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:Do you mean "all" or "each"? Because a single massive table would be awkward to navigate; better to have a separate table for each section. Additionally, "assassin" is only appropriate if the "type" is "assassination", so doesn't really work as a column title for every entry. "Perpetrator(s)" could work instead. It might be better to have only 1 location column, rather than both "country" and "place"; the list doesn't get that specific, and too many columns would stop the table fitting on 1 page. To be honest, I'm not sure what advantage a table would have over the current list. A table could be sorted, but I can't really see how sorting by columns other than "year" would be helpful. Lists are much easier to edit than tables and moving everything into a table would take a lot of work. – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 09:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC) |
:Do you mean "all" or "each"? Because a single massive table would be awkward to navigate; better to have a separate table for each section. Additionally, "assassin" is only appropriate if the "type" is "assassination", so doesn't really work as a column title for every entry. "Perpetrator(s)" could work instead. It might be better to have only 1 location column, rather than both "country" and "place"; the list doesn't get that specific, and too many columns would stop the table fitting on 1 page. To be honest, I'm not sure what advantage a table would have over the current list. A table could be sorted, but I can't really see how sorting by columns other than "year" would be helpful. Lists are much easier to edit than tables and moving everything into a table would take a lot of work. – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 09:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC) |
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::I mean a single table as this article doesn't contain too many items as far. Besides sorting, IMO a table is more readable. Moreover, it would promote adding the missing info which is likely to be forgotten in the case of a list. As a country, I mean a given monarchy - it's totally separate from location as the location may be either within the given monarchy or outside it or possibly in some disputed area. I'm ok with "Perpetrator(s)". [[User:Grillofrances|Grillofrances]] ([[User talk:Grillofrances|talk]]) 16:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC) |
::I mean a single table as this article doesn't contain too many items as far. Besides sorting, IMO a table is more readable. Moreover, it would promote adding the missing info which is likely to be forgotten in the case of a list. As a country, I mean a given monarchy - it's totally separate from location as the location may be either within the given monarchy or outside it or possibly in some disputed area. I'm ok with "Perpetrator(s)". [[User:Grillofrances|Grillofrances]] ([[User talk:Grillofrances|talk]]) 16:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC) |
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:::I can't say I agree at all. This list several pages long; it's massive. A table would pad it out with column separators and such, which would make it even longer. It would no subheadings and no TOC; it would just a massive wall of data. I sincerely don't understand how you could possibly think that would be ''more'' readable than the list as it is now. |
:::I can't say I agree at all. This list is several pages long; it's massive. A table would pad it out with column separators and such, which would make it even longer. It would no subheadings and no TOC; it would just a massive wall of data. I sincerely don't understand how you could possibly think that would be ''more'' readable than the list as it is now. |
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:::Do you mean "monarch of..." vs "was killed in..."? Fair enough, in that case; I can see how two column headings might be warranted for that. – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 17:11, 6 December 2022 (UTC) |
:::Do you mean "monarch of..." vs "was killed in..."? Fair enough, in that case; I can see how two column headings might be warranted for that. – [[User:Scyrme|Scyrme]] ([[User talk:Scyrme|talk]]) 17:11, 6 December 2022 (UTC) |
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What do you think about creating a table with the following columns?
- year
- monarch
- country
- place
- type (coup, murder, execution, battle)
- assassin
- notes
I propose removing the current sections, inserting a single table for all the centuries. Grillofrances (talk) 04:24, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- Do you mean "all" or "each"? Because a single massive table would be awkward to navigate; better to have a separate table for each section. Additionally, "assassin" is only appropriate if the "type" is "assassination", so doesn't really work as a column title for every entry. "Perpetrator(s)" could work instead. It might be better to have only 1 location column, rather than both "country" and "place"; the list doesn't get that specific, and too many columns would stop the table fitting on 1 page. To be honest, I'm not sure what advantage a table would have over the current list. A table could be sorted, but I can't really see how sorting by columns other than "year" would be helpful. Lists are much easier to edit than tables and moving everything into a table would take a lot of work. – Scyrme (talk) 09:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
- I mean a single table as this article doesn't contain too many items as far. Besides sorting, IMO a table is more readable. Moreover, it would promote adding the missing info which is likely to be forgotten in the case of a list. As a country, I mean a given monarchy - it's totally separate from location as the location may be either within the given monarchy or outside it or possibly in some disputed area. I'm ok with "Perpetrator(s)". Grillofrances (talk) 16:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- I can't say I agree at all. This list is several pages long; it's massive. A table would pad it out with column separators and such, which would make it even longer. It would no subheadings and no TOC; it would just a massive wall of data. I sincerely don't understand how you could possibly think that would be more readable than the list as it is now.
As a country, I mean a given monarchy - it's totally separate from location as the location may be either within the given monarchy or outside it or possibly in some disputed area.
- Do you mean "monarch of..." vs "was killed in..."? Fair enough, in that case; I can see how two column headings might be warranted for that. – Scyrme (talk) 17:11, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
- I mean a single table as this article doesn't contain too many items as far. Besides sorting, IMO a table is more readable. Moreover, it would promote adding the missing info which is likely to be forgotten in the case of a list. As a country, I mean a given monarchy - it's totally separate from location as the location may be either within the given monarchy or outside it or possibly in some disputed area. I'm ok with "Perpetrator(s)". Grillofrances (talk) 16:15, 6 December 2022 (UTC)