Talk:Mountaineering

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Winter Himalaism

There is no section on the most extreme style of Mountaineering or winter himalaism, which now goes to the race for the first entry in the eight-thousanders. All known portals and magazines mountain now the main attention is devoted to winter himalaism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.8.243.73 (talk) 13:39, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Is hiking mountaineering?

The lede includes hiking as a form of mountaineering, but this is not developed in the body of the article, where there isn't even a discussion of scrambling. The article needs to be clearer as to whether or not hiking is is a type of mountaineering. Perhaps the lede should be revised to include something like this:

[Hiking in the mountains becomes a simple form of mountaineering when it involves scrambling, or includes short stretches of the more basic grades of rock climbing.

Rwood128 (talk) 17:07, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

The express purpose of 'Mountaineering' is to climb a peak. Not stroll up one.

Besides, most peaks require - or at least did - the mountaineers to hike some distance on foot to get to the mountain and begin climbing in the first place.

But otherwise, perhaps, yes, some hikes may involve a little simple mountaineering. Generally nowadays mountaineering requires specialised climbing equipment such as ropes and pitons, crampons, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.31.130.99 (talk) 09:53, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

7 Summits

The 7 Summits are a huge part of large scale mountaineering, I feel like there should be some mention of them in the article. --Jbrtn44 (talk) 08:42, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Absolute nonsense of a sentence

A commonly cited example is the 1492 ascent of Mont Aiguille (2,085 m (6,841 ft)) by Antoine de Ville, a French military officer and lord of Domjulien and Beaupré. This expedition was a military exercise involving a team using ladders and ropes. King Louis XIV ordered its ascent to assert national sovereignty and his rule of France.[12]
Antoine de Ville and Louis XIV lived centuries part. Did Louis XIV order a new climb? I don't know what the source (Peter H. Hansen (14 May 2013). The Summits of Modern Man.) says.--Adûnâi (talk) 00:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Intersecting with climbing

Mountaineering and climbing are mutually intersecting sets. As per the definition mountaineering include subsets of:

• outdoor climbing and traversing via ferratas – intersected with the independent set of climbing;
• skiing – unrelated to climbing.

Therefore, these 2 types of sports (and their categories) cannot be in a hierarchical relationship: neither mountaineering is a sub-category of climbing, nor the opposite. I will separate their categories. --Elkost (talk) 06:41, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Styles of mountaineering

"There are two main styles of mountaineering: expedition style and alpine style." The article mentions "a siege-style expedition". Please explain what this is (perhaps in a new subsection for 'other' styles, besides the two main ones). —DIV (1.145.36.244 (talk) 06:33, 8 November 2022 (UTC))
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