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September 22

Editing Photos

Could someone explain how I edit a photo to remove an incorrect photo and replace it with the correct photo please? Brando1882 (talk) 00:53, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Brando1882, you just replace the file URL. See WP:EIS. Sungodtemple (talk) 01:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Brando1882 (talk) 01:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I assume this relates to your recent edit of the Texas Jack Vermillion Article? If so, we really need to determine for sure that we've got the right 'Jack' before worrying about photos. There seems to have been prior discussion of this question on the talk page, but sadly it got nowhere. It might be worth asking around to see if anyone has more knowledge on the topic area - Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities would possibly be the place to start, since Wikipedia:WikiProject United States History seems to be rather inactive. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:14, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for wanting the information to be accurate. I have the correct details, as I wrote biographies of both men, John Oberland Vermillion and John Wilson Vermillion. I personally visited and interviewed both families. I obtained the correct photos from the correct family. In 2010 I wrote the biography of John Wilson Vermillion and it was awarded the Wild West History Association's award for excellence. It is full of primary source material that proves beyond all doubt that John Wilson Vermillion never set foot in Arizona in his entire life and was NOT Texas Jack. In 2012 I published the full biography of both men in the book, "Wyatt Earp's Vendetta Posse Rider - The Story of Texas Jack Vermillion. It is available for purchase at tombstonevendetta.com I don't think there is another researcher alive who knows more about these men, and this has been acknowledged by other well known authors such as Gary Roberts and Casey Tefertiller and John Boesenecker. The information is fully verified. Brando1882 (talk) 01:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

In which case there are a couple of issues that need addressing. Firstly, per theWikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines, you should probably make a statement on your talk page stating that you are the author of the work. And secondly, we need to address whether your book (which appears to be self-published?) meets the Wikipedia:Reliable sources guidelines, which really needs to be demonstrated through independent published sources - i.e. evidence that you are recognised expert in the field, or that the work itself has been reviewed and/or cited in independent reliable sources. We can't just take peoples' word that they have the necessary expertise. This may be rather discouraging for someone who has put a great deal of effort into research on an esoteric subject, and accordingly, I'd recommend not getting your hopes up too much about the changes you have made to the article sticking - at least, not without independent corroborative evidence from further published sources to back it up. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I never get my hopes up. I only want the information to be accurate and to be educational. The Vermillion families deserve nothing but the truth and nothing less. The Wild West History Association (WWHA) is the premier western history association in the USA. They do not give out awards lightly. Brando1882 (talk) 01:56, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi Brando1882. I've reverted the changes you made so that they can initaite a discussion on the article's talk page. When making a major change such a this, it's often better to WP:CAUTIOUS than WP:BOLD and seek a WP:CONSENSUS on the relevant article's talk page instead. The changes you made are still there in the page's history and others will be able to see them in order to assess whether they meet relevant Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I do understand your desire to get things right and your concerns about the Vermillion families, but Wikipedia article content really should only be based on what can be reliably sourced and not what we may know to be true. Moreover, Wikipedia articles shouldn't be used as a means for setting the record straight or righting some great wrong. I've posted some notifications about this on the talk pages of Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history and Wikipedia:WikiProject American Old West to let the members of those WikIProjects know that there may be potential problems with the Texas Jack Vermillion article. Your more than welcome to start about a discussion about the changes you think should be made on the article's talk page and explain why you think the changes are needed. As AndyTheGrump posted above, your expertise on the subject is certainly welcome, but it doesn't give you any special type of editorial control over the article's content; in other words, you will still need to establish that the changes you feel are needed are in accordance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Some Wikipedia things that you might want to take a look at are WP:CITESELF, WP:SPS and WP:EXPERT; those sections contain some general information that you might found helpful. Please don't get discourage by being reverted. Wikipedia sometimes can seem to move slowly as it tries to make sure the content in its articles is correct. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

If this was not so sad, it would be funny. Tom Clavin recently published the wrong information about Texas Jack in his Tombstone book, by relying on the incorrect Wikipedia data on Texas Jack. You are now telling me that the guy who actually did the research and wrote the book correcting all the mistakes cannot make changes to benefit history and bring relief to the Vermillion families. If I was trying to promote my book I would have done this 10 years ago when it was published. May I ask what your particular interest is in Texas Jack Vermillion? Brando1882 (talk) 02:36, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I just went to the "Talk" page and Jeff Smith has already brought this topic to the attention of all concerned and supported everything I had written. He did this several years ago. Read his comments please. Brando1882 (talk) 02:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

My particular interest is in Wikipedia, not Texas Jack Vermillion. Wikipedia articles are not considered reliable sources in and of themselves as explained in Wikipedia:General Disclaimer, but the sources cited to support the content contained in articles might be reliable. If there's incorrect information in the article, then it can and should be fixed; such a thing, however, should be done in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines as explained in Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute. I added a template {{Disputed}} to the top of the article's page, which in turn added the article to Category:Accuracy disputes. The changes you made to the article were completely unsupported by any citations to any reliable sources which is one of the five pillars of Wikipedia. Even if the changes are things you know to be true, Wikipedia policy still requires that they be verifiable. If I hadn't reverted them, another editor or even perhaps a WP:BOT would've eventually done so. The best thing for you to do would be to discuss the changes you want to make on the article's talk page and provide links to or information about reliable sources that support them. That is how matters like this are most often resolved on Wikipedia. My revert was not intended to be an affront to either you or the Vermillion families. Wikipedia has lots of policies and guidelines that can be hard to understand when you're just starting out, but all users are expected to edit in accordance with these policies and guidelines. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I have just added some of the full primary sources to the Talk page. Jeff Smith also has pointed out the error of this Wikipedia page years ago and nothing happened. I have now done the same. Brando1882 (talk) 03:40, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

baned

trying to fined out what i did to get my account banned 2600:6C5E:4C3F:29BC:F0A9:7620:84D6:5AD (talk) 02:12, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

That would depend on which account you're referring to — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 02:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

The Talk Page of the account in question should have a section explaining the block and how to go about getting it lifted. See User talk:Qmfineart for an example from an earlier entry on the Help Desk recently. Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:54, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Reply

Hello, I received a lot of emails with plenty of questions from you. Yes, i do confirm that all pictures have been made by myself JonathanV123 (talk) 02:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@JonathanV123: you should reply to the user talk page of the user you're trying to talk to. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 10:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Those pictures of you certainly don't look like selfies. Any you realise that you have irrevocably licensed those picutres (including the song artwork) so that anybody in the world may reuse or alter them, for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they attribute them? Is that what you intended to do? ColinFine (talk) 13:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Error Message

I am receiving an error message in which I am having issues removing the error from the article. here is the error message

{{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help) Gwen chandler (talk) 02:19, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Gwen chandler. If you use dates of the form YYYY-MM-DD you must include the DD values. You can switch your date style to "month day, year" which lets you use dates like September 2020 without the day. StarryGrandma (talk) 02:48, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

How do you update that information I made an attempt but was unable to do so Gwen chandler (talk) 03:39, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@Gwen chandler You just need to use |date=September 2020 instead of what you have at present. Also, you don't need to give a URL for an citation with a DOI, since the software creates the link automaticallly. A bigger problem is that you are creating an article on your own User Page, which is the wrong place to do that. Please use the WP:AFC process instead, as explained at that link. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

To get |doi= to automatically link |title= in {{cite journal}} templates, you must set |doi-access=free.

{{cite journal |title=The effect of exposure to long working hours on ischaemic heart disease |journal=Environment International | doi=10.1016/j.envint.2020.105739}}

"The effect of exposure to long working hours on ischaemic heart disease". Environment International. doi:10.1016/j.envint.2020.105739.

{{cite journal |title=The effect of exposure to long working hours on ischaemic heart disease |journal=Environment International | doi=10.1016/j.envint.2020.105739 |doi-access=free}}

"The effect of exposure to long working hours on ischaemic heart disease". Environment International. doi:10.1016/j.envint.2020.105739.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:13, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Self Published Sources on BLP pages

Question. WP:SPS says that self-published sources are not allowed as sources of information about living persons, even if the source is a subject matter expert. Does that mean they should not be used on BLP pages at all? Or is it acceptable to use them for comments that aren't directly about the subject of the page?

The specific source at issue is the John McWhorter quote on the page for Philip Ewell. McWhorter does meet the bar as a subject matter expert, even if he isn't a music theorist. The quote in question is about McWhorter's reaction to Ewell's research, not about Ewell himself.

Does that matter? Is a citation to a self-published source acceptable on a BLP page if it is not used as a source about the topic of the article, or should even these be avoided? PianoDan (talk) 03:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

To put this in context please see the lengthy discussion in which consensus was built to include the quote at Talk:Philip Ewell#Inclusion of a criticism section and the later discussion at Talk:Philip Ewell#McWhorter Quote from Substack. There has been a concerted effort to remove all criticism from the article on Ewell’s research, and, rightfully in many cases, several of the criticisms were removed. However, this particular quote seemed cogent and community consensus was to keep it. My main concern is that removing the quote essentially leaves an unbalanced POV on Ewell’s research, which is controversial. I suggested that we perhaps should move the content to its own article at Music Theory's White Racial Frame (currently a redirect) where criticism could be more easily housed.4meter4 (talk) 06:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

This is not the place to relitigate discussions from the talk page, nor is it the right place to discuss a proposed split. I am looking for an answer to a single question on Wikipedia policy. PianoDan (talk) 14:21, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

You are unlikely to get "an answer to a single question on Wikipedia policy" here - people at the Help Desk tend to have an aversion to answering policy questions in the abstract, partly because people who ask such questions are often Wikilawyering. If you want to pursue this as a general question, I suggest WT:V or WP:VPP. --ColinFine (talk) 22:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

How to Add Page In Wikipedia

How to Add Page In Wikipedia Priyanshukailashpatle (talk) 10:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@Priyanshukailashpatle: read up on help:your first article. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 10:50, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

And especially read about notability. On a glance, few of the sources in Draft:Priyanshu Patle seem to meet the triple requirement of being reliable, indepenent and containing significant coverage of Pate. Also read why writing about yourself is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 13:02, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Submission

Dear Team,

I have created a page for my client, but unable to submit it for approval as I am not getting any option to do so, could you kindly help? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rakanya

Regards, Rakesh Rakanya (talk) 10:56, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

The page is at Advanced research technical council, looks like Onel5969 reviewed it a few minutes ago. Primefac (talk) 11:16, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

But in light of your admission above, I'm moving it to draft. Please read WP:UPE, and follow the process there. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:25, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

The mainspace article has been recreated (perhaps inadvertently). AndrewWTaylor (talk) 11:31, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Please note that as a paid editor you are required to make a formal declaration of your status: not just that you are editing for clients, but identifying who those clients are. Please also note that Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 13:10, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

New user accidentally granted adminship?

Hi. Not sure where to mention this. Our conversation here. User seems to have done nothing wrong. Am I mistaken? -- Doktor Züm (talk) 12:35, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

When 24GT created their user page, they added themselves to Category:Administrators. Possibly they were copying and pasting an admin's user page. I will remove them from the category. -- Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:41, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I beat you to it, and left a message on the talk page. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 12:49, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Doh! Thanks -- Doktor Züm (talk) 12:55, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

BoD - Books on Demand GmbH

• Courtesy link: de:Books on Demand (in German)

704+ citations refer to Books on Demand GmbH. If Lulu.com citations are not WP:RS, should BoD citations be removed? (P.S.: 3,141 filmreference) .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 16:45, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

• https://www.bod.com/
• https://www.bod.de/

.... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 17:01, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello, 0mtwb9gd5wx. While it is true that a large majority of books issued by self-publishing platforms are not reliable sources, there is a significant exception. Verifiability is a core content policy and it has a subsection that can be found at WP:SELFPUBLISH. That says Self- published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications. Accordingly, you need to evaluate the expertise of the author before concluding that a book is an unreliable source. Cullen328 (talk) 17:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

filmreference.com

3,141 filmreference.com citations need to be removed. .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 18:23, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@0mtwb9gd5wx: The site looks weak, but can you link to a discussion of the site's merits (or lack thereof) on the reliable sources noticeboard? And like IMDB, YouTube and Crunchbase, there are exceptions sometimes for including info. For example, it could source something routine and uncontroversial without showing notability. In any case, if you have consensus, you can start removing the sources yourself. If anyone disagrees, they'll let you know and probably revert you. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:34, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

The site is currently BLOCKED. You cannot ADD citations. These citations are prior to BLOCK. The site, copies iMdb and Wikipedia, to get advertisement revenue. .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 18:44, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

The site is on the MediaWiki:Spamblacklist since April 2019, it seems. See MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/April_2019#Advameg_sites_(city-data.com,_filmreference.com,_etc.). From a quick view the site appears to be generally unreliable. Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:03, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Resubmitting a page

Hi. Earlier this year I submitted a page for my organization and it was denied because I did not have enough citations. I've since gone back and reworked the page, following the suggestions of the user who denied my submission. I'm having trouble figuring out what the next step is - I've edited the page but cannot find a way to resubmit it for review. Nicolefuturenow (talk) 20:51, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@Nicolefuturenow, your edits removed the "Declined" notice which has the button to press for resubmission. I've restored it. Note the line which says, "Please do not remove reviewer comments or this notice until the submission is accepted." 199.208.172.35 (talk) 20:59, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Auto-archive of Talk page seems broken

Talk:Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel claims to be set up to auto-archive every six months. The only archives actually displayed, however, are those that were done manually. I looked at WP:AUTOARCHIVE, but the problem is not obvious to me. I'm concerned that I might lose data or break something if I just start playing with the source.

If the page has, in fact, been auto-archiving, it would be nice to have those archives available. If not, it would be great if it could be set up to start auto-archiving following the sequential format of the manual archives.

Is there any chance this is an easy fix? If not, advice?

Thanks— Patrick J. Welsh (talk) 22:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@PatrickJWelsh: Archiving is working as requested as far as I can see. It says:

|minthreadsleft = 7
|algo = old(183d)

minthreadstoarchive is not specified so the default value 2 is used per User:MiszaBot/config#Parameters explained. This all means: Only archive if there are at least 2 sections with no posts in 183 days, and at least 7 sections are left after archiving. If you think there is a time the bot should have archived and it didn't then please say when. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thanks for explaining. I was confused by the text "Auto-archiving period: 6 months," which did not sync up with the number of archives. Makes sense now!

Thanks for your help — Patrick J. Welsh (talk) 23:18, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Can I write about a Facebook group on Wikipedia ?

Can I write about a Facebook group on Wikipedia geared towards entertainment and nearly all inclusive topics under the sun ? 2400:ADCC:114:5200:D567:C5CD:56AC:D261 (talk) 23:22, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Short answer: No. Long answer: Most likely not. Unless they're proven to be notable based on Wikipedia's General notability guidelines then they won't get an article about them, and if one is created with the intent on promoting the Facebook group it will be deleted. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 23:55, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Actually, we do have a few articles about notable Facebook groups. One example is Secret London. Other articles can be found at Category: Facebook groups. I feel confident in saying that the vast majority of Facebook groups are not notable. Cullen328 (talk) 00:18, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

September 23

Hoax Death Report on Wikipedia

Scott Michaelson is alive and well. This is a hoax death report. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Michaelson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Michaelson 120.88.153.246 (talk) 01:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Hey. I've reverted the hoax now after verifying that there were no reports in the media of Scott's death. Thanks for letting us know. Sideswipe9th (talk) 01:46, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Is it possible to see a list of all the pages I've created?

I know I can check all of the contributions I've made, but I've been searching and can't seem to find how to check specifically the pages that were created by me ReidMoffat (talk) 03:03, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@ReidMoffat: At the bottom of Special:Contributions/ReidMoffat you should see links for "Edit count" and "Articles created". They should provide the information you want. Just the first link will do. Johnuniq (talk) 03:08, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

That's a bit misleading since it only includes (main namespace) articles and excludes redirects. Anyway, this functionality is now built in to Wikipedia. When looking at the contributions, click on "Search for contributions" at the top, then click on "Only show edits that are page creations".[1] -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 07:42, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks. Johnuniq (talk) 10:26, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@Zzuuzz You can also tell Xtools to include redirects and pages in all namespaces in its page count like so https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages/en.wikipedia.org/zzuuzz/all/all. If you go to the form https://xtools.wmflabs.org/pages there's a few other options for the page count, like namespace selection and date ranges. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 13:19, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Wrong information

this information is wrong and they are doing propaganda about Islam please remove this content because there is no present khalifa of Islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Masroor_Ahmad 39.42.232.118 (talk) 09:32, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Read the article. "His official title within the movement" is just that: his title within that organization. We are reporting a fact. Do not expect us not to report that fact. --Orange Mike | Talk 09:38, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Ahmadiyya Caliphate information. It's Google searches which can give the wrong impression that Wikipedia calls him the current caliph of Islam. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:25, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Assistance with linkspammer

I came across this IP address spamming link on Movie projector and a suspeciously similar IP address making similar edits on Filmmaking. I reverted on one article and manually edited it out in the other. I think they may have made other edits as well. Is there a way to find edits from very similar IPs? Squeezdakat (talk) 11:18, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

You can look at ranges of IP addresses using CIDR notation. For example, Special:Contributions/1.38.0.0/16 shows all contributions from IP addresses beginning with 1.38. In this case, the disruption seems to be coming from the range 1.38.158.83/22. Madeline (part of me) 12:12, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, that's very helpful. Fortunately this person seems to have stopped. Squeezdakat (talk) 12:20, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Relayball

I need help with the article I created it’s new and been played numerous locations — Preceding unsigned comment added by Relaybola (talk • contribs) 11:20, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

There may not be much we can say that hasn't already been discussed under a previous account. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zaner25/Archive. Thanks. Larry Hockett (Talk) 11:54, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Please see WP:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. ColinFine (talk) 13:43, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Updating our company logo

RE: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Group

Hi there, I've noticed our company logo as seen in the above URL is our old one, yet when I click on it and then click on the URL at the bottom of the page, it shows our new logo. How do I get the new logo to pull through onto the landing page in the URL I've noted above?

Many thanks in advance Rachael Hufton 82.5.202.207 (talk) 12:56, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

The logo in the infobox is Phoenix Group logo which is on Wikimedia Commons as a SVG file. From the Phoenix Group website, it looks like the logo has been updated. This means that someone may have to do a new SVG, or upload a newer version of the logo.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:26, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

File:Phoenix Group logo.svg says the source is https://www.thephoenixgroup.com/sites/phoenix-group/files/phoenix-group/phoenix-logo.svg. The new svg logo is there now and still satisfies the same license so I have uploaded it to Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:20, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, it's now fixed; you may have to clear your browser cache to see the updated logo.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:08, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

"Invoke navbox"

How come the second navbox here is not displayed? Hildeoc (talk) 15:13, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Category:Pages where post-expand include size is exceeded

Too many templates. Editors need to edit; remove redundancies, split the article, etc.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:21, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

I made a small template change [2] which fixes it right now but the article will soon hit the limit again. It currently uses 98.7% of the limit. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:10, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

The article is number 11 at Special:LongPages and sadly this war will probably be much longer. The timeline will eventually have to be split. Let's hope it doesn't end up like Category:Timelines of the Syrian civil war. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:20, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Getting the map pin on the map in infobox

Article: The Harrogate Club. I have added the coord to the infobox, and a map, but cannot yet get the location pin to appear on the map. Can you help with that? I am wondering whether I have converted the coord from Geograph wrongly. The original coord was WGS84: 53:59.4683N 1:32.1782W. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 18:12, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Update: The coord is now accurate; I have checked it on Google Street View, and it works on that site. However, there is still no pin on the map. Storye book (talk) 09:49, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Mistake

I mistakenly finalized a mistaken edit of the "References" section of my "William Everdell" Wikipedia page which eliminated everything in that section. Any way to get it back?WREverdell (talk) 18:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)WREverdell

Here's what disappeared: https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=William_Everdell&action=edit&section=3&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro WREverdell (talk) 18:28, 23 September 2022 (UTC)WREverdell

@WREverdell: I have used Wikipedia's undo functionality to restore the previous section contents. Please see WP:REFB for the citation format used in William Everdell. Using the preview ability might also be a good idea in general. Victor Schmidt (talk) 18:43, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

WREverdell, given that you have a conflict of interest with respect to yourself, 331dot states elsewhere on this page that 'you should make an edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, detailing changes you feel are needed. The article about you should be summarizing what independent reliable sources say about you, and not merely link to your work. Please see the autobiography policy for further guidance in editing about yourself.' --Quisqualis (talk) 21:33, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

DAB by capital letter

We have the page Local group, a DAB page, and Local Group, an article about an astronomy topic. The only difference in the title is "g" vs. "G". Is this a valid arrangement? Cambalachero (talk) 18:59, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

It's a valid option per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:02, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Babel

Hi there, I’ve been trying to set up babel in my user page but I dont know how it works

Can someone help please? DavidTDC3377 (talk) 19:16, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

The general help page is Wikipedia:Babel. Ruslik_Zero 20:29, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

September 24

Searching references

When using the search engine, does it also include the references? For example if I wanted to see how many articles have the string "wikipedia.org" somewhere in the references, would those articles be listed in the search? Thanks for the help. Ned n07b07 (talk) 01:03, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Sometimes such a thing can work, but in this case wikipedia.org is a WP:REDIRECTed page; so, searching for it directly will bring you to the article about Wikipedia. If you want to search the url "wikipedia.org" then you might have to tweak the syntax a bit (i.e. use a syntax trick) that will allow you to search for it as an url. Have you tried asking about this at WP:VPT? -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:41, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

This search finds 12 articles where:

<ref...>...wikipedia.org

Maybe that is a good search; maybe it can be improved.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 02:53, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

And it can. If I remove the extraneous space character, this search finds about 6100 articles.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 03:06, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

But that is too loose because it finds <ref.../>...wikipedia.org. So this search requires proper open and close <ref ...>...</ref> tags and finds about 900 articles.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 03:16, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

You can use insource:"search text" as part of your search string to force the search to look in the wikitext. Doing so with "wikipedia.org" turns up 60,890 articles, but not all of those are in references. One imperfect way to narrow it down is to search for "insource:"url=https://en.wikipedia.org"", which gives (mostly) results from Template:cite and its derivatives, mainly used in references. Most of these probably need to be fixed, as Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

my workpage/wikipedia

Hi, I have worked as a music producer and composer for many years. I would like to update what is written about me in wikipedia with links to productions and films etc. Is there a good guide on how to do this? thank you so much for your help! 217.213.134.192 (talk) 08:36, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

You should make an edit request(click for instructions) on the article talk page, detailing changes you feel are needed. The article about you should be summarizing what independent reliable sources say about you, and not merely link to your work. Please see the autobiography policy for further guidance in editing about yourself. 331dot (talk) 08:38, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

hi ip user! we heavily discourage editing articles you are connected to yourself. there are also many policies regarding this kind of situation in Conflict of interest, like that you have to disclose that you are the subject themself and thus have a CoI (and for this, it's best to have an account since IPs are prone to changing all the time, but it's not required required as long as it's always clear there's a disclosure). happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 08:42, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Additional information on Gilbert Jose

I do want to add to this page, my grandfather had 2 sons Geoffrey and Tony. Geoffrey has been omitted from the information, and I would like his name included please. With Thanks. Woodville 19 (talk) 12:51, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Woodville. If you have a reliable published source for the other son, then it is possible that he could be included. Since, as a relative, you have a conflict of interest, you should make an edit request on the article's talk page Talk:Gilbert Jose. (see that link for details of how). But please note that while a reliable published source is essential for information to be included, it is not necessarily enough: there is an editorial decision to be made, by uninvolved editors, on whether or not it is appropriate. Tony Jose is mentioned because he also met Wikipedia's criteria for WP:notability, and there is an article about him, but if his brother did not meet those criteria, it is not obvious that he should be mentioned. ColinFine (talk) 19:38, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Actually, having looked at Tony Jose, I'm not convinced that he meets the criteria for notability. He certainly doesn't meet the special criteria in WP:NSPORT, and the existingarticle has no independent sources at all. I have tagged the article accordingly.

ColinFine (talk) 20:55, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

ABOUT SPELLING MISTAKE

Banaras Hindu University

THERE IS A SPELLING MISTAKE IN ARTICLE A WORD `MENTAL` HAS BEEN USED INSTEAD OF ` METAL` CRAFT. GENEROUSLY REQUEST TO CORRECT IT FOR NOT FACING FURTHER INCONVENIENCE SOULPALETTEBYJAS (talk) 16:20, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I couldn't find such a mistake at Banaras Hindu University, but I did find and fix one at Bharat Kala Bhavan. If you spot any errors like this in the future, I encourage you to be bold and try fixing them yourself. Otherwise, you might try posting about the error at the article's associated talk page (like Talk:Bharat Kala Bhavan). Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 16:26, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I have just corrected it, YES it was regarding bharat kala bhavan thankyou SOULPALETTEBYJAS (talk) 16:54, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

References

I can't seem to figure out or fix my reference errors message on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:List_of_Danger_Force_characters. Maybe I don't need it but then again I know it's better to be safe then sorry. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 16:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I've fixed it. If you're interested in how, use the edit history to check what I did. Maproom (talk) 16:58, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

two articles on the same topic

I just noticed while working on Wikidata that there are two articles on the same topic here in English Wikipedia. There is an article The House of Black (professional wrestling) and House of Black. Could someone here take care of the fact that the two articles are merged? --Gymnicus (talk) 20:43, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Given that the two articles consist of nothing of significance beyond misrepresenting performance art as 'sport', and fail to demonstrate that this 'House' has any significant independent notability, the number of articles should probably be reduced to zero. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:49, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

@AndyTheGrump: Because I am not familiar with the relevance criteria, I am happy to leave this decision to you. I don't care if there is only one article or no article because the stable is relevant to Wikidata. It's just unfavorable if there are two articles on the same topic, that's difficult to handle in Wikidata. --Gymnicus (talk) 20:59, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

The duplication has been sorted out now, by User:DuncanHill. I'll look into the notability issue further, when I get the chance. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:13, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

I will no longer be donating

This is no longer a politically neutral website and so I will no longer be donating. Super sad too, wikipedia started out as such an awesome project for all humanity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ironinthepath (talk • contribs) 23:35, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Ironinthepath Whether you donate or not is your decision, though we editors have nothing to do with the donation process, and donations or lack thereof do not impact content. If you see content that violates policy on neutral point of view, we'd like to know what it is. But neutral point of view does not mean whitewashed or providing a false balance. 331dot (talk) 23:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Also consider, Ironinthepath, that in any calendar month around 100,000 different editors make edits on Wikipedia, all with their own motives and all without anyone routinely vetting most of their edits. In such circumstances, some edits are bound to be sub-optimal in their neutrality. These can only be corrected if someone (a) notices and (b) either corrects them or asks someone else to do so. Have you done either regarding material you deem politically non-neutral?

None of Wikipedia's entirely voluntary editorial contributors (including yourself) are specifically tasked with anything, and certainly not with regularly scanning all articles looking for non-neutrality – this would be impossible given the available resources. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.205.227.236 (talk) 17:49, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

September 25

Need help using the "JustReplace" script by User:Sreejithk2000

Hello,

I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'll give it a shot anyway.

Has anyone here ever heard about and/or used this script that globally replaces images? I've been trying to use it for a while now but it keeps giving me an error. I've tried using the newer, updated script made by User:Perhelion but it also didn't seem to work. Probably because I don't know how to use them.

The pop-up error using Sreejithk2000's script reads as follows:

An error occurred while trying to do the requested action. A detailed description of the error is shown below:

Error while asking CommonsDelinker to replace Flag of Ichikikushikino Kagoshima.JPG with Flag of Ichikikushikino, Kagoshima.svg Reason: API request failed (abusefilter-warning): ⧼abusefilter-warning-delinker-filemover-page-syntax⧽ at Sun, 25 Sep 2022 01:07:54 GMT served by mw1362

User:SpinnerLaserzthe2nd has been helping me by globally replacing the images I upload on Wikimedia, but I want to do it on my own. Any help, guidance or advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you. EnviousBird (talk) 01:22, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Your deletion of the page I created

I protest against all your complaints and removing the page I created. This is pure discrimination. JonathanV123 (talk) 02:59, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi JonathanV123. The article Jayvé has been tagged for proposed deletion. You can halt this process by removing the tag from the top of the page, as it's intended for use in situations where deletion is uncontested. Before you remove the tag, I recommend spending some time looking for reliable, independent, secondary sources that could be used to prove Jayvé's notability. If you remove the deletion tag without such a demonstration, it's very likely the article will be taken to Articles for deletion where a discussion might lead to its deletion anyway. You can save a lot of time by either leaving the tag up or proving that Jayvé is notable. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 03:07, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

hi @JonathanV123 and welcome to the help desk! Reliable sources basically people who are reputable and completely unaffiliated with them talking about them, which you'll use to back up the claims you make in their article and especially their notability criteria. fulfilling both of them is essential in making sure an article stays, and the lack of them means anything may not have an article regardless of any other qualities they may have. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 03:12, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

@JonathanV123: You were given help on how to stop the article being deleted a few days ago. Have you done anything about that? Bazza (talk) 09:08, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Question About using OABot for open access citations/links

Hello,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I had question regarding using OABot to add freely accessible links to citations. Is there a guide to how it exactly works? When I do a preview of the links it suggests to add, it either says "allowed", "unknown", "restricted" or "forbidden" (I usually just add the ones that have all three criteria as "allowed"). The reason that I'm asking is because I don't want to mistakenly add something that constitutes as a copyright violation whenever I use this tool. Any explanation or guidance would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Losipov (talk) 05:58, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

@Losipov Bots are implemented as if they were User accounts. So you can look at the page User:OAbot to see how it works and if you wish can post a question on its Talk Page at User talk:OAbot. One of the humans who look after the bot will then reply there to answer your query. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:00, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

my username is NOT capitalized....sabastianblak

help me access my old acct, please? Sabastianblak (talk) 06:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

I believe that this is a technical limitation. All usernames, like page titles, are uppercase. – robertsky (talk) 07:29, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Noting that robertsky's username is actually Robertsky, as seen at User:Robertsky. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:14, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, on my user page the user name appears as Ianmacm, but when I sign in, it is with ianmacm (all lower case). This may lead to some confusion.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:47, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

hi @sabastianblak and welcome to the help desk! Sabastianblak and sabastianblak act as the same account due to the technical limitation above. you may edit your signature via Preferences > User Profile > Signature to display your username as lowercase. if you ever create a userpage, you can also use {{Lowercase title}} to make it display as lowercase. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 08:56, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Claim for creation of the term Generation Z

On the Wikipedia entry for Generation Z (Generation Z), it suggests that the term Generation Z was first used by demographer Cheryl Russell in 2009. This is incorrect as I wrote an article for Brand Strategy magazine in February 2007 in which I posed the question 'when would we meet Generation Z'. I have a PDF copy of the article as it doesn't exist online. I have tried to update Wikipedia but it's been rejected or, rather, changed back to the original entry. Please advice. Thank you. Crispin Reed CrispinGJReed (talk) 09:39, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello. You added the text in this edit on 2017-08-18, and it was removed by an IP editor in this edit on 2017-09-29, with the Edit summary "removing vague and unreferenced material". This is part of the normal give and take in Wikipedia (see WP:BRD), and your next step if you wish to pursue this should be opening a discussion on Talk:Generation Z. Given that you are wishing to cite your own work, you also had a conflict of interest in inserting that information (though the editor who removed it probably didn't know that) and so you should have discussed it on the talk page first anyway. ColinFine (talk) 11:15, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

I agree with the whole of ColinFine's comment above. Also, according to the article, Cheryl Russell allegedly coined the term iGen, not Generation Z. Yes, you need a citation from an authoritative source for any new fact that you add to an article; however it does not have to be online. I cannot yet find Brand Strategy magazine mentioned online, but if it is (or was) a published magazine, then you can cite the magazine's name, author's name, article title, date, and page number. Optionally, if you want your citation source to be online, then try to get your pdf uploaded to a reliable website (not a blog). Hope that helps. Storye book (talk) 11:36, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Donations

Hello,

Some time ago I started making regular donations to Wikipedia. Something I am glad to be doing, and continue to do. However, I regularly still get prompts to donate. So, I've created a Wiki log in, but I can't find a way to link my regular donations to my new account. Is there a way to do that, or Should I cancel my original donations and set up a new donation plan? TuryScrema (talk) 11:44, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi TuryScrema - we don't link donations to accounts, but provided you always use your account, the next time you receive a donations request, there should be a dismiss button, allowing you to block any further requests - Arjayay (talk) 12:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello, TuryScrema. There is (purposely) no way to link donations to an editing account: absolutely nothing in Wikipedia knows anything about who has made what donations. But what you can do is to go to Preferences and ask it to surpress the banner. (You can do this whether you actually donate or not). ColinFine (talk) 12:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Delete user profile

I set it up incorrectly and cannot change the user name ass so wish to delete the profile. Not obvious how I do that. Thanks Bill Wkbrannigan (talk) 12:43, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Accounts cannot be deleted for technical and legal reasons. It is possible to change a username (see CHU), but since you've made no other edits on this account, the easiest thing is just to abandon it and create a new one. If you choose, you can create a User page for this account saying what you have done, but there is no need to. ColinFine (talk) 12:54, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Please be aware that User:Wkbrannigan is not a "profile", and should not be regarded or treated as one. It is your user page, intended only for your activities in Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 15:36, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Account blocked

How can you help me to restore my account? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.81.1.56 (talk) 13:52, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Can you remind me the duration of this block please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.81.29.56 (talk) 13:57, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Please log in to your account to request unblock, all information should be there. 331dot (talk) 13:59, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

When will be the end of this block? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.81.53.56 (talk) 14:22, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Posting questions here is block evasion. Stop posting here. Log into your account. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Dr. Donna Singer Wikipedia Page

Hello -

I am wondering what the below means regarding this page Donna Singer

The below was added, but this page has been up for a long time:

This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles; try the Find link tool for suggestions. (August 2016)

This article contains wording that promotes the subject in a subjective manner without imparting real information. (June 2022)

This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. (June 2022)

How do I fix this? If nothing gets fixed will the page be deleted? ElizabethJamey (talk) 18:11, 25 September 2022 (UTC)