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::The chemical formula was added to this article on 15 September 2022 by [[User:Almeo]]. Perhaps this editor can give a source reference citation? [[User:GeoWriter|GeoWriter]] ([[User talk:GeoWriter|talk]]) 21:19, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
::The chemical formula was added to this article on 15 September 2022 by [[User:Almeo]]. Perhaps this editor can give a source reference citation? [[User:GeoWriter|GeoWriter]] ([[User talk:GeoWriter|talk]]) 21:19, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


:::This source in Chinese (referenced from the CN Wikipedia version of this article) gives the formula: [https://www.sohu.com/a/583616527_162758/?pvid=000115_3w_a sohu.com]. There is also a [https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/x9rnr5/changesitey_new_mineral_on_moon_discovered/ Reddit page] (not that I think it is a serious source, but oh well...) mentioning the formula. [[User:Almeo|Almeo]] ([[User talk:Almeo|talk]]) 13:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
:::This source in Chinese (referenced from the CN Wikipedia version of this article) gives the formula: [https://www.sohu.com/a/583616527_162758/?pvid=000115_3w_a sohu.com]. There is also a [https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/x9rnr5/changesitey_new_mineral_on_moon_discovered/ Reddit page] (not that I think it is a serious source, but oh well...) mentioning the formula. By the way the formula in CN Wikipedia was predating my edit. [[User:Almeo|Almeo]] ([[User talk:Almeo|talk]]) 13:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

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Can't verify if Changesite-(Y) was approved by the IMA

Changesite-(Y) does not appear on the latest September list of Approved Mineral Names released by the International Mineralogical Association's Commission on New Minerals, Nomenclature and Classification (IMA-CNMNC):

http://cnmnc.main.jp/

It's also not in the most recent CNMNC newsletter, where the names of new approved minerals are published:

https://ejm.copernicus.org/

So I am not able to verify that Changesite-(Y) was indeed approved by IMA-CNMNC.

Maybe I missed something, perhaps a peer review article showing it is indeed a new and valid mineral species was published in an obscure Chinese language journal or there's an article in press and China has jumped the gun in announcing its approval?

-Diamonddavej (talk) 03:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Formula dubious

I'm tempted to blank the formula that's been presented in the lede. 1/ It does not appear in any of the Chinese or English language announcements regarding the mineral, or in any publication of any kind that I can find. 2/ It's not a properly formatted formula. I'm not expecting to see ion charges within a stable mineral compound formula. 3/ It appears stoichiometrically dubious. Yttrium is almost always trivalent, and I'm not expecting it to replace sodium.

Anyone got any hints about where it came from?

Ordinary Person (talk) 13:38, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The following webpage is the original news release, there is no formula given. The unit cell structure of Changesite-(Y) is shown (software used is Vesta), might be possible to guess what elements are present. The SEM image shows Changesite-(Y) occurs as tiny inclusions within olivine, along with feldspar, cristobalite and baddeleyite. --Diamonddavej (talk) 16:06, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The chemical formula was added to this article on 15 September 2022 by User:Almeo. Perhaps this editor can give a source reference citation? GeoWriter (talk) 21:19, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This source in Chinese (referenced from the CN Wikipedia version of this article) gives the formula: sohu.com. There is also a Reddit page (not that I think it is a serious source, but oh well...) mentioning the formula. By the way the formula in CN Wikipedia was predating my edit. Almeo (talk) 13:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]