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== James Pantemis == |
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was released by club on Nov 15 - should he be listed here as unattached (at point of start of tourney) or attached (when squad was officially announced, on Nov 12) ? [[User:Mayumashu|Mayumashu]] ([[User talk:Mayumashu|talk]]) 23:15, 18 November 2022 (UTC) |
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Ngamaleu (Cameroon)
Please, check the squad of Cameroon team. Ngamaleu is included too! 37.212.17.216 (talk) 09:20, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have added him it for the squad. Mickey Đại Phát (talk) 02:27, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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The initial 35 to 55 player squads had to be registered with fifa until October 20th, not November 14th as it is in the article Talesin (talk) 13:02, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MadGuy7023 (talk) 13:19, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
Iran
Is the Iranian entry correct, 5 goalkeepers. Japhes 5005 2A00:23C7:A0BA:E001:1469:BDA9:E0D0:E97B (talk) 14:29, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's not final squad. Red Devil (talk) 17:38, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Player list by league system
Why player list by league system have 544 players in total? It must be multiple of 26 (Final squad length of a team) Sherifkk (talk) 14:54, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Red Devil: How is this table even generated? If it is just you going through the tables then it seems a bit WP:ORish / WP:SYNTHy. Are there any RSes that show the same data, as that is far more preferable than relying on a random person's counting skills? Spike 'em (talk) 16:55, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- I use Excel for that ;) For now there's no official counting, after the deadline (13th November) FIFA may prepare some statistics, and then there will be sourcing and everything :) Red Devil (talk) 17:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Do you understand WP:NOR is a fundamental rule on wikipedia? This section should be removed until it can be sourced. Spike 'em (talk) 17:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- I think it's better to have a peaceful solution, but i do agree with the point raised by Spike 'em. The following point on WP:OR states: "The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist. This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources. To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article and directly support the material being presented." Despite the section currently being highly/mostly accurate, it fits indeed in an original research description. Although i like this kind of data, it would be better to only introduce it when properly/reliably sourced. ~~ Skydream1721 (talk) 18:13, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- I'm an amateur editor, but I get the concept. I understand your point, but this is simple calculations, so I didn't think it needed a source - in this case I believe all sources that give NT squads are the source for our statistics. But if it's a problem, then we can probably wait until Monday-Tuesday, when official stats will be available. We can look for another solution, however before we come to conclusions, I believe the matter will no longer exist, as there will be a FIFA source. Peace! Red Devil (talk) 19:52, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- Do you understand WP:NOR is a fundamental rule on wikipedia? This section should be removed until it can be sourced. Spike 'em (talk) 17:41, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- I use Excel for that ;) For now there's no official counting, after the deadline (13th November) FIFA may prepare some statistics, and then there will be sourcing and everything :) Red Devil (talk) 17:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- I've just had a look, and according to page, 22 teams have announced their final squads. This should be a total of 572 players, but the 2 lists total 571. Where can I check the figures against to see which (team / league's) player is missing? Spike 'em (talk) 17:03, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- It's France. Red Devil (talk) 17:34, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
دانمارک
لیست دانمارک ناقص است 94.24.90.48 (talk) 17:26, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- تنص مقدمة الفريق على أن اللاعبين الخمسة الآخرين الذين لم يتم استدعاؤهم ما زالوا غير معروفين للجميع. لم يُعرف سوى 21 لاعباً حتى الآن ، وتم الإعلان رسمياً عن 21 لاعباً فقط من الفريق. ~~ Skydream1721 (talk) 17:55, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
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2607:FEA8:1124:1600:F079:545D:C932:CAD5 (talk) 16:20, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Captains Oldest: Brazil Thiago Silva (38 years, 59 days) This is false as Canada's Atiba Hutchinson is older
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2607:FEA8:1124:1600:F079:545D:C932:CAD5 (talk) 16:22, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Oldest player....MF Atiba Hutchinson (captain) February 8, 1983 (age 39) is older than DF Pepe 26 February 1983 (aged 39)
Costa Rica: Daniel Chacon and Brandon Aguilera
Shouldn't these players be listed with the clubs they have been loaned out to before the World Cup, instead of the clubs that own them? That's how other loanees are treated (and, I'd say, the traditional way to do it).
Viktor 2A02:8308:A18A:AE00:E088:CE07:BCCF:2014 (talk) 17:11, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes players should be, I have now corrected Brandon Aguilera. S.A. Julio (talk) 19:13, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Marcos Acuña ARGENTINA
Please change the position of Marcos Acuña in the Argentina squad, from MF to DF, since it was indicated in the official announcement: https://twitter.com/Argentina/status/1591082551950553088 2803:9800:9028:C31A:922:329D:86CA:8785 (talk) 12:46, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
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- In case of interest 82.41.164.225 (talk) 19:51, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not done: Quite excessive statistics in violation of WP:NOTSTATS. S.A. Julio (talk) 09:10, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- How about adding the following in with the bullets about player rep:
- - In 30 of 32 squads at least one member is from a club in England. Next highest are the leagues in Spain and Germany, each represented in 26 squads.
- Must be a record: England league was in 28 squads in 2018. 82.41.164.225 (talk) 12:42, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
Squad representation by league system
Team | Home | Other league | ||||||||||||||||
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Argentina | 1 | 5 | 6 | 9 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Australia | 7 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
Belgium | 5 | 7 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Brazil | 3 | 12 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | |
Cameroon | 2 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 111 |
Canada | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 11 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11 |
Costa Rica | 17 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Croatia | 6 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Denmark | 2 | 7 | 2 | 4 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Ecuador | 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
England | 25 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
France | 6 | 5 | 3 | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Germany | 20 | 4 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Ghana | 2 | 7 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 11 |
Iran | 9 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 111 |
Japan | 7 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 8 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Mexico | 16 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | |
Morocco | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 6 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Netherlands | 12 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Poland | 3 | 3 | 10 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | |
Portugal | 7 | 10 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Qatar | 26 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Saudi Arabia | 26 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Senegal | 0 | 10 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Serbia | 1 | 1 | 11 | 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 11 |
South Korea | 14 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11 |
Spain | 18 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Switzerland | 5 | 5 | 2 | 1 | 7 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Tunisia | 8 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1221 |
United States | 9 | 8 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
Uruguay | 3 | 3 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 33 |
Wales | 0 | 21 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Player representation by club, Bayern Munich needs fix
Sadio Manè is out, so Bayern Munich is at 16. Bye. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.207.160.27 (talk) 20:27, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
James Pantemis
was released by club on Nov 15 - should he be listed here as unattached (at point of start of tourney) or attached (when squad was officially announced, on Nov 12) ? Mayumashu (talk) 23:15, 18 November 2022 (UTC)