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I added this lead image to the infobox, but it was removed by {{ping|Lalisa Manobal}} without comment. How do others feel about including this or another lead image in the infobox? Note that there is precedent for doing so: in [[Hungarians]], for example. [[User:Ficaia|𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆]] ([[User talk:Ficaia|talk]]) 05:21, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
I added this lead image to the infobox, but it was removed by {{ping|Lalisa Manobal}} without comment. How do others feel about including this or another lead image in the infobox? Note that there is precedent for doing so: in [[Hungarians]], for example. [[User:Ficaia|𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆]] ([[User talk:Ficaia|talk]]) 05:21, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

:The image looks ok. I guess it's how even how most of Croat imagine the traditional Croats to look like. [[User:Governor Sheng|Governor Sheng]] ([[User talk:Governor Sheng|talk]]) 06:25, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Category:Slavic countries and territories

It is currently being proposed that Category:Slavic countries and territories be deleted. This article is related to that category. The relevant discussion is located at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 8#Countries and territories by language family. The discussion would benefit from input from editors with a knowledge of and interest in Croats. Krakkos (talk) 11:16, 10 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Croats and Serbs

Respected everyone, I am of the opinion that Croats and Serbs are natives of the Balkans and that there is good literature, references, notes and sources and that Serbs and Croats, except the southern Slavs were Illyrians, and also that Serbs are Vinci and Croats Vučedol. Considering a video entitled "Arrival of Serbs and Croats and the Siege of Constantinople in 626 - The Immigration of Slavs to the Balkans" by the author of the Serbian Battle, I think we are. I have said or will say the same on hr.wiki and en.wiki. Also, apart from being Slavs, Illyrians and Vučedolci (Serbs are Illyrian as well, but Vinci) we are also a Mediterranean race as we are together with Serbs a Dinaric race. With respect, Uspjeh je ključ života (talk) 22:14, 20 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your opinion is less than useless. We go by Reliable Sources. The Slavs arrived in the Balkans in the 6th century, later communalizing into their separate tribes - Serbs, Croats, etc. This is undisputed fact. 50.111.55.190 (talk) 13:14, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Joseph Broz Tito image should be removed

The Tito article says he is slovene-croat (but himself considers ethnic Yugoslav - or south slavic), so i recomend to put in the description that he is slovene-croat, or remove the image John L. Booth (talk) 21:51, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

seven year old tag unaddressed

Both the language used in legal texts and that used in Glagolitic literature gradually came under the influence of the vernacular, which considerably affected its phonological, morphological and lexical systems. From the 14th and the 15th centuries, both secular and religious songs at church festivals were composed in the vernacular.<-- statement tagged in 2015 - will the editor who added this please supply a reference? Moved to the TP in the meantime. 50.111.55.190 (talk) 18:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Lead image in infobox

Croats
Hrvati
Croatian couple in festive dress, c. 1913
Total population
c. 7–8 million[1]
Regions with significant populations
 Croatia
3,550,000 (2021)[2]
 Bosnia and Herzegovina
544,780 (2013)[3]
 United States414,714 (2012)[4]–1,200,000 (est.)[5]
 Germany500,000 (2021)[6][7]
 Chile380,000[8]
 Argentina250,000[9]
 Austria221,719 (2020)[10]
 Australia164,362 (2021)[11]
 Canada133,965 (2016)[12]
  Switzerland80,000 (2021)[13]
 Brazil70,000[9]
 Italy60,000[14]
 Serbia57,900 (2011)[15]
 Slovenia50,000[16]
 France40,000 (est.)[17]
 Sweden35,000 (est.)[18]
Other countries
(fewer than 30,000)
 New Zealand2,673–60,000 (2013 est.)[19][20]
 Hungary22,995 (2016)[21]
 Ireland20,000 - 100,000 (est.)[22]
 Netherlands10,000[23]
 South Africa8,000[24]
 United Kingdom6,992[25]
 Romania6,786[26]
 Montenegro6,021 (2020)[27]
 Peru6,000[9]
 Colombia5,800 (est.)[9][28]
 Denmark5,400[29]
 Norway5,272[30]
 Paraguay5,000[9][31]
 Ecuador4,000[32]
 Slovakia2,001[33][34]-2,600[35]
 Czech Republic2,490[36]
 Portugal499[37]
 Russia304[38]
Europec. 5,300,000
North Americac. 530,000–2,500,000[a]
South Americac. 470,000–650,000
Otherc. 140,000–250,000
Languages
Croatian
Religion
Majority:
Roman Catholicism[39]
Related ethnic groups
Other South Slavs[40]
a References:[41][42][43][44][45][46][47]

I added this lead image to the infobox, but it was removed by @Lalisa Manobal: without comment. How do others feel about including this or another lead image in the infobox? Note that there is precedent for doing so: in Hungarians, for example. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 05:21, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The image looks ok. I guess it's how even how most of Croat imagine the traditional Croats to look like. Governor Sheng (talk) 06:25, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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  28. ^ "República de Croacia". Cancillería. 26 September 2013. Retrieved 20 February 2015.
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  30. ^ "Population by immigrant category and country background". Statistics Norway. 1 January 2015. Retrieved 18 March 2015.
  31. ^ "Hrvatsko iseljeništvo u Ekvadoru" (in Croatian). Archived from the original on 26 January 2019. Retrieved 18 March 2015.
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  39. ^ Marty, Martin E. (1997). Religion, Ethnicity, and Self-Identity: Nations in Turmoil. University Press of New England. ISBN 0-87451-815-6. [...] the three ethnoreligious groups that have played the roles of the protagonists in the bloody tragedy that has unfolded in the former Yugoslavia: the Christian Orthodox Serbs, the Roman Catholic Croats, and the Muslim Slavs of Bosnia.
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  41. ^ Farkas, Evelyn (2003). Fractured States and U.S. Foreign Policy. Iraq, Ethiopia, and Bosnia in the 1990s. Palgrave Macmillan US. p. 99.
  42. ^ Paquin, Jonathan (2010). A Stability-Seeking Power: US Foreign Policy and Secessionist Conflicts. McGill-Queen's University Press. p. 68.
  43. ^ Directory of Historical Organizations in the United States and Canada. American Association for State and Local History. 2002. p. 205.
  44. ^ Zanger, Mark (2001). The American Ethnic Cookbook for Students. Greenwood. p. 80.
  45. ^ Levinson, Ember, David, Melvin (1997). American immigrant cultures: builders of a nation. Macmillan. p. 191.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  46. ^ Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related Programs Appropriations for 1994: Testimony of members of Congress and other interested individuals and organizations. United States. Congress. House. Committee on Appropriations. Subcommittee on Foreign Operations, Export Financing, and Related Programs. 1993. p. 690.
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