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Why does a bot (occasionally humans too) change HTTP links to HTTPS links?

Some websites like The Wayback Machine don't have the secure S after the HTTP but still the bots and people change it to HTTPS anyway.

Most of the time it doesn't really matter, as the HTTPS links will redirect to the original HTTP url when you click on it.

However I've noticed some websites in the past which don't redirect to the original HTTP url, so it will look like the website which was originally added as a reference or an external link, is dead to people who have never visited that website before, therefore it could end up getting removed or replaced. Danstarr69 (talk) 07:12, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

@Danstarr69: Could you give some examples? If the websites do not support HTTPS, then it's most likely a bug and should be reported to the bot developer. Also, Wayback Machine does seem to support HTTPS. Darylgolden^(talk) Ping when replying 13:06, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Danstarr69: If both work then https is preferred by Help:Link#http: and https: and Wikipedia:External links#Specifying protocols. Bots and editors should only change to https if it works. Do you have an example where a change was made and it broke the link? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Darylgolden PrimeHunter I don't have any examples at the moment, as I'm constantly searching random websites for stuff mainly related to film and TV.

However HTTP urls, mainly seem to be on older websites which aren't being updated anymore, like old BBC Programme Pages, but could be the only source of the information you want to reference.

The question just came to mind when I noticed that the bot had changed a HTTP Wayback Machine url I added, to a HTTPS url.

And as I've found when archiving links myself on the Wayback Machine and Archive Today (which I do on a daily basis), the S makes a massive difference as to whether a link still works or not.

I used to add S to all the links I archived, but after trying to find something that had been deleted, which I thought I had archived, I realised it didn't work because I had added the S when I archived it, so now I just add them as they are, or archive them with both HTTP and HTTPS links.

If what PrimeHunter says about "Bots and editors should only change to https if it works" is true, then there shouldn't be a problem. Danstarr69 (talk) 14:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

If my account is banned

If my account is banned from editing can I unblock it and if yes how? Luffyking101 (talk) 05:29, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

@Luffyking101 Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse! You might want to read WP:BAN or WP:BLOCK as bans and blocks are referred to as different things on Wikipedia. Jolly1253 (talk) 07:04, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

You have had a draft Speedy deleted, but there is no warning on your account that your editing might lead to you being blocked, either for a specific time or indefinitely. Indef blocks can be appealed. David notMD (talk) 09:13, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi. You can always appeal the block or ban. Follow the rules on Wikipedia to ensure that you won't be blocked or banned.Cwater1 (talk) 20:10, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

BC/AD vs BCE/CE

I would be interested to know why the article titles on years, decades, centuries, and millennia use the BC/AD system of dates rather than BCE/CE. I've seen both conventions used in Wikipedia articles and am aware of the policy of MOS:ERA which says to use the one based on the context of the article as they are both correct. My question to you is why the article titles on years, decades, centuries, and millennia use the BC/AD rather than BCE/CE and who made the decision to use the titles? Interstellarity (talk) 12:39, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: Generally when someone starts an article that requires an era desgnation, the editor simply uses whatever is personally preferable. If the editor has a Christian background, then there is an automatic unintentional bias to use BC/AD. Even though I'm not religious myself, I had a tendency to do that before I started editing here. For an article topic that has nothing to do with Judeo-Christian religion, history, culture, architecture, literature, art, etc., then it's probably justified to change the era to the secular BCE/CE after getting some consensus on the talk page. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:05, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

The question is about the title of general articles like AD 10, 13 BC, 420s BC, 16th century BC, 2nd millennium BC. I think they should use the same naming convention for consistency. @Interstellarity: I don't know how the convention to use BC was chosen or whether it has been discussed. For the use of AD, see Talk:AD 1/Archive 1#What should the articles from 1 to 100 be moved to? PrimeHunter (talk) 01:25, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

MOS:ERA is part of a guideline, the "Manual of Style/Dates and Numbers", and is part of another guideline, the Manual of Style. Article titles are governed by the policy Wikipedia:Article titles. Adherence to policies is required, while guidelines are just suggestions. The guideline that applies to dates and numbers within article titles is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (numbers and dates), and that guideline indicates article titles should use AD or BC when needed. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Citations etc

Hi. I've had an article declined about the artist Elizabeth Rauchwerger. I'm hoping that there may be more people out there that know about her, hence setting up a Wikipedia page that people will hopefully add to. She's an artist who is still living and painting, and her works are held in several national collections, and at The Royal College of Art (where she taught in the 1960's). I believe that she had several articles written about her in the 1960's and 1970's, but I can't find them online, so have nothing to link to. What can I do to create a page? Richard A Voyce (talk) 15:51, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Richard A Voyce, welcome to the Teahouse. In order to write a Wikipedia article, all material must be attributable to reliable, published sources. This is called verifiability. If you can't find any sources, we can't have an article about it. We do allow offline sources if you are able to find any. ––FormalDude (talk) 16:28, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Where an artist has works held in the permanent collection of a nationally or internationally-important museum or gallery, they are generally considered notable (see WP:ARTIST, but the problem is that even if they're notable, you can't write anything about them unless there is a source from which you can get the information. In the old days, Wikipedia didn't mind stub articles about people who were obviously notable; stubs appeared, and people expanded them. But WP is so big now that stubs are likely to hang around as stubs for years, and for that reason, stubs are now very much discouraged. You could flag that we need an article about her by adding her to WP:RA, the requested-article list, but subjects tend to hang around on that list for a long time. The best thing would be if you could trace any of those paper articles from the 1960's or 70's. Elemimele (talk) 09:56, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, FormanDude. I've managed to find a mention of Elizabeth Rauchwerger under her maiden name, Elizabeth Keys, in the RA Summer Catalogue of 1987 as being an exhibitor.

https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/art-artists/exhibition-catalogue/ra-sec-vol219-1987

Does this count? And if so, how do I go about adding it onto the page I'd started creating, please? (anmd thank you for your assistance). Kind regards, Richard Voyce Richard A Voyce (talk) 11:37, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Apologies for the typo, FormalDude... Richard A Voyce (talk) 12:16, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Reporting user for name

I don't know where I am supposed to report this, but this user needs to be blocked for name violations. User:Grand Pa's nutts. TY — Moops ^⋠T⋡ 18:08, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Moops - there's a board set up just for this purpose, UAA. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:13, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

I will report them there then. TY. — Moops ^⋠T⋡ 18:14, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

What's the problem with noting that Grandpa's crazy?? (Ah ha ha ha ha ...)Uporządnicki (talk) 20:03, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia needs to make where it you can't sign up with certain names to comply with terms of use. They should check to see if you name comply or not. They check to make sure a name is not taken. Same way for social media. Social media build a feature to check the name to make sure it complies with their terms of use.Cwater1 (talk) 20:12, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Essay for a real estate company

I want to publish an article that completely meets the requirement of publishing without being declined or blocked!!

In addition, I want someone guides me to do so, because i submitted an article before and it was rejected. 165.16.80.49 (talk) 20:21, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello IP user, welcome to the Teahouse. There is a detailed set of instructions at Help:Your first article. The most important thing to do is to find multiple reliable, independent, secondary sources with significant coverage of this organization. No press releases; not the organization's website; not interviews with the organization's personnel. These will prove notability and form the basis of the article. I'm not sure what you mean by "blocked" - I hope you don't mean that you have been blocked, either as an IP or when using an account. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 20:27, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

hi, no i have not been blocked at all, another thing i need a guide in private or talk page to publish my article Bushra Tughar (talk) 21:00, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

@Bushra Tughar, I assume this is about the draft at User:Bushra Tughar/sandbox. You received several replies to your last question (archived here) but haven't made any changes to the draft. Wikipedia editors generally prefer to work out in the open, rather than privately. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:10, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

hello, please send me a detailed review of my draft, so that i can fix any mistake Bushra Tughar (talk) 11:34, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm afraid there is no point in providing a detailed review. You need to scrap what you have written, find multiple, reliable, independent, secondary sources with significant coverage of this organization. And write a fresh article based solely on what those sources say, citing those sources. If you cannot find such sources, then the article is not possible on this platform, though you might be able to find alternative outlets. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:06, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Template help

Hello, Sir/madam, I have recently created this template: Template:N. T. Rama Rao series, can someone help me to change the top white text to black? because of the color ccontrast between yellow and white the text is not visible. Thank you 456legend(talk) 07:57, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

 Done ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 07:58, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

thank you for the help. 456legend(talk) 08:40, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

greetings all

hello my name is kelly and im wondering if there is a group i can get involved with that is farely active and needs volunteers who are willing to learn i would like to meet some people online who may in the future help me with developing apps and other random projects. kellyiskey The Eighth Dimensions (talk) 09:44, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello @The Eighth Dimensions, and Welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for wanting to help out!

If you're looking for a community to help at, you may want to find a WikiProject. (here's an excerpt from the wikiproject info page)

A WikiProject is a group of contributors who want to work together as a team to improve Wikipedia. These groups often focus on a specific topic area (for example, WikiProject Mathematics or WikiProject India), a specific part of the encyclopedia (for example, WikiProject Disambiguation), or a specific kind of task (for example, checking newly created pages).

To find a WikiProject based on creating content, such as a project based on Australian related articles or Physics related articles, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. Or, to find a WikiProject based on maintaining the site, such as helping fight vandalism or fixing typos, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Wikipedia.

Wikiprojects can be very overwhelming at first, so if you have any questions, you can have a look at Wikipedia:WikiProject or feel free to reply here if you that page doesn't help. Thanks, and good luck! echidnaLives - talk - edits 10:39, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

New biographical article Draft:Thomas Martin (pathologist)

I'm writing this article about an Australian pathologist and have created a draft for it. I need help from expert BLP editors since there are very less reliable sources that I have found until now

Biographical sources:

• Centre for Transformative Innovation, Swinburne University of Technology. "Martin, Thomas John (Jack) - Person - Encyclopedia of Australian Science and Innovation". www.eoas.info. Retrieved 2022-10-29.
• Fioritti, Nathan (2016-11-22). "Professor Emeritus Thomas John Martin AO". Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry and Health Sciences. Retrieved 2022-10-29.

Scientific sources:

• Martin, Thomas J.; Hovis, Jeffrey D.; Costantino, Joseph P.; Bierman, Morris I.; Donahoe, Michael P.; Rogers, Robert M.; Kreit, John W.; Sciurba, Frank C.; Stiller, Ronald A.; Sanders, Mark H. (2000-03-01). "A Randomized, Prospective Evaluation of Noninvasive Ventilation for Acute Respiratory Failure". American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine. 161 (3): 807–813. doi:10.1164/ajrccm.161.3.9808143. ISSN 1073-449X.
• Karsdal, Morten A; Martin, Thomas J; Bollerslev, Jens; Christiansen, Claus; Henriksen, Kim (2007-01-16). "Are Nonresorbing Osteoclasts Sources of Bone Anabolic Activity?". Journal of Bone and Mineral Research. 22 (4): 487–494. doi:10.1359/jbmr.070109.
• Martin, Thomas J.; Procházka, K.; Munk, P.; Webber, S. E. (1996-01-01). "pH-Dependent Micellization of Poly(2-vinylpyridine)- block -poly(ethylene oxide)". Macromolecules. 29 (18): 6071–6073. doi:10.1021/ma960629f. ISSN 0024-9297.
• Anderson, S. J.; Greisemer, B. A.; Johnson, M. D.; Martin, T. J.; McLain, L. G.; Rowland, T. W.; Small, E. "Intensive Training and Sports Specialization in Young Athletes". publications.aap.org. Retrieved 2022-10-29.
• J. Martin, Thomas; R. Schmidt(rk), Richard (1992-10-06). "Efficient sialylation with phosphite as leaving group". Tetrahedron Letters. The International Journal for the Rapid Publication of Preliminary. 33 (41): 6123–6126. doi:10.1016/S0040-4039(00)60022-9. ISSN 0040-4039.

— CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 13:33, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

@CrafterNova You don't seem to have started the draft yet, as there's a redlink in the section header here. Your two biographical sources are going to be the key, together with additional citations to verify that Martin won the various awards they mention such as the Eric Susman Prize. Overall you are trying to meet WP:NACADEMIC, so focus on one of criteria laid out at that link. Martin's publications are not really needed unless you can show they had a large impact in his field. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:00, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

I have not created it yet because I have barely typed the first paragraph right now. I will keep working on it and will thoroughly read the BLP and notability policies. Thank you for your advice — CrafterNova ^{[ TALK ] [ CONT ]} 14:04, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

COURTESY: Draft now exists at Draft:Thomas Martin (pathologist) David notMD (talk) 17:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Adding more information to a page

Hello,

I was going to try and edit a page and then found their was so much that needs to be corrected I didn't exactly know what to do. Maybe I am wrong to think it needs to be edited at all? Hope I can get some help with this.

Earlier I was trying to get specific information from the page Category:Cleaning product brands and found it to be incomplete/missing information.

First, I noticed the page only lists brands with actual pages on Wikipedia in the category. I was expecting to find a complete list of cleaning brands, not just the brands with pages on the site.

Second I found the list is omitting some major brands that actually do have pages created such as:

Persil Laundry Detergents

Spic and Span All-Purpose Cleaning Products

OxiClean All-Purpose Cleaning Products

Just to name a few.

Third, I noticed there are many brands not listed on the current page at all, including (Note: the following brands have not been checked to see if a page has already been made.):

All Laundry Detergent

Arm Hammer Laundry Detergents

Bon Ami Cleaning Products

Cascade Dishwasher Products

Fabuloso All-Purpose Cleaners

Finish Dishwasher Products

Formula 409 Multi-purpose Cleaners

Gain Laundry Cleaning Products

Goo Gone All-Purpose Cleaner

Kaboom! Household Cleaners

Method Cleaning Products

Mrs. Myers Household Cleaners

Pine Sol Multi-purpose Cleaner

Simple Green All-Purpose Cleaner

The Pink Stuff All-Purpose Cleaners

I feel the "Category: Cleaning Product Brands" page should include all brands of cleaning products whether they have a page on Wikipedia or not.

Another thing I noticed was that this page was last edited on 14 May 2018, at 18:35. Does it need to be updated?

Thank you for helping me with this.

Fireballnyc (talk) 16:09, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

@Fireballnyc By long consensus Wikipedia is not a directory of everything. The category pages are deliberately set up so that they only contain links to articles within that category. If that were not so, you could argue by the same logic that Wikipedia should categorise everyone on the planet. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:56, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Also, by the nature of how categories work, they can only contain existing pages. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 16:58, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

@Fireballnyc: Some of the items you listed as "not listed on the current page at all", such as Arm & Hammer and Simple Green do have articles, and the articles do appear in Category:Cleaning products. Others, such as Pine-Sol, are in subcategories (in this case Category:Clorox brands, which is a subcategory of Category:Cleaning product brands, itself a subcategory listed in Category:Cleaning products). Deor (talk) 23:14, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

do you can to help me on creating article from this draft(link below)?

Draft:NateNet נתנאל שטרן (talk) 16:55, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

@נתנאל שטרן Why don't you just read HELP:YFA and WP:REFB and create the draft you need to create. Wikipedia is designed for anyone to edit. Be that anyone. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:58, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

The draft does in fact exist, they're asking for it to be pushed to article namespace. That isn't happening at this point becuase there are no reliable sources or anything to indicate the subject is notable. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 17:00, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

DELETE SOURCE CODE SECTION. Add references before resubmitting. David notMD (talk) 17:28, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

thank you נתנאל שטרן (talk) 19:08, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Well, they had not created the draft they need to create, though I guess that was mildly ambiguous. They still have work to do.

🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 18:04, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Help In Submitting My Draft as I Have Fixed the Said Issue

Need help in Submitting My Draft as I Have Fixed the Said Issue and done my research on the subject and provided more sources and removed the other source

Draft:Godson Umeh - Wikipedia Links to articles to back most of the bullet points written in the report. After this recent update and changes to improve the draft, I honestly believe it to be deemed notable as there are a wide range of publications about the subject on the internet

, , , Beckyrose233 (talk) 18:49, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

@Beckyrose233: Welcome to the Teahouse. You have already submitted the draft for review; a reviewer will look at it eventually. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:01, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Godson Umeh reviewed and Declined on 29 October. See the "My article... entry below for comments on the quality of the references. David notMD (talk) 03:36, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

References

How to make a basic diagram about a battle/war?

(e.g Belligerents, length of battle/war)

also, i mean visual editor, not source code. ReelmsyWiki (talk) 19:39, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

@ReelmsyWiki: It sounds as though you might want the template {{Infobox military conflict}}, though I have no idea how one might add that with the visual editor, which I've never used. If no one responds here, you might try asking the folk at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history. Deor (talk) 23:04, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

My Article got decline again despite passing WNG

My article got declined despite it passing not just mention but actual work from independent sources, with all due respect, He is prominently covered in many of the sources I provided. and online These are not articles with "a few mentions". You're flat out WP:GASLIGHTING at this point. and again

The sources are independent. they haven't @ Beckyrose233 (talk) 19:39, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

• Courtsey link: Draft:Godson Umeh. 331dot (talk) 19:45, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Beckyrose233 Hello and welcome. The issue is not the outlets themselves, but their content. Interviews, glowing promotional pieces, and announcements do not establish notability. 331dot (talk) 19:49, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

331dot i added over 10 source there from reliable source and you mean to tell me that all 10 article are promotiobal pieces ? any evidence they are ? this is clearly not right how does donating sound promotional ? or grass to grace story of a celebrity sound promotional common we have over 100 celebrities grass to grace story out there on the internet are you trying to say they all should be tagged promotional ? and most of them have been use as ref i dont want to mention names Beckyrose233 (talk)

Beckyrose233 A source can be used on Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean it establishes notability. The sources break down this way

1. quotes his twitter postings, basically an interview
2. is an interview with him
3. is a brief piece about him that does little more than identify a client and give Mr. Umeh's motivation
4. has "Conquer Agency" as a byline, probably a paid promotional piece by his PR agency
5. is an announcement of a potential collaboration, a routine business activity
6. documents a public appearance with a celebrity
7. notes that he did work for a celebrity
8. is a brief mention that quotes him and tells of his work for celebrities
9. tells that he opened a showroom, a routine business activity
10. tells of some good work that he does for the underpriviliged

None of these things establish notability. The last source is probably the best of the group, but lots of people do charitable work. If you just want to tell the world about his good life story, this isn't the place to do that. 331dot (talk) 20:52, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Finding authorship

How do you find out who has added content to a wiki page? 167.88.87.209 (talk) 21:10, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Page histories are public knowledge for the most part; look at the "History" tab, located at the top of every page. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 21:14, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

A green number means added. A red number means substracted. The numbers indicate bytes. David notMD (talk) 03:24, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

To locate which edit added or removed certain text, you can go to the wp:WikiBlame tool for any article by clicking Find addition/removal in External tools just under "Filter revisions" near the top of the article's "Revision history" page. N.b.: trying to find an edit manually can be very time-consuming. --97.115.126.127 (talk) 03:55, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Archiving a talk page

I want to archive my talk page (User talk:Kilaseell), but i don't know how. --Cheers! Kilaseell - Message me! - 22:01, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

See H:ARC. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 22:07, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, i don't get it at all --Cheers! Kilaseell - Message me! - 22:20, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Basically you choose either lowercase sigmabot III or ClueBot III (flip a coin) and paste one of the configuration templates shown there onto your talk page. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 22:22, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, i think i got it now lol --Cheers! Kilaseell - Message me! - 22:27, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Incorrect title

Please someone move José González (footballer, born 1988) to José González (footballer, born 1998). The current title is incorrect. 2804:14C:D4A1:823A:214D:EC:6C2C:57D8 (talk) 23:16, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Done. RudolfRed (talk) 23:34, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

by the way, simple, uncontroversial title changes should be requested at wikipedia:requested moves/technical requests. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 04:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Will someone please do my research for me?

This is a joke - speedy deletion is called for I think. However you may disagree. 66.102.220.148 (talk) 04:20, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Tag the article with a suitable db template. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 04:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Didn't understand a notification

Hi, (again)

I just got this:

"An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Roly-Poly (T-ara song), you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Musical."

Can somone explain this to me please? RWikiED20 (talk) 09:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I agree that message is not very helpful. Wikilinks in articles should not lead to a disambiguation page. If you click on that link you will see that it leads to a page describing the different meanings of the word musical. It should instead link to musical theatre. Shantavira|^{feed me} 09:50, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @RWikiED20, this means that, when you added a link in the article, it pointed to a disambiguation page, which does not point to the target article you wanted. I think I fixed it in this edit. Kpddg ^(talk) 09:52, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

oh, I got that. Thank you! RWikiED20 (talk) 10:53, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

ERROR IN YOUR ARTICLE ON WILLIAM COWPERS BRANN

In the article on Wm. Cowpers Brann the article states " On April 1, 1898, Brann was walking alone on Waco's Fourth Street when he was shot in the back by Tom Davis, a Baylor supporter whose daughter was a student at the University." Brann was not alone, as he was accompanied by W.H. Ward who grabbed Davis' gun preventing him from firing until he (Ward) was shot in the hand. Ward was tried but acquitted and told to leave town for his own safety. Davis had 5 daughters and one son. All the daughters attended Baylor and their aunt(Tom's sister Maggie Davis Allen) had bestowed a large sum of money and some property to Baylor. The Sheriff's report and the testimonies are all on the internet and can be viewed for free. Tom Davis was my Great Grandfather. His son James was my mother's father. 2601:1C0:6080:3FD0:64B3:25A5:58DD:A5D2 (talk) 10:12, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

I assume you mean William Cowper Brann. Wikipedia reports what reliable sources report. Do you have a reliable source for your assertion? If, so feel free to propose this as Talk:William Cowper Brann. Shantavira|^{feed me} 10:26, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

reliable srources

Hello, Are these reliable sources for wikipedia: [1]https://disruptmagazine.com/career-in-medicine-inspiring-story-from-real-world-doctor-yousef-abo-zarad-2/ [2]https://www.mid-day.com/brand-media/article/doctor-yousef-abo-zarad-a-youth-iconic-dermatologist-who-promotes-good-and-heal-23252348 [3]https://www.ibtimes.sg/dermatologist-social-media-star-millions-subscribers-what-makes-this-doctor-yousef-turn-his-67057 [4]https://techbullion.com/encouraging-voyage-of-most-followed-arab-dermatologist-doctor-yousef-abo-zarad/ 212.133.192.93 (talk) 12:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

It depends what you want the sources to support. I looked at the first, which says of the author of the piece "[she is] helping them amplify their message and build their brand & online presence." That sounds like WP:PROMOTION and mere puffery, not something we would encourage here. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:36, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

All four sources are versions of the same promotional blurb. None of them is reliable or independent. --bonadea contributions talk 08:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Create a new Wiki Page

Dear Editors: Greetings, Raylaur 15 here. I am interested in creating a new wiki article on West Indian soca arranger and pianist Frankie McIntosh. I believe he meets your "notable" criteria, as he arranged the music and played on hundreds of influential scoa (soul/calypso music from Trinidad)) recordings during the 1980s and 1990s. He worked with all the big stars--Sparrow, Lord Kitchner Calypso Rose, Chalkdust, and scores of others. His accomplishments are well documented in the Caribbean press and in several scholarly sources.

I have now edited ten Wikipedia pages over the past week (Oct 21-25) as follows: Calypso Rose Soca Music Calypso Music Latin Jazz Granville Straker Mighty Shadow Steel Pan List Caribbean Music Genres Lord Kitchener Mighty Sparrow

Am I now eligible to write an original Wikipedia article? Is there some official approval protocol I need to go through, or can I simply go ahead and write and submit the article?

Please advise.

best, Ray Raylaur15 (talk) 13:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Welome to the Teahouse and it's great that you want to expand the encyclopedia. Writing a new article is not easy and I strongly suggest you follow the procedure at Help:Your first article. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:35, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

In thoery, you could just create the article, but new-to-Wikipedia editors are advised to go through YFA, which leads to submitting a draft for a review decision by an experienced reviewer. If Declined, the reviewer will give reasons that identify (some) of the draft's inadequacies. If those fixed and draft resubmitted, possible the next reviewer will have different reasons to Decline. References always essential. David notMD (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

David: Thankd for your response. I will go through the YFA tutorial before creating and submitting a new article. 

best,

Raylaur15 Raylaur15 (talk) 12:32, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

How to contribute in other ways?

Hello,

So I have been editing on Wikipedia for a while - I guess since 2017. But I have been looking for some bigger opportunities to contribute to Wikimedia - not only for the experience but also because I genuinely relate to their mission.

So I knew about Administrative Roles, WMLabs and Phabricator but how do you go about helping in them? I am not very proficient with code but if there are any other non-coding ways through which I can contribute - I would love to. Komchi^✉_☆ 14:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

@Komchi You may already be aware of it but the task center may provide some inspiration. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:44, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

St Mungo's High School - Over detailed comment from John

St Mungo's High School - Hi there, John reverted my edits on the schools facilities. I was thinking the Pastoral and Management staff is overdetailed and could be trimmed down a little with the School Facilities staying as it does detail what the school has. Is there a specific rule for this? Would I be able to add some things back trimmed down?

Thanks for your help so far guys. Haksataylor (talk) 16:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

@Haksataylor The aim for Wikipedia editors is to find a WP:CONSENSUS for what should be in articles. The place to discuss that is on the Talk Page of the article. A relevant policy is WP:UNDUE but you need to discuss the specifics with the other editor, who you can WP:PING to your discussion. This is our standard WP:BRD process. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:10, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

And @Haksataylor would you mind noting how you found that article and thought to caution an editor who had been editing it? If you two have a connection to the school, per WP:COI and WP:PAID, you need to disclose that. Star Mississippi 17:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi there, Yes I can answer the question for you. So the IP address which has been banned was one of the schools.

There was another person who edited the schools page but what I did pick up from being a pupil is the regular mistakes such as typo's etc.

I am currently unaware of who it is but the reason I have created an account is to make sure the information displayed is accurate and reliable. To your question, yes I do have an affiliation with the school I am a current senior pupil. I am happy to discuss anything further.

Thanks. Haksa. Haksataylor (talk) 17:51, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for that information and clarification @Haksataylor. As a senior pupil, you should probably make use of WP:Edit Requests although it may not be required. You should definitely note the connection on your User page. As far as your question about re-adding trimmed information, I'd suggest looking to see what independent reliable sources have to say about your school. Probably less likely to talk about where classes are held and maybe some information about notable programs. Is that helpful? Have a great day and thanks for your contributions. Star Mississippi 17:57, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks again for that! I'll definitely take on what you are saying about the user page, I can understand the conflict of interest and the highlighting of it. I'll also take a look at what you have highlighted there and take a look at it. Thanks again, I will let you know if there is any problems. Haksataylor (talk) 18:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome. Happy to help, along with official teahouse hosts. Have a great day! Star Mississippi 18:09, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

one other piece of help @Haksataylor. If you want John to see that you asked a question about his edit, you would use {{ping|John}} this formatting, where you replace John with the user name of the editor you're asking. I've pinged @John on your behalf here. Star Mississippi 18:23, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

This may be a silly question but where would I ping someone for future reference?

Would it be in my own talk page, the talk page of the article in question?

Thanks @Star Mississippi Haksataylor (talk) 18:29, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

There are no silly questions. As @Michael D. Turnbull suggested above, if talking about an article, I would use the Talk page that way any editors (now or in the future} interested in the school can find the discussion rather than remember it was you or another editor they had been talking to. So in this case it would be Talk:St Mungo's High School. But you can ping someone on any discussion page, as you did here and it notified me that you m mentioned me. If you're discussing something on your talk, or another editor's the ping function works there but easiest to keep content discussions central. Star Mississippi 18:36, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Much appreciated! Thank you! Haksataylor (talk) 18:43, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

How to edit basic information for a persons page on the site.

I was looking up someone I used to know and found a page on them on this site. However quite a bit of info is incorrect (verified through government sites for some) including the basic info listed about them. I can find how to edit all other ares, but not the basic info. How to do so? Tryitouts (talk) 17:20, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

@Tryitouts I assume you refer to the article Byron Chubbuck which you recently edited in this diff to alter the DOB to 1967 when previously the information cited to his inmate profile said 1966. How do you know the 1967 date is correct? Wikipedia relies on published sources and editors cannot change details because they "know" them to be correct, since readers' ability to verify information is a core policy. Do you have a WP:COI in relation to Chubbuck? If so you must declare it on your own User Page and/or the Talk Page of that article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

How to get more info in a topic.

Hello, hope you guys are having a good day, you guys have any tips to get more info in certain topics, because sometimes I look and look but never find anything help, thanks! Massacreek (talk) 22:17, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Massacreek, you have made two edits in the last month: the one immediately above, and another in Seoul Halloween crowd crush. You described the latter edit as "Added more description about the victims." The edit consisted of the addition of one space. I like to "assume good faith", but here I have difficulty doing so. -- Hoary (talk) 23:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes sorry god, I will put the Social Security of the victims next time. Shut up and get a life god damn it, I was asking for advice not for your opinion lmao. Massacreek (talk) 00:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Massacreek, telling an editor to 'shut up and get a life' is not a good idea. In general do not use Wikipedia to search about a topic, since you will only get the correct result if you know what the article subject is called. If you need more in-depth information on the subject of a Wikipedia article, look at the references and try some of the links or books there. Sungodtemple (talk) 00:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I was really looking for a tip. Mr. Hoary gave a opinion, something that I like but was not looking for. Thank you and I will learn from this, I don't know why older uses pick on new users. People like this volunteer to give simple info to public so is best one gets advice and doesn't get attacked for asking for one Hoary could have simply told me my mistake and sure I would have taken it but the thing he said is just not an advice is just a personal opinion I'm not looking for. Sorry Mr. Hoary but please I don't want your opinion, thank you Sun appreciate the tip! Massacreek (talk) 00:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Massacreek, this page is mostly used by people trying (or failing) to contribute to articles or to create them. I sleepily assumed that that was how you'd intended your question to be read. But this isn't the only purpose of the page, and Sungodtemple points out that you may instead have been asking about reading Wikipedia's articles and what to do when they don't sate your appetite. Sungodtemple's advice is excellent; but if you give an example or two either (A) of articles that deliver little or nothing or (B) of subject areas that Wikipedia doesn't address, perhaps we can give additional advice. -- Hoary (talk) 00:56, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

NOTHERE TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 01:09, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

How do you guys use the footnote template?

I tried doing footnotes through the footnote template but my text won't show up, help! Slaythe (talk) 00:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

I believe that this is about Template:NoteTag, which within User:Slaythe/sandbox hasn't yet worked as hoped for. -- Hoary (talk) 01:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Exaclty Hoary. Slaythe (talk) 13:52, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Slaythe Is it fixed by this edit by @Rotideypoc41352? Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:21, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Latvian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

I feel Latvian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic is an important article that could use refinement. I would appreciate it if I could find other editors (new like me, or with more experience) willing to help and provide input. I would like to go through the article paragraph by paragraph in partnership with other people. I feel working with other editors will yield a better result than trying to tackle such a big job alone and in a vacuum. I also want to discuss (learn) methods and approach. Thanks in advance! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:10, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps a good place to make an invitation such as this would be Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Latvia. -- Hoary (talk) 01:56, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

kk, thanks! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 03:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

You could also try WP:SOCIALISM. -- asilvering (talk) 06:20, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Flibbertigibbets: You were right to post on Talk:Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic. I think you should just BEBOLD and make the changes you want and if anyone has any concerns they will let you know. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 06:31, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Tim I will approach the project incrementally (a little bit at a time)! Flibbertigibbets (talk) 11:25, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Flibbertigibbets, you could indeed also try WP:SOCIALISM (or anyway its talk page). However, I don't recommend that you do before seeing what reaction you get from Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Latvia. And if you do post on any second (or third) project talk page, do so in a way that doesn't risk starting a parallel discussion. (The gist of a good post: "I've posted to Talk:Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic a message about improving the article Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic. I invite you to take a look and to comment at the former if interested.") -- Hoary (talk) 07:28, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Logo does not show up in the infobox

Logo does not show up. Organisation logos in infoboxes are common practice on Wikipedia. But this one (link to article) does not show up. Why does it now show up? MahaNakhon (talk) 15:55, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

The logo is visible on Wikipedia, but not Wikimedia. Uploaded with Upload Wizard. MahaNakhon (talk) 15:59, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

That logo is hosted locally on the English Wikipedia, and so cannot be used in the Swedish edition. Uploading this to sewiki would require following Swedish copyright law and the policies of that Wikipedia. ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 16:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Maddy from Celeste: MahaNakhon uploaded two copies of the image to enwiki. I have tagged one copy for F1 and the other for F5 speedy deletion. – dudhhr ^talk _contribs (he/they) 16:12, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Complex logos are, in most cases, subject to copyright restrictions and cannot be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, which is for freely licensed and public domain images and videos only. A logo uploaded as non free content to the English Wikipedia can only be used in an English language Wikipedia article about the company. Because there is no English language article about CombinedX, the logo cannot be hosted here and must be deleted. MahaNakhon, you need to research the policies regarding logos on the Swedish Wikipedia, and if appropriate, upload the logo there. Their policies may vary. Read WP:LOGO for more information about use of logos here. Cullen328 (talk) 16:36, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Serious inconsistency between articles

As a long time donor to wikipedia, I am concerned about the strong inconsistency between the following two pages. Please review them as they are totally contradictory on many points about the influence if any of CO2 upon long term Climate. Geologic temperature record. and Climate change. The Geologic record is based on scientific observation....the Climate change article is based on Opinion and exaggerated claims. I will be glad to help edit the two and other articles on the real science if you require some assistance. Cheers Tom Gallagher Victoria Canada 24.69.141.170 (talk) 18:19, 31 October 2022 (UTC)