User talk:Cakelot1

Peter Obi

Good work. I have requested increased page protection. This looks like a political meat puppet campaign, though I would not rule socks out 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:12, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I think it might be more that a twitter account with 46k followers posted about it [1] Cakelot1 (talk) 22:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Now that would do it 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

I have opened Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joseph Isama‎ to try to determine meat/sock 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Midlands

In terms of backing up the claim that the name Mercia is synonymous with the Midlands, isn't West Mercia Police and the Mercian Regiment in the British army clearly proof that it is officially used? Even on the Mercia (disambiguation) page it states "It is sometimes used as a poetic name for the Midlands." 82.33.87.37 (talk) 10:55, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

82.33.87.37, As I eluded to in the talk page summary the use of old kingdom names is a thing that happens in other regions too. For example, Northumbria is used as the name name that in modern time is used by institutions in the North East: Northumbria Police, Northumbria University, Northumbria Healthcare NHS Foundation Trust, ect. Wessex in the south even more so Wessex Archaeology, Wessex (European Parliament constituency), Wessex Trains, Royal Wessex Yeomanry, ect. Neither the article for the North-east or Southern England claim it as an alternate name. We do have and article for the modern use of the name Northumbria (Northumbria (modern)), but these historical kingdoms and identities are too nebulous to map onto modern territories.

In terms of it being a poetic name, I would point to Cambria, a poetic name for Wales, not being included as an alternate name, Albion's not called an alternate name in the article for England, Hibernia not called an alternate name in our article for Ireland, and so on.

I think, if we'd want it to stick, we'd need some sources showing that the modern concept of the midlands is regularly, in common speech, referred to by some group, as Mercia. Cakelot1 (talk) 11:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Lehrer songs

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@David Eppstein as far as I know the songs are sourced from [website] which has the following declaration:

::I, Tom Lehrer, and the Tom Lehrer Trust 2000, hereby grant the following permission:

All the lyrics on this website, whether published or unpublished, copyrighted or uncopyrighted, may be downloaded and used in any manner whatsoever, without requiring any further permission from me or any payment to me or to anyone else.

Some lyrics written by me to copyrighted music by others are included herein, but of course such music may not be used without permission of the copyright owners. (The translated songs may be found in their original languages on YouTube.)

The music of all the songs on this website that were written by me may also be downloaded and used as described above.

In other words, all the lyrics herein and all the music herein that was written by me should be treated as though they were in the public domain.

In particular, permission is hereby granted to anyone to set any of these lyrics to their own music and publish or perform their versions or parodies or distortions of these lyrics without fear of legal action.

(There is no legal way to unilaterally transfer a song into the public domain, so this disclaimer is intended as an end run around the copyright laws.)

If you think that these songs aren't covered by this then they aught to be immediately removed from commons (see c:Category:The Remains of Tom Lehrer). Cakelot1 (talk) 00:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Also there's also a file of a similar ilk in Tom Lehrer#Recordings that you should also remove if you think that all of these recordings aren't covered by the aforementioned PD declaration. Cakelot1 (talk) 00:16, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Consensus on ethnic slur

I would be happy to start a discussion on the List_of_ethnic_slurs_and_epithets_by_ethnicity talk page to find a consensus on gusano's inclusion. I pointed to User:Cullen328's talk page, however, to show my reasoning for removing it based on the sources that were provided to argue for its inclusion. In other words, the editor who supplied the four Jstor articles as sources for the claim that gusano is an ethnic slur didn't read them, because none of them makes that argument. Planetjanet (talk) 09:24, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I recommend you open a talk page section. It's always best to do these thing where many people can respond. Cakelot1 (talk) 09:27, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I have removed those sources as they don't seem to support the content. I would however still encourage this discussed as it is a controversial topic and a consensus would probably be needed to remove it. Cakelot1 (talk) 09:43, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi Cakelot1 seems like the user above have made some statements in bad faith, taking out small sections of the text out of context to support their own arguments. I have started a new section in List_of_ethnic_slurs_and_epithets_by_ethnicity talk page discussing in detail two of the citations by Jorge Duany with quotes in their larger context. I have also presented the larger argument each of the articles presents specifically in relation to the use of class and racial identity in relation to the slur "gusano".

As you were the one to remove the citations please let me know what you think of my presentation of these references and weather they are applicable to this context. Also it was not four JSTOR articles, but two JSTOR articles, one OpenEdition Journal, and one from the Berkley Law Journal. Thank you. GumRumGum (talk) 14:25, 24 September 2022 (UTC)