User talk:JPxG/Archive22

"‎ Replace redirected template (Template:Pageviews -> Template:Annual readership)"

Why? normally redirects aren't bypassed * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:23, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

@Pppery: I was going to put an extremely simple template together at the title of the redirect, so I retargeted the incoming links. Upon trying to write my extremely simple template I have discovered that I am probably separated from it by a few dozen hours of learning Lua. So it goes, I suppose. jp×g 05:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

And this is why we sandbox first ;-) Primefac (talk) 12:03, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Signpost pages are now categorised by status

It's actually really trivial because we already sort them, just needed to add something to put them into categories. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3ASignpost_draft&type=revision&diff=1120601155&oldid=1120432276 There. Change the category names to whatever you want. D'ye want any other statuses? It currently sorts them as either Category:Wikipedia Signpost articles not yet ready for copyediting, Category:Wikipedia Signpost articles ready for copyediting, or Category:Wikipedia Signpost articles that have been copyedited. I've filtered the first of those categories to only include - well, it's technical how I did it, but basically it checks for "Next issue" in the page name, which removes a bunch of sandbox articles, templates, and long-dead article drafts from old incarnations of the Newsroom.

I haven't made the category pages yet, as there's not much point until they're renamed how you want. MAKE SURE to include {{Possibly empty category}} in the category pages or expect them to be deleted.

Sometimes I forget that I'm one of the only Wikipedians old enough to remember how to do these things. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 21:18, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

For the record, by the way, if something has a template that gets filled out to show status or to do something, it can probably be categorised by that status using similar techniques to this. Just need to put the desired category into the right "if" (or "yesno" in this case). Also useful for statistics. If, for example, you wanted to know if people were using the fullwidth=yes option, well, you could just add a temporary category (wouldn't even need to make the page for that category, really), give it a couple days to transclude to everything, get the numbers, and then delete the code putting it into the category Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 02:45, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

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Legal certainty draft

I've copyedited it, standardised its page name (Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Legal certainty) and added it to the list. We could probably put it in as "Opinion", but I'd say that's your call.

In other news, you might want to take a glance at the Essay I wrote, and see if you want it elsewhere (I'd have preferred to do that one as an interview, but, well - did you know I'm the only Wikicup winner never to have their win mentioned in the Signpost? Didn't want to miss this achievement too, and writing it is way easier than complaining about it until someone acts.

I saw some commentary on the Newsroom talk page that someone else has an essay they want to run. If you want to move it to another section, feel free. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 04:14, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

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News item about Wikipedia

If you haven't already seen it, here's an article for mention in the Signpost titled "No, Wikipedia is not colluding with DHS." DHS is the Department of Homeland Security in the U.S. [6]Smallchief (talk) 22:02, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Hope for RfA

I hope that you will make your RfA (Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/JPxG) go live soon. It has almost been a month since your last edit to the RfA, and the RfA comments here have already been archived to Archive21. Well, good luck when the RfA gets transcluded! Are you so busy that you forgot to transclude the RfA and follow the red instructions at the RfA? GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:57, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Before you transclude it, make sure to change "co-EiC" to "EiC" :) 🥒 EpicPickle ^{(they/them | talk)} 05:06, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

ANOTHER RfA? Well, I hope the RfA goes live soon. It's been a month since the last RfA had been succeeded, and well wishes for the same result. Sarrail (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Signpost

See Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom#Copyediting_notes, because I'm worried about keeping both updated
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
I think the following articles are highly unlikely to change, so can be looked over and approved any time you're ready: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/CommonsComix Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Essay Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Featured content Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/From the archives Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Legal certainty Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Opinion Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Book review Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Obituary Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Next_issue/Tips_and_tricks Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Pageview compression Articles that are mostly ready are: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/In the media: I worked extensively on this, and with all the towers of edits I made to the Galactica section - people kept pointing out sources and I was the one who largely worked them in - I think someone else would be best copyediting it. Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/News from the WMF Publishable, but might get some collaboration on it if we're lucky. Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/News and notes - Probably publishable as-is, but giving a chance for another lookover. Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Traffic report - Ends at the 18th, which is fine for publication really (19-25 seems a bit much to ask for with a publication date of the 27th), but only mostly ready since, well, y'know, it might have another week? Unstarted articles: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/On the bright side Since it's only one entry, I merged this into News and notes. Unmerge if there's other content? Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Recent research - I think HaeB tends to do this very last minute. No content at time of writing. There's no "From the team". That's your call. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600th FP! 20:11, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

I am on vacation and, regrettably, do not possess a computer capable of editing worth a damn. I had thought that maybe I would be able to edit worth a damn on my phone, but this was delusional thinking on my part -- I expect to be home either tomorrow or the day after, at which point I can sprint through all of this stuff at the last minute... jp×g 23:17, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Honestly, if it makes it easier, and someone else can help me (like, do a third to half) with Featured Content - by far the biggest Signpost timesink for me - I'm happy to help with whatever's needed. Just if FC goes badly, I can't do anything else that month. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 04:41, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

Signpost Recent Research

This appears to be our bottleneck this month. I'd say wait on it, but you're EiC. It does feel weird to publish something that's supposedly the same as another newsletter without much of the content. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 20:58, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Title change

Any reason for the title change? I rather liked mine and now my reference is gone... Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:22, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

I usually redo titles for publication but I can put this one back to what it was. I suspect that the brackets may pose some software issue later on, but whatever. jp×g 05:28, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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• News and notes: English Wikipedia editors: "We don't need no stinking banners"

• In the media: "The most beautiful story on the Internet"

• Interview: Lisa Seitz-Gruwell on WMF fundraising in the wake of big banner ad RfC

• Opinion: Privacy on Wikipedia in the cyberpunk future

• Disinformation report: Missed and Dissed

• Op-Ed: Diminishing returns for article quality

• Book review: Writing the Revolution

• Technology report: Galactic dreams, encyclopedic reality

• Essay: The Six Million FP Man

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• Recent research: Study deems COVID-19 editors smart and cool, questions of clarity and utility for WMF's proposed "Knowledge Integrity Risk Observatory"

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• Obituary: A tribute to Michael Gäbler

• Concept: The relevance of legal certainty to the English Wikipedia

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Just so you know, the blurb is in the vague style of Zork, one of the new featured articles. Title references the two lead images. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 05:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

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Signpost

Going to step back to avoid edit conflicts. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 10:40, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Oh, note you're only half-changing titles. In the Media currently mentions the AI spun off as its title on the page. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 10:47, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

On the DHS thing - I think if we pull too much from In the Media, we no longer have a lead story in it. See if there's enough remaining to have I.T.M. work on its own would be my philosophy. Might cause some ghost credits if we're not careful, though, like, I'm not sure if I edited things beyond DHS and Galactica, so I might get unneeded credit in the shortened article. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 10:50, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Oh, hey, just noticed, FPC now has enough certainty that I can finish that part of Featured content right after publication of the current. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 8.2% of all FPs. Currently celebrating his 600^th FP!} 10:59, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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Oh, so false accusations aren't a personal attack, but a snarky response is?

Quite. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 19:57, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

@NorthBySouthBaranof: I warned the IP as well, but shouldn't someone who has made 33,000 edits know better than someone who has made 49 in the first place? jp×g 20:16, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Those 33,000 edits have taught me that removing a post often causes far more drama than simply responding and shutting it down with a simple, factual riposte. And for that anon to drag in purported ArbCom drama... c'mon, JPxG, you didn't just fall off a turnip truck, they're certainly not a "new" user either. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 20:18, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

I think "go cry some more on 8chan or wherever you came from" goes a fair bit beyond "snark"; surely, if either of us had said that to each other, we'd have (rightfully) gotten our hides tanned at ANI within the hour. I don't think that the fact of it being some random IP should remove the obligation to conduct ourselves collegially. jp×g 23:15, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

When you are ready for RfA

Your RfA has been updated to use the "readyToSubmit" subtemplate. So, when you are ready, just enter your acceptance statement in the "acceptance" parameter and substitute the subtemplate as per the instructions. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:18, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your thanks

Details are on Talk:Twitter Files, but I’m pretty certain the problem was caused by my use of a horizontal rule within my post. The wiki engine must be counting horizontal rules. But, as you can see there, someone actually did purposely delete the post but all the rest seem to be that darned {{hr}}. Greg L (talk) 02:42, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

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Use care with indented templates

In Your edit of 02:19, 10 December 2022 (UTC) of Wikipedia:Village pump (policy), you introduced multiple instances of

:{{cot}}
...
{{cob}}

causing missing end tags and stripped tags lint errors. When you have paired tags like {{cot}} and {{cob}}, neither template should be on a line starting with colon (:), asterisk (*) or number (#), to avoid lint errors. Cheers! —Anomalocaris (talk) 20:49, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

@Anomalocaris: Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea those templates would go wild from being indented... as an idle curiosity, what would happen if they were inside a table (or inside other {{cot}}s)? jp×g 20:58, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

The whole point of {{Cot}} is to collapse paragraphs into one expandable horizontal bar, and you probably wouldn't want to do that in a table, even if it's possible. To my surprise, {{Cot}} tags can be nested, as shown here:

A "Cot" with a nested "Cot" inside
inside one cot A "Cot" inside another one inside two cots inside one cot after closing an inner cot

Outside all "Cots"

Cheers! —Anomalocaris (talk) 21:08, 13 December 2022 (UTC)