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

maybe WP:EDITWAR then? --FMSky (talk) 00:35, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

I will remind you, an edit war takes TWO people.

The focus on Ellefson's sexual improprieties is disruptive to the rest of the article. An excessive amount of detail does nothing but clutter and decentralize, what is supposed to be, the focus of the article. I will contest this as necessary, as I see your insistence on it's inclusion as disruptive to the goal of a tidty, focused article, similar in nature to the others on the band's studio albums. L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:40, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

While I expect this to be fruitless, would you be open to a compromise? Frankly, I have no interest in it, but I also won't really want to be drawn into a long term back-and-forth on this, and FWIW, I will seek moderator input on this, if needed. L1A1 FAL (talk) 00:47, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

sure, what do you have in mind. maybe integrate the section in 'background and production' or something while keeping most of the details? but i dont agree with wiping its content completely --FMSky (talk) 00:56, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Firstly, I'll leave the intro alone.

Secondly, amending the "Background" section with a subsection, and removing the Ellefson thing from the main, but also trimming the detail slightly in the "Ellefson" subsection, as I still feel that it lends a bit too much weight. Specifically removing polygraph, because those don't even actually prove anything.

Something broadly like this. about 2/3 or so of the detail in the previous

== Background and production ==

The Sick, the Dying... and the Dead! took more than two years...

... The album was later delayed further to a September 2022 release.

===Dismissal of Ellefson===

On May 10, 2021, sexually explicit videos of David Ellefson were posted on Twitter. The videos were reportedly recorded by a fan that Ellefson was in correspondence with. Initially accusations of child grooming were raised against Ellefson, although both parties denied this. The fan publicly claimed she was a consenting adult. Ellefson subsequently contacted the Scottsdale Police Department (SPD) to seek charges for revenge porn and presented the police with evidence related to the allegations. Following the incident, Mustaine announced Ellefson's departure from the band on May 24, 2021. His already-recorded bass parts were subsequently removed from the album and rerecorded by Steve DiGiorgio.

Something akin to this, perhaps (references removed for clarity, please feel free to edit the format on this to get it to display better on the talk page) L1A1 FAL (talk) 01:19, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes i would be perfectly fine with that, no objections at all. That way it still has the details but its integrated into the production section --FMSky (talk) 01:24, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Ok, if you have no objections, I will rework the page to this then. L1A1 FAL (talk) 22:16, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

I have a slightly tweaked version that I will use to amend the article, if you have no objections:

"

===Dismissal of Ellefson===

On May 10, 2021, sexually explicit videos of David Ellefson were posted on Twitter. The videos were reportedly recorded by a fan that Ellefson was in correspondence with. Initially accusations of child grooming were raised against Ellefson, although both parties denied this. The fan publicly claimed she was a consenting adult. Ellefson subsequently contacted the authorities to seek charges for revenge porn and presented the police with evidence related to the allegations.(citation) An official statement released the next day from Megadeth stated that the situation was being "watched closely".(citation) Following the incident, Mustaine announced Ellefson's departure from the band on May 24, 2021.(citation) His already-recorded bass parts were subsequently removed from the album and rerecorded by Steve DiGiorgio of Testament."

The amendments to my previous proposal are minor, and as follows: "Scottsdale Police Department (SPD)" to just "authorities", and noted that Steve DiGiorgio is in Testament. L1A1 FAL (talk) 22:31, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Yeah sure, thats fine -FMSky (talk) 22:32, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Done L1A1 FAL (talk) 22:42, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

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Amalia Freud

Why do you keep adding back the misogynistic description of Amalia as the wife of Jacob Freud? Either Jacob Freud's description in his article should be changed to 'husband of Amalia Freud' in return or her description shouldn't include him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Somuchknowledge (talk • contribs) 23:41, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

because that's what shes known for, and how tf is that misogynistic? --FMSky (talk) 23:43, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

How is she known as his wife more than he is known as her husband? It looks like both of them are really known just because they were parents of Sigmund. Somuchknowledge (talk) 23:48, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

she's also known as the wife so why omit that info? --FMSky (talk) 23:51, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

i put it at the end of the paragraph now FMSky (talk) 23:55, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

That looks better now --Somuchknowledge (talk) 23:58, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

You ignored my question + you're saying that with no basis/sources --Somuchknowledge (talk) 23:57, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

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I don't make mistakes and please don't delete it

Hello, I'm Glenda and I wanted to tell you not to delete Olanick's middle name, I discovered that she had a middle name, you just think that I only make mistakes, well, I really don't make mistakes, I just edit it and put it so that it is not missing nothing, just count on me, let me know if I made any mistakes and I don't need to delete the other edits I made to the victim's information, thanks and have a better day 138.121.114.154 (talk) 18:56, 14 September 2022 (UTC)