Talk:2020

Scheduled event (July 17 - Planned launch of NASA's Mars 2020 mission) contradicts with cited source

On NASA's website it is said that the launch window is scheduled between July the 22th and August the 11th, yet on Scheduled it is written that the launch is scheduled for July the 17th. I want to fix that, but I don't know if the launch window should be written on there or a single date, since every other event on that article is a single date.

Photo Montage

That's a cheery little set of photos you've added, isn't it? Could you not find anything positive to include? Deb (talk) 07:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Please remove this caption and image: "Mourners at the funeral of Qasem Soleimani, killed by a U.S. drone strike" - there is already an entry and an image of Soleimani in the Deaths section - we don't need the funeral covered here as well. Deb (talk) 07:49, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

well @Deb:, it affected iranian-american relationships so badly, to the point where it almost became a war, plus it was a picture in the event section before the collage was added. 4me689 (talk) 16:42, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

The funeral did? Come off it! Deb (talk) 17:47, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

2020 wasn't exactly the most pleasant year globally. Wikipedia tends to (and should) reflect reality. --BorgQueen (talk) 16:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

4me689 - Please remove this collage until you have consensus to include it. If you won't, I will. Deb (talk) 17:45, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

well @Deb:, what is your 8 events that you think should be in the collage. 4me689 (talk) 18:30, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

4me689 - There is no consensus that there should be 8 events, so don't try to force that outcome. Deb (talk) 18:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Well I'm not trying to force a outcome. I'll be ok with a collage with 6, or 7 pictures, though in my opinion i think that 8 is the best. 4me689 (talk) 18:41, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Lets let @TheScrubby:, @Jim Michael 2:, and @KoopaDaQuick: speak for themselves on this matter 4me689 (talk) 18:49, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Crew Dragon isn't important enough & the 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest is too domestic. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 21:56, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

@Jim Michael 2: do you have any alternatives,

also I forgot to ping @The ganymedian:. 4me689 (talk) 22:01, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Why would you remove the collage? Some events of 2020 have been significant and everyone would agree on that, such as the Beyrut Explosion or the COViD19 Pandemic. Unless you guys have really good arguments, I'm at least adding both of those back. --CodemWiki (talk) 16:00, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

I agree with @CodemWiki:, re-add the collage please, I added a customizable collage with both the Beirut explosion and covid-19 for the time being until we can all get this sorted out, the vote at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Years#Survey leans towards support for collages, so there's no removing them. 4me689 (talk) 20:16, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Even if that were true, everyone has said that each collage should be discussed and agreed, and this one hasn't been. So stop anticipating approval of your work and start discussing it sensibly. Deb (talk) 15:18, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

CodemWiki - with all due respect, as a very new user you can't be expected fully to understand the history or appreciate the principle of achieving consensus for controversial changes before making them so, whilst your contribution to Talk pages is welcomed, it is not enough to sway the argument. Deb (talk) 15:26, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

okay let's get everyone who said it was case-by-case basis @Chaheel Riens:, @InvadingInvader:, and @Dhrm77:, should the 2020 article have a collage. 4me689 (talk) 20:55, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

@4me689: - Canvassing again! Deb (talk) 07:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Debateable - 4me689 has pinged those who stated a preference for case-by-case approval, rather than those who supported blanket approval/disapproval. It would seem logical to call on them to do exactly that when the circumstances arise? That's how I read it, anyway. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:37, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

No. As soon as you start selecting people to inform (especially when you know that these are people who agree we should have collages), you are not inviting impartial discussion. Deb (talk) 12:42, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Except that's not the case. Although I cannot speak for the other users, I have not agreed to have collages, I've said that it depends on each case. Indeed - my contributions to this article so far have been to remove the collage not once, but twice - here and here. I know what you mean about canvassing, and although 4me689 may be hoping he gets agreement, that's not a given. As it happens, in this case I'm ok with the collage, but I'd like to see some more Euro-centric details added here before I'm happy, if my opinion is worth anything. Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:13, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes. We should be debating what exactly to include instead. Deb makes a good point that we should try to find something positive to include; 2020 wasn't ALL bad. InvadingInvader (talk) 23:19, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Yes. If 2020s has a collage of key events, perhaps 1 per year, individual years should probably have a collage of somewhere around 4 key events. Covid and its consequences (lock-down) seems an obvious choice. But on the positive side, it's hard to find an event that could be represented by a picture. Perhaps the discovery of TOI 700 d, an habitable exoplanet that is very high on the list of near-earth planets, was discovered in 2020, and is not mentioned in the article, yet. Of course, if that was event was to be chosen, only an artistic representation could be shown, since exoplanets cannot be directly observed yet. Dhrm77 (talk) 11:31, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Replying due to ping. I support the collage as seen in this edit.[1] It has a wide spread of topics, and does not favour any particular country. Crew Dragon and the 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest may not seem to be of import to some editors, but they are notable enough for articles, and they happened in 2020 - making them relevant to the article, although I'd probably remove SpaceX, and add in something a bit more European - but that's just me. Chaheel Riens (talk) 21:04, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

The RFC at Wikipedia:WikiProject Years is still ongoing, concerning whether or not to have these Collage images. We really should just stop everything, until that RFC is formally closed & a decision rendered. GoodDay (talk) 03:38, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

• 4me689 Please fix the captions on the "collage". It still says "clockwise", which can't possibly apply when there are only two images. This is making us look very amateurish. Deb (talk) 07:31, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

  Fixed 4me689 (talk) 14:10, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

2020 Collage candidate images and topic suggestions

Give your opinion on what topics should be included in the 2020 collage, cuz there's a Content dispute on the 2020 collage so here's a section for it

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  option A Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752
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  option B1 George Floyd protests
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  option B2 George Floyd protests
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  option C1 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest
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  option C2 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest
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  option D 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war
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  option E1 COVID-19 pandemic
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  option E2 COVID-19 pandemic
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  option F Assassination of Qasem Soleimani
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  option G 2020 Beirut explosion
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  option H 2020 Calabasas helicopter crash
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  option I 2020 Malian coup d'état
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  option J Zoom
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  option K Crew Dragon
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  option L Tigray War

feel free to add a subject, pinging everyone who was on the last discussion @Deb:, @BorgQueen:, @Jim Michael 2:, @The ganymedian:, @CodemWiki:, @Dhrm77:, @Chaheel Riens:, and @Quake1234:. I will also ping the regulars, AKA @Wjfox2005:, @PaulRKil:, @TheScrubby:, and @MrMimikyu1998:. 4me689 (talk) 04:04, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

This discussion really should not be started until the RfC at WT:WikiProject Years has concluded. ~BappleBusiness^[talk] 02:53, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Hmm, I think all of them should be featured and included in collages. They are the most important events in year history. -- 204.129.232.195 (talk) 16:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Maybe you didn't read what it says. There is no proposal to include them all. Deb (talk) 16:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Maybe you aren't paying attention. 204.129.232.195 proposed just that. Dhrm77 (talk) 12:59, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

J, E1, K, L, and G. I think the media such as movies, video games, and TV shows and education, especially schools should be included in the collage images. It would be better though. -- 204.129.232.195 (talk) 21:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

A, B1, C1, C2, G, E, K,, and I, those are the photos I chose. But more in depth is required. Others have agreed that some are correct. —2600:1010:B12A:AE74:30BE:A78E:1D4C:56E8 (talk) 20:30, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@4me689 My suggest topics for this collage is from option A to E2. Nothing else to say about that. -- 2601:205:C001:EA0:DD9D:F980:1B2C:6117 (talk) 21:23, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Some comments:

1. We've already discussed this above.
2. To reiterate what Jim Michael 2 said above, "Crew Dragon isn't important enough & the 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest is too domestic."
3. 2020 Calabasas helicopter crash is a US domestic event
4. An image of Qasem Soleimani's funeral is not meaningful, and his image is already in the deaths section
5. Your chosen image of Zoom won't work because it would need to be reduced for the collage and this will render it meaningless
6. You are canvassing again, and you've repeatedly restored the collage without addressing the issues. If you want to get blocked from all Year pages, you are going the right way about it. Deb (talk) 05:27, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

A, B1, D, E1, F, G, I & L. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 09:10, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Seconded. TheScrubby (talk) 23:51, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

B1, C1, E1, F, G, J, K & L CodemWiki (talk) 09:37, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

How many warnings do we have to give 4me689? They have been warned numerous times to stop canvassing and their various methods of disruptive editing, yet they continue. ~BappleBusiness^[talk] 03:01, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 November 2022

Are you going to add collages with picture representing the defining moments of main years including the pandemic and protests back to the article "2020"?

Thank you. 2601:205:C001:EA0:D2E:95F5:7A12:B8D7 (talk) 05:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Aoidh (talk) 07:21, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

No. Not until there is consensus. Deb (talk) 08:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Denying the Numbers

02/02/2020 was a Universal Palindrome Day, a rare calendrical phenomenon that usually only occurs every 1000 years. Many articles persisted about it at the time, people held parties to honor it and there were mathematical celebrations the world over. Stop denying this. You are censoring reality. Numbers matter.

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51349158 2.99.77.65 (talk) 15:41, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2022

Another moment to added to this 2020 year article:

• "November 25 – Penguin Random House agrees to acquire rival publisher Simon & Schuster from ViacomCBS for US$2.175 billion."

I found the information with those sources. This should be on this article. -- 2601:205:C001:EA0:DD9D:F980:1B2C:6117 (talk) 19:53, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

The event is not significant enough for a main year article. 2020 in the United States is a better fit. PaulRKil (talk) 20:26, 22 November 2022 (UTC)