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My name is Zeeshan. I also belong to a Gujjar family. I wanna add some Gujjar clans that I know. [[User:Zee786m|Zee786m]] ([[User talk:Zee786m|talk]]) 11:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
My name is Zeeshan. I also belong to a Gujjar family. I wanna add some Gujjar clans that I know. [[User:Zee786m|Zee786m]] ([[User talk:Zee786m|talk]]) 11:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
:You can request specific changes here on this talk page on the form "Please change X to Y", citing [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. – '''[[User:Þjarkur|Thjarkur]]''' [[User talk:Þjarkur|(talk)]] 12:02, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
:You can request specific changes here on this talk page on the form "Please change X to Y", citing [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. – '''[[User:Þjarkur|Thjarkur]]''' [[User talk:Þjarkur|(talk)]] 12:02, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

== Inclusion criteria ==

As stated at [[Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists]], [[Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists]] and [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists#Adding individual items to a list]]:-
# All lists must have clearly defined inclusion criteria
# Every entry should meet the [[Wikipedia:Notability|notability criteria]] for its own article. [[Wikipedia:Red link|Red-linked entries]] are acceptable '''if''' the entry is [[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiably]] a member of the list, and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future. This prevents [[WP:IINFO|indiscriminate lists]], and prevents individual lists from being too large to be useful to readers.
# Editors may, at their discretion, [[WP:LSC|choose to limit large lists by only including entries for independently notable items or those with Wikipedia articles]].
# All list entries must follow Wikipedia's [[WP:CCPOL|core content policies]] of [[WP:V|Verifiability]] (by citing [[WP:Identifying reliable sources|reliable sources]] as [[WP:INTREF|references]]), [[WP:NOR|No original research]], and [[WP:NPOV|Neutral point of view]]
This list fails most of these requirements in that:-
*There are no clearly defined inclusion criteria
*Many of the entries are not "[[Wikipedia:Verifiability|verifiably]] a member of the list" in that they have neither an article '''nor''' a reference
*As per the above rules, all redlinks, without a citation, should be removed
*Redlinks with a citation, should only remain if it is "reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming". (although how this can/should be assessed is unclear)
*Personally, I would like to avoid this indeterminable criteria and "limit the list to entries with a Wikipedia articles", and delete all redlinks - as point 3 above and most other similar lists - but that is a matter for consensus.
*I invite comments on the elimination of all redlinks, but will remove redlinks, without citations, as per the above rationale
*If there are no reasoned objections, say within 3 months, I will remove the remaining redlinks - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 12:43, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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Maan/Waney Is Clan{Gotra} Of Gurjars

Maan/Waney Is A Clan Of Gurjars It Is Found in haryana Maney/Waney/Maan Is A One Clan Of Gurjar Gurjar Cast Has More Than 1K Clans Theritikmaan (talk) 01:56, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 July 2018

some Gujjar clans i know is "Chudry, Thakur, Arain and bhati" please add these clans in this page my full name is "Sardar faizan Thakur Gujjar" Sardarfaizan (talk) 13:36, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Supplying unpublished information based on your own personal knowledge is considered original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:57, 27 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2018

196.207.105.241 (talk) 13:42, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

K

 Not done No article of that name. Fish+Karate 13:19, 7 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Add more gotra of Gurjar

'Lali' is a subcaste of gujar which is found in Haryana and Rajasthan border.

Our gotra is Mundel ( Murair) Sewaramji (talk) 17:26, 24 February 2019 (UTC) List of Gujjar Gotra 01 Kohli / Dayama 02 Kasana 03 Tomer 04 Tanwar 05 Bainsla 06 Baisoya 07 Bhati 08 Adhan 09 Nagar 10 Sharadhna 11 Rawat 12 Mavai 13 Gorsi / Gobariya 14 Poswal 15 Bhamara 16 Bhadana — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.190.92.232 (talk) 11:54, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2019

Kasana Gskasana (talk) 21:51, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 00:54, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2020

Add

 Not done: as Kasana does not link to an article about a clan, and you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 09:43, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 February 2020

DEEPAK BHEDI GUJJAR (talk) 10:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC) Bhedi gotra is also gurjars from rajasthan, gurgaon.[reply]
 Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 11:18, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please Add Chauhan as a Gurjar clan

Please add Chauhan in the list of Gurjar Clans, as there are around 84 villages in and around Kairana (uttar Pradesh India) with this clan of Gurjars. The political leaders such as former Member of Parliament Sanjay Singh Chauhan, former MLA Hukum Singh Chauhan, current MLA Tabassum Begum Chauhan are all Gurjar Chauhans. Plaese check the below news aticals for reference:

https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2019/mar/30/former-sp-minister-choudhury-virendra-singh-joins-bjp-1957986.html

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/lucknow/SP-wooing-Gurjars-ahead-of-Lok-Sabha-polls/articleshow/20029612.cms

https://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/NewsDetail/index/9/17616/Why-the-Nationalist-Gujjar-Bakarwals-of-JK-Feel-Betrayed-by-the-Government

https://www.morebooks.de/store/gb/book/rana-ali-hasan-chauhan/isbn/978-613-4-50030-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:DC0:C86:3C66:4A37:A451:5723 (talk) 12:19, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many gotra are missing.

Where is kasana, poswal, chouhan etc gotra. Because in gurjar society have 1178 gotra. Dineshkasana (talk) 09:27, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, it would be better if this article did not exist. To add anything to it would require reliable sources, and please note that caste associations are not reliable. - Sitush (talk) 09:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify, it should be redirected to Gurjar. - Sitush (talk) 09:51, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think if the members of the caste are adding gotra names from their own caste associations it's ok. Because they will be better informed about their own castes than others. Good faith edits should not be reverted otherwise there will be nothing to read. Truthfulsoldier (talk) 07:49, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, caste associations are not reliable sources, and they almost all "promote" their own caste - Arjayay (talk) 08:25, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok they aren't reliable. But atleast the least of clans can be added from that source. For the history or origins of a particular caste we may have to depend on the opinion of Historians and anthropologists but atleast the list of clans can be added from caste association sources 

Truthfulsoldier (talk) 08:30, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 December 2020

hello! My name is Zeeshan. I also belong to a Gujjar family. I wanna add some Gujjar clans that I know. Zee786m (talk) 11:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You can request specific changes here on this talk page on the form "Please change X to Y", citing reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 12:02, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion criteria

As stated at Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists, Wikipedia:Notability#Stand-alone lists and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists#Adding individual items to a list:-

  1. All lists must have clearly defined inclusion criteria
  2. Every entry should meet the notability criteria for its own article. Red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is verifiably a member of the list, and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future. This prevents indiscriminate lists, and prevents individual lists from being too large to be useful to readers.
  3. Editors may, at their discretion, choose to limit large lists by only including entries for independently notable items or those with Wikipedia articles.
  4. All list entries must follow Wikipedia's core content policies of Verifiability (by citing reliable sources as references), No original research, and Neutral point of view

This list fails most of these requirements in that:-

  • There are no clearly defined inclusion criteria
  • Many of the entries are not "verifiably a member of the list" in that they have neither an article nor a reference
  • As per the above rules, all redlinks, without a citation, should be removed
  • Redlinks with a citation, should only remain if it is "reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming". (although how this can/should be assessed is unclear)
  • Personally, I would like to avoid this indeterminable criteria and "limit the list to entries with a Wikipedia articles", and delete all redlinks - as point 3 above and most other similar lists - but that is a matter for consensus.
  • I invite comments on the elimination of all redlinks, but will remove redlinks, without citations, as per the above rationale
  • If there are no reasoned objections, say within 3 months, I will remove the remaining redlinks - Arjayay (talk) 12:43, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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