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Existing articles on dance pop or singing/vocal groups could just as well have a section with a much more condensed and concise version of the material here under the new and more appropriate heading: Male groups. [[User:Alialiac|Alialiac]] ([[User talk:Alialiac|talk]]) 14:17, 15 August 2022 (UTC) |
Existing articles on dance pop or singing/vocal groups could just as well have a section with a much more condensed and concise version of the material here under the new and more appropriate heading: Male groups. [[User:Alialiac|Alialiac]] ([[User talk:Alialiac|talk]]) 14:17, 15 August 2022 (UTC) |
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:{{re|Alialiac}} Oppose. Wikipedia uses [[WP:COMMONNAME]], even if the common name is not official (e.g. [[Mueller report]]) or a misnomer (e.g. [[Spanish flu]]). [[WP:RS|Reliable sources]] commonly refer to such groups as "boy bands", not "male dance pop groups" or "male singing groups", so that is the term Wikipedia should use. [[User:Bennv123|Bennv123]] ([[User talk:Bennv123|talk]]) 14:30, 15 August 2022 (UTC) |
:{{re|Alialiac}} Oppose. Wikipedia uses [[WP:COMMONNAME]], even if the common name is not official (e.g. [[Mueller report]]) or a misnomer (e.g. [[Spanish flu]]). [[WP:RS|Reliable sources]] commonly refer to such groups as "boy bands", not "male dance pop groups" or "male singing groups", so that is the term Wikipedia should use. [[User:Bennv123|Bennv123]] ([[User talk:Bennv123|talk]]) 14:30, 15 August 2022 (UTC) |
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The linked Wikipedia page for Shinee's Jonghyun leads to a Jonghyun from another K-pop group. [[Special:Contributions/112.199.141.209|112.199.141.209]] ([[User talk:112.199.141.209|talk]]) 20:50, 19 December 2022 (UTC) |
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what is a "Westlife" and why is it listed more prominently than 98°?
Vocal groups vs. Kpop
In the introduction, it says that boybands are vocal groups, but that is often untrue for Kpop. While purely vocal groups exist, the majority are a mix of vocal+rap groups. 2003:CA:3F1A:8A00:A168:6FFF:83C3:E7EB (talk) 20:09, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
+addition: In fact, there are also many groups that are more rap focused, such as BTS in their early years. Ktaec (talk) 20:13, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Songwriting and producing in Kpop
It's not uncommon for Kpop groups to have members who extensively write and produce for the group, as well as for other artists, such as Bigbang's G-Dragon (primary writer and producer), BTS's RM (primary lyricist) and SUGA (producer, has produced major hits for other artists) and Seventeen's Woozi (primary songwriter and producer), who are among the groups mentioned in the article. Ktaec (talk) 20:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- You need to find a WP:SECONDARY source talking about this. Binksternet (talk) 21:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
The Beatles are the best selling boyband
The Beatles are literally a boy band not just group, and they are the best selling boygroup of all time same as such other rock groups like Queen, yet they're not on the list. Moonlight Entm (talk) 05:52, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
The Beatles were not and are not a "boy band". This is why the phrase "boy band" is stupid and meaningless and should be tossed out.
The Beatles were a band of four hugely talented men (not boys) whose musical complexity could never be compared to a simple dance pop/vocal group act like Backstreet Boys or One Direction. Also, The Beatles were not deliberately concocted, they formed on their own. They have nothing in common with what's referred to as "boy bands".
Please don't be so foolish as to not get this distinction.
Alialiac (talk) 14:28, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
"Boy band" is a misnomer. Should be altered.
Since most often members of these groups are over the age of eighteen, it means they're not "boys'.
And in the realm of popular music, a "band" refers to people in a group who play musical instruments. Since most male dance pop groups don't have members who playing instruments, it's inaccurate to call them "bands"
Seems to me the phrase "boy band" should be put into the dustbin of history where it belongs (sorry but it's not 1999 anymore) .
Recommend changing all instances of "boy band" in the article, including of course the title of the article itself, to male dance pop group, or male singing groups.
Existing articles on dance pop or singing/vocal groups could just as well have a section with a much more condensed and concise version of the material here under the new and more appropriate heading: Male groups. Alialiac (talk) 14:17, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Alialiac: Oppose. Wikipedia uses WP:COMMONNAME, even if the common name is not official (e.g. Mueller report) or a misnomer (e.g. Spanish flu). Reliable sources commonly refer to such groups as "boy bands", not "male dance pop groups" or "male singing groups", so that is the term Wikipedia should use. Bennv123 (talk) 14:30, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Mentioned name links to wrong Wikipedia page
The linked Wikipedia page for Shinee's Jonghyun leads to a Jonghyun from another K-pop group. 112.199.141.209 (talk) 20:50, 19 December 2022 (UTC)