User talk:Ferret

SPIs and Harry Potter

Thanks for your help with the two SPIs. Did you watch the Harry Potter film series? (Yeah, I know, this comes out of nowhere.)--Bbb23 (talk) 00:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Bbb23 I have, though mostly the earlier ones have stuck with me. -- ferret (talk) 00:46, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Do you remember Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire where the fake Professor Moody turns Malfoy into a ferret? Was that one of yours? :p --Bbb23 (talk) 00:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@Bbb23 "What are you doing?" "Teaching." -- ferret (talk) 00:56, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

"Moody, we never use transfiguration as a punishment. Surely Professor Dumbledore told you that." "He might've mentioned it." Honestly, for an evil death eater, the fake Moody was quite sympathetic, although that tongue mannerism when he got low on polyjuice potion was a bit much.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:44, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Possible undisclosed paid editing/sockpuppet

I noticed that Royal Match had been PRODded for being spammy. The creator User:LittleNirvana had flatly denied any sort of paid editing, but the article lacks sources and seems like an advertisement. Dream Games, the developers, had been sent to deletion review by User:H5r2n, who is a WP:SPI. Weirdly LittleNirvana also participated in the review endorsing the deletion, but created the Royal Match page a couple days later. Uploading images with permission from the developer no less, which suggests that they are in fact employed by Dream Games also. It seems they may be using multiple accounts to avoid looking too much like advertising. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

@Zxcvbnm No apparent technical relationship, different continents. Sorry20 was also involved in Dream Games, if you want to pursue from a pure UPE angle. I'd agree there's potential UPE here, just no CU relationship between this set of users. -- ferret (talk) 15:18, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Well at the very least I asked for more information on their page because it could be a case of just a misunderstanding. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:24, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Kiwifarms URL

I have started a discussion on the VDARE and Right Stuff blog talks saying I think the url should be excised. Since that's relevant to the current Kiwifarms discussion and were mentioned would it be okay if I left a message on the Kiwi Farms discussion saying I started those ones and that people can chip in? Don't think it'd be canvassing since I wouldn't tell people to take a stance but idk cos it was already mentioned. Not tryna canvas though. Also idk if it's self-promo Stephanie921 (talk) 21:07, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 Probably the better choice than talk page mentions or pings would be to simply leave a brief note in the Kiwi Farms discussion linking to the others. This is fine as it's been mentioned in those discussion, IMO. -- ferret (talk) 21:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

I think u misunderstood me - I was gonna leave a msg on the Kiwifarms discussion Stephanie921 (talk) 21:19, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 Then I was agreeing. -- ferret (talk) 21:22, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Oh okay awesome, I just did it :) Thank you massively for ur help, you're very kind! Stephanie921 (talk) 21:26, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Did I do it right Stephanie921 (talk) 22:08, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes that's fine in my view -- ferret (talk) 22:09, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Luvly jubbly, ty! Stephanie921 (talk) 22:47, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

on Topic of the Nexus Mods revert

So why did you revert most of the edits on the nexus mod page including it's citation & such rather than simply editing it? 24.101.82.80 (talk) 04:22, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Simple: As I said, most of it's unnecessary or even outright wrong. The edit as a whole was not an improvement to the page. -- ferret (talk) 13:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

So which parts are wrong we only have alleged for what nexus mods said,among other things such as the basics of what the mod did was already baked into the game

Otherwise why use the secondary citations and not a primary one (Which I used to make this) 24.101.82.80 (talk) 23:27, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Also if you like,we could talk on discord 24.101.82.80 (talk) 23:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia prefers secondary sources. We only use primary sources for the most basic facts that don't require any interpretation. We also don't need excessive quotes, as quotes themselves should be limited for copyright reasons. -- ferret (talk) 23:40, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

I have never heard of a quote being copyrighted to start with,but I can understand to a degree of excessive quotes,but why secondary sources over primary? 24.101.82.80 (talk) 03:42, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

WP:RS is the relevant guideline, as well as WP:PRIMARY which is policy. -- ferret (talk) 03:44, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Query

Hello,

I have a question I was wondering if I could ask u as an administrator:

TeeVeeed was banned from editing under the Kiwi Farms topic. Since Tee's recent vio of their ban was logged under gender and sex in the Arbitration Committee records here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109061667 - would this msg they sent on Talk:The Right Stuff (blog): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109039416 be another topic ban vio since The Right Stuff is similar to the Kiwi Farms site? Stephanie921 (talk) 20:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 No. The topic ban was explicitly covering Kiwi Farms, not "and other similar sites". -- ferret (talk) 21:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay ty. I was asking since u logged it under gender and sex so I thought it might this fall under that Stephanie921 (talk) 21:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Gender and Sex is the basis of the sanction, but the specific sanction put into place was a TBAN covering Kiwi Farms. -- ferret (talk) 21:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay, ty. And I'm sorry for upsetting you Stephanie921 (talk)

Urgent

Please look at this immediately and delete the revision if you wish. TW: Suicide Stephanie921 (talk) 02:03, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109117004 Stephanie921 (talk) 02:04, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 Already handled. As information, I watchlist every user I warn or block for a period of time. -- ferret (talk) 02:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Awesome, ty for telling me. Btw, I noticed on the deletion log u said my rev was "non-contentious housekeeping". What does that mean Stephanie921 (talk) 02:21, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Also I wasn't gravedancing, I was being genuine since SWinxy was still replying to Edaiko even though the conversation was over. I was trying to end it Stephanie921 (talk) 02:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

@Stephanie921 Re: REVDEL. I chose to use the "non-contentious housekeeping" label because I felt there was a valid reason to hide your edit summary, but I did not want your edit to be labelled as disruptive or vulgar. Re: Gravedancing, if you simply informed of the block it would be different, but you elaborated from there about their actions or motivations. It's very easy to get caught up in these types of debates and conflicts, especially if you have any sense of feeling like there was a "win", but it's best not to talk about them after they're blocked. Let it lie. He wasn't going to reply to SWinxy, so that would have been the end of it. -- ferret (talk) 02:26, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I don't get ur reasoning. I elaborated on their reasoning but not in a way where I was celebrating them being defeated, I was just saying they'd been blocked. I thought saying they'd been blocked with no context would be confusing. I wasn't writing it to say I'd won, and I thought this was clear by me saying to move on rather than encouraging celebration. I don't understand how that's not simply informing of the block and I especially don't understand how that's gravedancing. I'm not upset at you I'm just sincerely confused. I was trying to say 'let it lie' with 'we should move on'

And thank you for explaining the reason for that label, I appreciate you not equating my rev with Edaiko's Stephanie921 (talk) 02:32, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I would like u to revert your edit please with the summary acknowledging you misunderstood me, as I was not gravedancing. No need to apologise, but I don't want other people to think I was gravedancing when I wasn't Stephanie921 (talk) 02:53, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

No. Regardless of your intent, I still feel it comes across that way and is an unnecessary comment about the editor in question. It's also the second time I've mentioned gravedancing to you this week. Please stop making such comments. -- ferret (talk) 03:05, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

I wasn't gravedancing just now, so I only did it once and am not repeatedly making comments like that. You have made me feel worse even though u didn't intend to and now I'd like an apology because I'm incredibly upset Stephanie921 (talk) 03:18, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Re: Special:Diff/1109127642. You aren't being punished. You haven't even been warned. You've been given some advice. Where you go from there is up to you. -- ferret (talk) 03:48, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Suspicious IP user

User talk:2603:8081:506:B6B3:10A0:E452:5DB5:49D6 seems to have immediately started doing things like messing with categories, recreating deleted pages and submitting drafts as soon as they went on to Wikipedia, and doing a crazy amount of edits in a couple days for a "new" user, maybe you could investigate for possible evasion of some kind. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:47, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Wooo. So, @NinjaRobotPirate: blocked this range for an entire year and it just expired, and they immediately renewed their efforts. I've reblocked. -- ferret (talk) 15:18, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep

Hello ferret!

I was wondering if Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep can be classified as an open-world game based on this source:

"The problem with bringing such an open world series as Kingdom Hearts to the PSP is that you’re restricted in what you can achieve with the hardware." - Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Review - PlayStation Universe (psu.com)

Thank you!

P.S. This is not for editing purposes, just my own personal purposes. NickWX28 (talk) 17:14, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

1) PSU takes community submissions, making them a WP:USERG source.

2) If you aren't asking in order to edit Wikipedia, please don't ask. I cannot and am not interested in helping with personal research or fan wiki editing.

3) If you continue to discussion open world gaming, I'll go ahead and indef block you. I do not understand how else I can stress that you should consider yourself banned from this topic, due to your numerous socking and unsourced editing disruption around it. -- ferret (talk) 17:54, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I mean you cannot ban me from asking questions about the topic that literally is my gaming preference. If its not: Kingdom Hearts, Pokemon, Persona, or open-world, I want zero to do with it. The problem is it is very hard to find a place to ask whether a game is or isn’t in a reliable way because most people don’t care about reviews and such, they just go by personal opinion which is not what I am looking for. I am looking for someone to tell me whether a game is or isn’t based on

reviews and official information, not personal opinion. NickWX28 (talk) 19:18, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I actually can block you for this, especially with your history of disruption. Read WP:NOTHERE, WP:NOTFORUM. I'm not a helpdesk, nor are other editors, for you to query about video game genres. Leave the topic of open world gaming alone, don't edit about it, don't talk page about it. If that means you don't want to use this site, then don't. -- ferret (talk) 19:41, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Thats what i am asking: What is the BEST site to use to ask information about a topic without personal opinion involved? NickWX28 (talk) 19:58, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I've no idea. Quora? -- ferret (talk) 20:03, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) If you're question isnt related to editing Wikipedia, then there is no venue for it on Wikipedia. That includes your current question. Sergecross73 msg me 20:05, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Then should I create a talk page discussion about the image?

Asking because getting blocked is bad, lol. In all seriousness, I do think that said image is misplaced, so should I create a talk page discussion about it? 51.188.25.140 (talk) 18:07, 16 September 2022 (UTC) AdvancedReturn to new topicReturn to new topic 151.188.25.140 (talk) 18:08, 16 September 2022 (UTC)