Talk:Kim Il Sung

Romaja

Hi, please change Kim Il-seong and Kim Seong-ju in the Revised Romanization Korean name infoboxes to Gim Il-seong and Gim Seong-ju, because ㄱ is romanized as "g" in RR. Thanks. 24.61.83.139 (talk) 20:48, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Done. This is how RR strictly speaking works, even though sources following RR also habitually spell it as Kim. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 09:57, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

A minor historical detail, but how was the romanization of 성 as "Sung" (which does not match any of the regular Romanization systems that I'm aware of) decided upon originally? Muzilon (talk) 01:15, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

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Error with children

The 'Personal life' section lists his children with Kim Song-ae as Kim Yong-il, Kim Kyong-il and Kim Pyong-il, however the infobox (and Kim Song-ae's article) list Kim Kyong-jin instead of Kim Kyong-il. NK Leadership Watch list Kim Kyong-jin (although not the one linked to as they have widely differing birth years), however that webpage gives birth years for them all (Kyong-jin 1951, Pyong-il 1954, Yong-il 1955) but then contradicts two of them later (Kyong-jin 1953, Yong-il 1957). The Kim family (North Korea) article says their children are Kim Kyong-il (1951), Kim Pyong-il (1953) and Kim Yong-il (1955) with Time magazine as a source, however Kim Pyong-il's article lists his birth year as 1954. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 18:02, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Kim Il-sung's funeral was held on 19 Jul 94, not 17 Jul

It was originally scheduled on 17 Jul, but delayed till the 19th. Sources: [1] and [2] ZKang123 (talk) 03:55, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

 Done CentreLeftRight ✉ 06:02, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2022

I want to replace the 1950 portrait with the official portrait. Idonotwanttoleakmyipadress (talk) 15:31, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done for now: The image would have to be uploaded, and have an acceptable license. I assume North Korea's copyright isn't compatible with Wikpedia. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:40, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Kim Il-sung's posthumous portrait is available on Wikimedia Commons, but photographs of an article's subject are preferred over drawn reproductions. Thus, this request should be declined regardless. Yue🌙 07:00, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Classified CIA on Kis identity

https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80-00809A000600270269-4.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.25.210.75 (talk) 07:28, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Unevaluated information. We've already adequately covered this issue in the article.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:13, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

This talk page, and the article itself, does not adequately cover the topic or possibility that Kim may have in fact taken the identity of another person named Km Il Sung. Couple this CIA doc with the BBC documentary, where we hear the words of Kim Hung Suk, who came from the same village as Kim Song Ju. When the Soviets were presenting the great and well known Kim Il Sung in Pyongyang shortly after the removal of the Japanese, they all expected to see a man in his 50's at least, not this person they already knew, known as Kim Song Ju, who was only in his early 30s. It seems we need to explore more on this topic. Could Kim Song Ju, before he was 18, have performed some of the exploits attributed to the famed Kim Il Sung at that time? Rockford1963 (talk) 18:41, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

It’s a marginal theory that the academic consensus soundly rejects. To add more than we already have here would create a WP:UNDUE issue. JArthur1984 (talk) 19:02, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

hardly marginal at all. we have some sources that reject, and others that suggest or point to Kim taking the identity of an older partisan leader (such as Kim Hung Suk). There is more that needs to be put in the article, so the reader knows it is still an unsettled issue. Kim may have in fact taken the identity of another. Let the reader decide. Rockford1963 (talk) 20:07, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

from Britannica.com: "After Kim’s release from prison, he joined the Korean guerrilla resistance against the Japanese occupation sometime during the 1930s and adopted the name of an earlier legendary Korean guerrilla fighter against the Japanese." Rockford1963 (talk) 20:46, 30 December 2022 (UTC)