User talk:Eagleash

Will be editing on a slightly reduced basis for the foreseeable future. Eagleash (talk) 06:22, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

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Added this myself as it was not added when I joined the proj. and the links should be useful. Eagleash (talk) 13:18, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Peter Arnell

Hi Eagleash. My name is Joanne, I work for Peter Arnell. I see that you are an active member of WP:Brands and thought you might be willing to look at my edit request at Talk:Peter Arnell with some proposed additions, including his work on the Rbk brand for Reebok. Thanks! Joanne PA (talk) 15:50, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Request on 19:26:50, 6 January 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Pch0807

• Pch0807 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Challavaripalli (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Eagleash,

Thanks for reviewing the article. I have added this article about a rural small village. It doesn't have many references over the internet, the one reference that I added haven't been considered as reliable by the other reviewer. Please let me know how I can correct and publish this article.

Pch0807 (talk) 19:26, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pch0807: Hello, and thank you for your message. I note that there was a reference to a school website(?) but that it has since disappeared. If there is a school, it gives some indication that it is a populated place and therefore *may* be notable; it may not be enough by itself though. I do not think that the earlier reviewer meant to imply that the reference was not reliable necessarily – there were just not enough sources for verification. I note that you messaged them at their talk page but I have not seen a response. References do not have to be online but it does make it easier for reviewers to consider. I would think if there is a population then there will be something to support this, possibly census results or the like. Having said that I'm afraid that without proper sourcing an article will not be accepted. Eagleash (talk) 04:15, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Jack Wells-Morrison

One of his relatives must have had some inside info, as this was created yesterday. I moved it to drafts, but in case it needs to be moved back later and I'm not around... Spike 'em (talk) 12:41, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

@Spike 'em: Thanks for the 'heads-up'; I saw the team and considered for about half-a-second before deciding, well no. Eagleash (talk) 13:26, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Nigel Borell

Hi Eagleash! If you have time, would you be able to take a look at Draft:Nigel Borell a second time? I've worked with the editor to fix up the in-line references, and they've added a more content for notability. --Prosperosity (talk) 06:42, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding User:Rithikvinayakmravi/sandbox

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Another sandbox draft I declined... no idea what's happened there, just two decline notices at the page and nothing else in the page hstory. Eagleash (talk) 21:13, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Deleted article Comment of this comment's author

Eagleash,

The submission from my sandbox was indeed intended to be a Comment in the existing Wikipedia article "Original proof of Gödel's completeness theorem" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_proof_of_G%C3%B6del%27s_completeness_theorem ). I assumed, apparently incorrectly, that the people I submitted my proposed Comment to for review would be able to know its sandbox source and from that be able to determine its nature, so I didn't send them (they turn out to be you) details of that. On 2021-12-31 I put a description of my intended Comment on the article's talk page and asked for comments on it, but no one responded except Felix QW, who however did not make any formatting or technical content improvement suggestions back then, but did recently make one technical comment (praising as a "nifty idea" the article's obvious error that I explained in my proposed Comment). I did also put into the article a reference to the proposed Comment draft in the article's Talk page, but that was deleted with the explanation that references to their Talk page were not allowed in articles. Three weeks after I posted on the article's Talk page the request for comments on my proposed Comment and there had been no response other than Felix QW's, I took the bull by the horns and inserted the Comment into the article. Almost immediately Felix QW deleted it, with the comment that before reinserting my Comment I should discuss it on the article's talk page! The Comment itself contains all the useful discussion about itself that I can think of. Any suggestions? Dirsaka (talk) 10:04, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

@Dirsaka: Thank you for yor message. Articles for creation is not the correct location to propose changes to an article. FWIW, I am an 'AFC' reviewer whch does not necessarily require specialised knowledge on any particular subject. You did the correct thing in making a suggestion at the talk page but it was disruptive to insert your text in its entirety into the article itself. Articles present facts, preferably sourced and 'notes' and other comments within article content is unencyclopedic and amounts to 'talking' within articles. The other editor you mention seems to have some interest in the subject and probably the way to move forward now would be to contact them at their talk page or ping them at the article talk page. You can also use Template:Request edit at the article talk page to propose changes. Eagleash (talk) 12:52, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

The original article itself already contains an incidental Comment just below the Lemma which begins "Let k>=1. If every formula...", which Lemma states the conclusion of the induction on k argument. My Comment, on the other hand, is not incidental, it is central to whether the so-called "proof" is correct. There is hardly anything more nearly certain, and so a "fact", than a conclusion (correctly) derived from the rules of logic, as I think my Comment is. I listed two fairly advanced books as references for my comment, but all that is really required is the half-joking "Aristotle" reference for basic logic. While induction arguments can be very complex, the basic form of finite induction is simple, and the article's induction argument, which is hardly advanced mathematics, violates the logic of this form. Felix QW has already sent me a message about my Comment, giving two criticisms of it. I think both are wrong, and will reply to him with my reasons. He is not an expert on the article's subject, and suggested waiting until some expert comes along to discuss it. How an expert would know to visit the article's Talk page, unless he/she notices a problem with the article, is not clear to me, since no notification of the existence of an issue with the article, to be discussed in Talk, is allowed in the article. I am myself a semi-expert in mathematical logic, having passed my Ph.D. qualifying exam in that subject. Kurt Gödel is (was) a recognized authority on the subject, but was more than a little weird on that and other subjects; he might be wrong, and subsequent experts on it, such as Stephen Kleene, too much influenced by his reputation, which was largely due to his (Gödel's) incompleteness theorem. I'll probably wait a little while, then reinsert my Comment (unless Felix QW or some expert convinces me that it is wrong). If it is again deleted, I'll likely just let Wikipedia continue to have this obviously defective "proof". The article does have the virtue of accurately representing Gödel's original proof, up to where my Comment was, even if Gödel was wrong. Dirsaka (talk) 17:43, 22 January 2022 (UTC) My final attempt to get the format correct failed. Dirsaka (talk) 17:46, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

@Dirsaka: I'm afraid I have litle if any interest in this article and probably even less knowledge of the subject; my only involvement has been to decline a submission which did not present as an encyclopedic entry. To make it clear, Wkipedia articles do not 'discuss' the topic within the actual article (any more than any other encyclopedia would) but the talk pages exist to suggest ways of improving articles. If you have received no response at a talk page then 'edit request' will flag up that there is a proposed change. Or, you can post at the WikiProject talk page; you should find Wikiproject 'banners' at the article talk page. I would fairly strongly request that you do not reinstate your edit at the article as this would probably be seen as disruptive and could even lead to the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 18:52, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Articles for creation: sandbox (January 25) St Brighid's Day

Thanks a lot for the feedback. The reason I prepared this article is that topic is fundamentally different to imbolc. Imbolc is ancient pre-Christian festival which we know from texts such as Cormac's Glossary, while St Bridgid's Day is a traditional rural festival, eg. crosses and brideogs which we have data from around the 17th century to the present. We know St Bridget has a following throughout the medieval period but we don't even how the festival was celebrated until about 300 years ago. The two festivals are intertwined, although the extent is unclear, but nevertheless, one is ancient festival and other post-medieval Catholic festival. I have been discussing a need to split the article on imbolc talk since April and I got support from people such as Bastun. Others flagged this issue back in 2017 Aerchasúr (talk) 13:00, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Aerchasur: Thank you for your message; to split an article, there is not typically a need to submit a draft for review. Please see WP:SPLIT fo rmore information. If the split has consensus, it can be carried out and the draft abandoned (it will then be deleted after 6 months) or deletion can be requested via WP:CSD. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 13:11, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Randy Mavinga

Hey @Eagleash. Thank you for approving my article 'Randy Mavinga'. How long approx will it take until it shows up on google searches? Sorry for what may seem a dumb question, I'm fairly new to this haha.

Thanks a lot! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benpring112 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Benpring: THe article is still subject to new page patrol; it will not be indexed by search engnes until that has occured or 90 days, whichever comes soonest. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 00:18, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	I published my first article on 29 January 2022. Even though it was redirected, I wish to appreciate for expedited action and valuable guidance. I will do my best to do better with your guidance. Neelesh Pandiyath (talk) 05:07, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

" Draft: Yaşar Vurdem page Request: confirmation of translated page

Hello dear Eagleash,

Thank you so much for your helps on this page for my translation Turkish to English. I double checked page and writing this talk message for your analysis approval for page release. Please let me know if i need to change something on page if need.

Draft page (English): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ya%C5%9Far_Vurdem Original Source (Turkish): https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ya%C5%9Far_Vurdem — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacesaa (talk • contribs) 17:32, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Best regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacesaa (talk • contribs) 17:29, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Pallab Bhattacharyya (IPS) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pallab Bhattacharyya (IPS) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pallab Bhattacharyya (IPS) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Djm-leighpark (talk) 12:02, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

@Djm-leighpark: Thank you for the message; this item seems rather confused... I noted your ES at the draft page and moved the AfC in article space accordingly, to remove the 'IPS'; as you said, there seems to be no other topic of that name and the page wth IPS attached is currently a redirect as far as I can tell. Other than removing the DaB and a bit of clean up, I Have not had dealings with the item. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 13:08, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

Apologies. Standard Twinkle message. When I started the Twinkle AfD message it was on a page, when I hit publish (10 mins later) it was an redirect. I actually checked it hadn't moved before I published but for some reason I thought it hadn't moved .. hence mess which I hoped I've cleared up. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:01, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

@Djm-leighpark: Thanks; not a problem, it appears to be OK (AFAICT). Eagleash (talk) 06:29, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Zaha

Yes; no total rows are better than a misleading one. GiantSnowman 22:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Help request

Respected Sir, I published an article my first article on 29 January 2022. But it was redirected to draft. I worked on the same article and I wish to publish it again. Request for guidance please. I am an exserviceman of Indian Army, now homemaker and I am very much interested to contribute to Wikipedia. Request for valuable directions to publish my article successfully please.--Neelesh Pandiyath (talk) 03:54, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

@Neelesh Pandiyath: This appears to refer Draft:Ramapati Singhania (RS)? Please refer to the post at User talk:Neelesh Pandiyath#Draft:Ramapati Singhania (RS). Little appears to have been done to inprove the notability of the subject and it is of some concern that the first draft of this item was an exact copy of an earlier draft of Draft:Ramapati Singhania, including all the mistakes which had been corrected by others. That earlier draft was declined at least twice and then rejected. At which point you (presumably, as you admit to involvement in your OP above) moved it to mainspace, out of process. It was then sent to AfD (proposed for deletion) whereupon it was moved back to draft (again, by you or another account operated by you). I cannot really see that the item is worthy of a Wikipedia article as things stand and no amount of editing can overcome notability issues. Further, if you have not already done so please make the necessary declarations in respect of an additional account. The necessary link is in the post at your talk page. Creating a second account and then re-creating a rejected item is not looked upon favourably by the wider Wiki community. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 09:51, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Respected Sir, Thank you for your valuable guidance. I have only one account in Wikipedia. I collected data initially from "Everybody Wiki" website. I got help from my friend also. After getting your guidance, I am doing more research on the subject since I admire the subject's accomplishments. Since you mention the notability of the subject is an issue, I will hold for now. I will go ahead in the future only after you give me clearance. Thank you--Neelesh Pandiyath (talk) 09:55, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Request on 08:10:45, 14 February 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by JasonHolmes11

• JasonHolmes11 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Save Ferris (Hip-Hip Artist/ Music Producer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hey, I am trying to add an article "Save Ferris (Hip-Hop Artist/ Music Producer)"however, since it is an auto biography it has been rejected due to lack of notable resources. I have edited the article extensively now as far as resources go to hopefully comply more with Wikipedias rules. If this still isn't enough, I could really use some help because I am often confused with SKA-PUNK band "Save Ferris" since we share the same name. If a more experienced editor or someone could help me to publish this article it would be greatly appreciated to help my career. Thank you very much I look forward to resolving this problem. Thanks again

JasonHolmes11 (talk) 08:10, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

@JasonHolmes11: Thank you for your message. I have done a little 'tidying' of the item more inline with Wikipedia's conventions. However, there are still some pretty major issues with the draft. THe page was not declined as 'an autobiography with insufficient sourcing' as one issue but two separate problems. Autobiographical articles are strongly discouraged; see WP:AUTOBIO for more information and see this page for why they are not always a good idea.

The question of sourcing (I.e. notability) is also extremely important; the relevant guidelines can be found at WP:NMUSIC. Notability cannot be supported by MusicBrainz, Facebook, Discogs.com, Spotify, IMDb, Amazon, blogs or an artist's own PR and AllMusic only counts as support for notability if the site publishes a review of the album by one of its professional staff, and not if the album just has a purely WP:ROUTINE track listing.

As you are writing about yourself, you have a conflict of interest; please read that page and make the necessary declarations. Further, Wikipedia does not exist to promote an indvidual's career or for them to create 'profiles' in the manner of social media. As an encyclopedia, it reports on what has been written about a subject in multiple independent, reliable sources and has very little interest in what someone has to say about themselves.

I will also leave some relevant links at your talk page; please review tham carefully and finally, no amount of editing will overcome notabilty issues. If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to ask. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News

Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

• AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
• The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Gagandeep Singh Kenyan cricketer

Can I have get help from another writer for Kenyan cricketer Gagandeep Singh I can supply them with all the articles as reference if they wish on the mail address. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Princeguru90 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

I would like a writer to write for me the above naked personal Wikipedia article, I can supply them with all the news articles for there reference. Princeguru90 (talk) 06:52, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

@Princeguru90: Hello, the place to request creation of an article is at WP:RA. However, there is no guarantee that an editor will take up the request and there may be a considerable delay before it gets any consideration. By far the quickest way, if you have reliable sources available, is to create the article yourself basing it around the draft you have already created. I would suggest that you review the guide to article creation and the manual of style. A cricketer will be required to pass the notability guidelines; there have been some 'changes' at WP:NSPORTS recently and WP:NCRIC is now of little, if any, use as when I last looked at it, it only listed umpires followed by a paragraph about qualifying criteria which did not really apply to anything. I would recommend that you read some articles on similar topics to see how they are laid out and structured. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 12:19, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi mate, I have made the articles kindly have a look and help in getting sorted out pls Princeguru90 (talk) 14:21, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

If you are referring to Gagandeep Singh (cricketer, born 1991), I see the item has been proposed for deletion. As the subject has not played first class or list A cricket or any matches complying with WP:NCRIC, I cannot disagree with the proposal and therefore am unable to assist. Eagleash (talk) 23:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Reece Hannam

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About Draft: Jeyhun Ali

Draft:Jeyhun Ali (edit | [[Talk:Draft:Jeyhun Ali|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi. I need information about current situation of draft page of Jeyhun Ali. It is ready for publishing. When will the article’s draft version be confirmed in order to get article status? Sincerely Orkhan Juvarli (talk) 19:24, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Orkhan Juvarli: Thank you for your message; as far as I can see the page has not yet been submitted for review. If you feel it is ready for mainspaces, you can submit by placing {{subst:submit}} at the top of the markup. (Just what you see rendered here, including the curly brackets). This will produce a review notice; you will need to be patient as there is typically a large backlog. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 19:38, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Orkhan Juvarli (talk) 05:03, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

@Eagleash Colleague, I have a favor to ask of you. This article is available in three languages. Please, can you help me add them to this draft?

Azerbaijani version: https://az.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceyhun_Əli

Turkish version: https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceyhun_Ali

Russian version: https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Алиев,_Джейхун_Юсиф_оглы. Sincerely Orkhan Juvarli (talk) 05:21, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

@Orkhan Juvarli: Before going any further please, confirm whether this is an autobiography. If so, please see that page for why that type of article is discouraged and also here for why it is not always a good idea. Thank you. Eagleash (talk)

@Eagleash:: This is definitely not my biography. It is about one of the famous anchorman of Azerbaijan. Jeyhun Ali is a well known news present and journalist. His activities proof that he is an encyclopedic person. It is not information about a regular person. Having articles in 3 languages confirms that. Orkhan Juvarli (talk) 16:29, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

@Orkhan Juvarli: OK, thank you for clarifying; I have added the links. Eagleash (talk) 08:47, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022

New Page Review queue March 2022

Hello Eagleash,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently 812 New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All 848 administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing {{subst:NPR invite}} on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Great Moments of Change

A tag has been placed on Great Moments of Change requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

user talk page moved to mainspace, but can't be moved back

Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. PRAXIDICAE💕 13:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: Not sure what this is about; not an item I created and do not recall the pagename off the top of my head; looks like there's been some recent page-moving and it may be one where suppressing a redirect was not appropriate, something has been restarted in a location 'moved from', so I get messages later? Eagleash (talk) 15:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

It's from an incompetent editors page move fuckery. Sorry. PRAXIDICAE💕 15:05, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: Ah, OK, thanks. Eagleash (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Notice of article re-creation with prooof and draft deletion

Hi Eagleash, as you're already aware, a lot of new/inexperienced editors of WP — especially in Africa — are always rushing to create articles proof. Another user by the Gonnym did the same thing here to a a related stub article on an upcoming production in Barbie: Big City, Big Dreams. My point is that the article you helped in deleting/moving to draftspace titled 2023 Africa Cup of Nations qualification Group I on the simple grounds of proof per notability and verifiability are now in the past. By the end of this day I'm writing to you, you, along with Glane23 will thank me/back me up with providing proofs so as not to re-delete the article. A lot of Africans need this — if not you!! Thanks!!! Intrisit (talk) 18:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

@Intrisit: I cannot tell what you are asking for here? An article was moved to main without any sourcing; it was subsequently returned to draft, where it should have remained while being developed. However it was returned to main without improvement. I should have requested deletion at that point but gave whoever created the item another chance by moving it back to draft, where it was submitted twice, without adding sources and declined twice as a result. I note that it has now been declined for a different reason. I also note that you requested deletion for no valid reason and that said request has been refused. Wikipedia does not need an article on a tournament a year in the future, necessarily and does not base its content on what various groups of people might want, but on various valid criteria for the creation of articles. Eagleash (talk) 19:07, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

I haven't provided the sourcing yet myself — but apologies for rushing!! I just issued a notice meant for you and the WP admins here. Please don't take what I'm replying to you as a defense against whoever provided the unsourced article info, but I just couldn't stand an article like that moved to draftspace only on sourcing problems/grounds because of the AfC line which states that "worthy drafts take ages to be move to the mainspace." That's why I did that!! And by the way, I have the sources — my last 2 problems until I provide them to show proof are the easing of P2P blocks at my connection and merging those sources into that draft!! Again, apologies!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intrisit (talk • contribs) 6 June 2022 19:45 (UTC)

• Right... none the wiser really. Eagleash (talk) 20:51, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Sebastian Delfi

Hi Eagleash, Thank you for reviewing the biography on Sebastian Delfi. I have resubmitted the article with adjustments made by adding more references. If you have time to review it again that will be great! If there's anything i can do to make the article better your guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apollosouthpaw (talk • contribs) 23:38, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

@Apollosouthpaw: THank you for leaving me a message. Please link to any pages you wish to discuss on talk pages. I have had a brief look at the draft again and tidied slightly. Please note that Facebook and Transfermarkt should not be used as references per WP:UGC and WP:TRANSFERMARKT, respectively. I am still of the opinion that the sporting notability guidelines have not been met but will not 're-review' at this stage (having worked on the item a bit) but will allow one of my colleagues on the review panel to re-assess it. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 06:46, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Eagleash, thank you your message has been kindly noted and more references have been added as a result. I was hoping your colleague could re-assess the draft:Sebastian Delfi, this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you! Apollosouthpaw (talk) 13:04, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Oops e/c

didn't' mean to drive by here. The script failed on me as I was trying to decline after moving. Apologies for E/C. Bad script. NO cookies ;-) Star Mississippi 21:36, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Draft: Sebastian Delfi (2)

Hi Eagleash, thank you your message has been kindly noted and more references have been added as a result. I was hoping your colleague could re-assess the draft:Sebastian Delfi, this would be greatly appreciated! Thank you!Apollosouthpaw (talk) 19:23, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

@Apollosouthpaw: Thank you for your message; the draft is in the review system and someone on the review panel will get to it in due course; the review notice contains a comment that this can take some time as there is usually a considerable backlog. I am of the opinion that the subject does not meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT but as I say will leave it to others to decide. Eagleash (talk) 19:38, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Eagleash, greatly appreciate your comment. Sebastian Delfi, is a Australian former professional footballer in the Serbian Prva Liga (First League). We have added more then enough reference to cover the criteria of Wikipedia for a professional sportsperson. If there is anything to make this article better your assistance is greatly appreciated! Once again thank you for your quick response! Apollosouthpaw (talk) 12:34, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022

New Page Review queue June 2022

Hello Eagleash,

Backlog status

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

Backlog drive

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.

TIP – New school articles

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.

Misc

There is a new template available, {{NPP backlog}}, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:

Very high unreviewed pages backlog: 15713 articles, as of 06:00, 29 December 2024 (UTC), according to DatBot

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!

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On 1 July, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Redirect patrolling is not part of the drive. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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Request on 14:57:32, 12 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Kayzed4343

• Kayzed4343 (talk · contribs)
  • User:Kayzed4343/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Kayzed4343 (talk) 14:57, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

@Kayzed4343: I am not sure what you are asking for here. I have looked at the draft again today and as far as I can see there has been no improvement made to it. Eagleash (talk) 16:12, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thank you very much for fixing the references. I do not understand why it gave errors to me at first. Utku Öziz (talk) 14:52, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Utku Oziz: Thank you. It seems that part of the quote was moved on to a new line unnecessarily (line feed error msg) and in respect of writer names 'last' on its own is OK but 'first' on its own isn't. No writer names at all also works but maybe not recommended! Eagleash (talk) 00:07, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Purgatory

How did you even see that? I want to know what to look for so I don't have this issue again. dannymusiceditor ^oops 20:51, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

@DannyMusicEditor: The red error message in the refs section will state the position of the anomaly. Count the characters till you reach the indicated No. – the cursor will 'stall' and require extra clicks to get past the error. Erase and replace. Eagleash (talk) 21:07, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

I appreciate your work! Nitinbajaj2 (talk) 15:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@Nitinbajaj2: Thank you; happy editing. Eagleash (talk) 00:32, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

CopyVio and AfC

Try and include the url of the copyvio or copy of earwig report so that other reviewers can see what the issue is if a person comes to the help desk. I have also CSD article because it is impossible to easily remove the violation. Slywriter (talk) 22:46, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

@Slywriter: Which article or draft are you referring to? I can only recall noting one CV in recent reviewing and in that instance entering a URL in the field provided when declining. I do note however, that this doesn't always seem to work as it should. Eagleash (talk) 00:17, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

User:Mschusky/sandbox/Irving_Dilliard Certainly could be an issue with the Helper script. Slywriter (talk) 00:21, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

@Slywriter: Ah yes, that's the one. I was considering CSD myself as it was a reasonably serious vio; but I always prefer to give creators the opportunity to sort things out if they can. Yep, newer editors do tend to think help desk volunteers are psychic so a certain amount of searching becomes necessary! Eagleash (talk) 02:58, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

In anticipation of the new season...

Not sure if this is just a random oversight, but the Palace 1st team page has Killian Phillips listed (though he wasn't on the list of numbers they released a couple of days ago). In case it does mean something, I created Draft:Killian Phillips, and have already attracted some vitriol about it! Spike 'em (talk) 15:44, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Spike 'em: Wouldn't surprise me if it were a standard CPFC foul up; I know the name but nothing more than that. Vitriol? From whom? Anyway, I'll bear it mind; as an aside the website seemed to show only 2 squads (+ the ladies) when last I looked. Eagleash (talk) 16:21, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure he wasn't on the squad page when I checked a day or 2 ago (when the numbers were released the 2 lists seemed to match). The vitriol is on the draft talk page, it is more a personal dispute from someone I reported for socking, who thinks my spag could be improved! It does seem that renaming the U23s to U21s is beyond the web admins at the moment! Spike 'em (talk) 16:26, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

@Spike 'em: Almost WP:NPA, clearly personal but engaging or warning would be provocative, I reckon. As Bretonbanquet has been known to say 'they live amongst us'. Eagleash (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022

New Page Review queue August 2022

Hello Eagleash,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

Coordination

MB and Novem Linguae have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out. MPGuy2824 will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.

Open letter to the WMF

The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.

TIP - Reviewing by subject

Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.

New reviewers

The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.

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Request on 17:48:26, 7 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Mschusky

Draft:Irving Dilliard

• Mschusky (talk · contribs)
  • User:Mschusky (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello Eagleash, thanks for looking over my "Irving Dilliard" draft article and pointing out my copyright issues and your "Speedy Deletion" message of August 3 2020. I have attempted to fix those problems and created a Draft Irving Dilliard page. Prior to submitting it "officially" to Wikipedia for possible inclusion, is there a way to ask for editing / etc. advice? Thanks so much. Mschusky (talk) 17:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)mschusky

Mschusky (talk) 17:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

@Mschusky: Hello, and thank you for your message. I did review the page initially but it was another editor who nominated it for speedy deletion (see thread somewhere above this one). I have looked at the draft in its current form and tidied it a little. The copy-vio issues seem to have largely been addressed so you could, if you so wished, re-submit the draft for review. I note you have also approached Jimfbleak for assistance; it is not always a good idea to ask for help in various locations; not only can you be accused of WP:CANVAS but you may get conflicting or confusing advice. Writing an article is not always easy and there are lots of pitfalls that newer editors encounter. If you have not already done so, please see WP:YFA and WP:TUTORIAL for future reference. Happy editing. Eagleash (talk) 18:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your assistance @Eagleash. Apologies for my newbie-ness, including asking @Jimfbleak for assistance as well — I was not aware this was a faux pas and will refrain from asking multiple people the same questions in the future. I will also devote more time to the tutorials and other links you provided. Your time, attention and help is much appreciated! Mschusky (talk) 19:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)mschusky

@Mschusky: No problem; I have added a 'welcome message' to your talk page which includes some links which may be useful. Eagleash (talk) 09:03, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Sebastian Delfi (3)

Hi Eagleash,

It's been two months since our last message, hoping you're well. If you could have some one to review my trainers page as he was a professional footballer in Serbia from the years 2011-2014. His first reference from Wikipedia in 2011. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_football_players_in_Serbia#Iran Apollosouthpaw (talk) 14:32, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP message

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Invitation

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Request on 13:26:16, 25 August 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Wolvesblogger

• Wolvesblogger (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Daz Hale (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. Daz Hale, a good friend of mine and a BBC DJ, asked me to get a Wiki page together for him. Although I've edited the odd wiki page in the page, this is my foray into putting together a completely new page. I appreciate the quick response in getting back to my draft, but I'm struggling to find many other references online about his career, other than those I've found. Any help or advice would be most grateful.

Wolvesblogger (talk) 13:26, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

@Wolvesblogger: Hello, and thank you for your message. I believe your draft *may* have some potential but the sourcing falls a little short of what Wikipedia requires. Ideally what is needed is in-depth coverage in multiple reliable mainstream sources; IMDb is not typically acceptable per WP:UGC and announcements by his employers or local reporting may not be sufficient. Creating a new article (not 'page' or 'profile') can be difficult for 'newer' users and if you have not already done so, please read the guide to article creation and review WP:TUTORIAL. In addition as you have a connection to Hale you *must* read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make any necessary declarations. I will leave some links at your talk page which hopefully, will assist you. Eagleash (talk) 09:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Morning, sorry missed this message when I replied. Good to hear that at least the page has potential! I'll have a scout around to find some more more reliable mainstream sources, but I have struggled uptodate. I'll delete the IMDb link for a kick off! Wolvesblogger (talk) 10:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award for 2019

		The New Page Patroller's Barnstar
		For over 100 article reviews during 2019. Thank you for patrolling new pages and helping us out with the backlog! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:16, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Here is a barnstar to show appreciation for the NPP reviews you did back in 2019. We realize this is late, but NPP fell behind in some coordination activities. We are almost caught up. If you don't want to receive "old" barnstars, please just ignore this and reply to let us know not to send you any more. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:16, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP Award for 2018

		The New Page Patroller's Barnstar
		For over 100 article reviews during 2018. Thank you for patrolling new pages and helping us out with the backlog! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:28, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Here is a barnstar to show appreciation for the NPP reviews you did back in 2018. We realize this is late, but NPP fell behind in some coordination activities. We have just caught up with giving out deserved barnstars. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:28, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Jamie Muscato

I was about to rename the user page to Draft:Jamie Muscato (2) and then I see that you have marked that you are working with it. I am about to move/rename the existing draft, even though that will give it another 5.5 months. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:35, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Hi, thanks for the message; sorry if I got in your way. I cleaned up the '2nd' draft a bit and then renamed it to (2), coincidentally as you intended. It's better than the pre-existing item. Cheers,. Eagleash (talk) 19:41, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes. The first one will go away in two weeks. I was about to tag the two drafts for merge, but I concluded that there is no need to merge because the second one encompasses the first one. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:53, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Can you please help me in iran now they shut down the internet and auddenly this page is here im so sacred ! I wanna protect myself but i know nothing about wikipedia I started fashion here They jailed me Took money from Me and now they are killing me and im risking my life But i got from Nobel winner Patti Smith’s support to many more … Please help me to save this page I know nothing about wikipedia and i did not unserstand what you mentioned. Salarbil (talk) 12:22, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

@Salarbil: Hello and thank you for your message; I'm sorry but I am not at all clear as to what you are asking me for? I understand there are many difficulties in your part of the World at the present time but Wikipedia cannot really assist in this respect. My own involvement at the page has amounted only to fixing an error in a reference and adding a 'reflist' template (without which the references will not display correctly). I note that I have not left you any messages but that other editors have both declined and commented on the draft. If you do not understand their comments, please seek clarification with them; you can find their details within and just below the pink decline notice. Thank you and good luck. Eagleash (talk) 13:45, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive

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October 2022 New Pages Patrol backlog drive is on!

You are receiving this message because you signed up to participate in the drive, but have not yet reviewed any pages in October. We would love to see you over at the backlog drive! Buidhe 10:49, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Am reviewing but only draftifying so far! Eagleash (talk) 10:52, 4 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:William Vincent Wells

You wrote: "not sure why this has been blanked by a previously uninvolved account". The previously uninvolved account copied the content of the draft into article space and then blanked the draft. This was a copy-paste move, or maybe a cut-and-paste move. (In other words, it has the feel of plagiarism.) I will request a history merge and will warn the previously uninvolved account. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:30, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Aha, thanks; I did not pick up on that as IIRC it came up at CAT:AFC as 'without section'. Eagleash (talk) 20:38, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

I was tracking the category of drafts for which there is also a title in article space, and it came up there also. There are a variety of reasons why there is a draft tagged for review and an article. Sometimes the entry in article space is only a redirect. In that case, the question for the reviewer is whether to move the redirect to nowhere and tag it for speedy deletion so that the draft can be accepted. Another reason may be that the originator created two copies, in draft space and in article space. There are also various reasons for that. But in this case, a previously uninvolved account copied it from draft space to draft space. They then blanked the draft, and you unblanked it, and I tagged the article for history merge from the draft. In this case, I now think that the editor who did the copy-paste was cluelessly trying to move it into article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:48, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Draftin

Extended discusson which belongs on the article talk page

The following discussion is an archived discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the article talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. Dear fellow Wikipedian, I noticed you said in the edit summary that I should submit in AFC. Humbly, to inform you I've attained the auto-confirmed user right, as a result I'm not under obligation to submit my article in Article For Creation. I can directly publish in mainspace. If you have concerns regarding my page, please discuss those in the talk page. Point out what needs to be corrected, Rather than moving it to draftspace saying "not ready." Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bangladeshbatelion (talk • contribs) 10:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC) Bangladeshbatelion That you have the ability to do something does not necessarily mean that you should, or that it is a good idea to do so. Your account is barely a week old; you don't yet have the experience and knowledge needed to directly create articles. It's highly recommended that you run a few drafts through AFC until you gain the experience of having them accepted. 331dot (talk) 10:10, 6 October 2022 (UTC) (edit conflict) @Bangladeshbatelion: Thank you for your message. I was not the editor who moved the item to draftspace; if you disagree with their actions please discuss further with them. In addition it seems you copied, by C&P, the content from the draft, into mainspace. This is not permitted; it creates technical, attribution and copyright issues. And as 331 says above, you may have the right to create in mainspace but any items that are not up to standard may not be retained there. Please complete the review process. If the item appears in main again it may be liable to deletion. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 10:25, 6 October 2022 (UTC) @331dot, I appreciate your response. I understand what you're referring to. But technically, rules allows me to publish in mainspace, don't they? And as far as I've made myself familiar with the basic rules, the page is definitely suitable for mainspace. If any other editors thing otherwise or find some issues, they can address them on talk page, and or rectify those. My page is't something that's blatantly unsuitable for mainspace, so why is it being constantly redirected to draftspace? And editors saying "not ready". But elaborate why and how? And let me rectify those. What's the need to drafting the page for it? It can simply be addressed and fixed while on mainspace. And all the rules allows me so. I hope you understand. Thank you. Bangladeshbatelion (talk) 10:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC) Bangladeshbatelion I would suggest that, to avoid disrupting Eagleash's user talk page, that this be discussed on either the draft talk page or your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 10:22, 6 October 2022 (UTC) @Eagleash, I've left a message on the talk page of the editor who moved it to draft first. Aren't I technically allowed, or by rules allowed to move the draft to mainspace again? I will resolve the matter with that editor who moved it to draft. He didn't response. if anything is off the rule, just point it out, but they keep drafting it. And as far as I'm familiar, my page is definitely nothing that should immediately be draftified. If there's any corrections to be made, editors should rectify them or point those. All these can be done within mainspace. No need for draftifying it. Btw I appreciate your response. Peace. Bangladeshbatelion (talk) 10:33, 6 October 2022 (UTC) Bangladeshbatelion Again, just because you have the ability to do something, does not mean that you should. If you place an article in mainspace, it is assumed by other editors that you knew what you were doing, and if it does not meet guidelines, will be nominated for deletion. Wouldn't you prefer to avoid that and fix any problems first, getting the advice of other, more experienced people? If you don't want to do that, that is indeed your choice- but we are trying to save you some grief. 331dot (talk) 10:40, 6 October 2022 (UTC) @331dot, thanks for explaining. Peace. Bangladeshbatelion (talk) 12:44, 6 October 2022 (UTC) @331dot, @Bangladeshbatelion sorry for late reply, I will reply here, so all discussion will be in one place. @Bangladeshbatelion: You uploaded File:AvikAnwar.jpg as your own work. If you don't have any relations with the subject, how do you took the photo? I will note, same article previously created by Tamingimpala who is now block for paid editing, sock puppet etc. Usually new editor struggle when they first edit wikipedia, but you were able publish the article with one edit. That's impressive (& "hmm"!). That why i moved the article to draft page. On my talk page you said "I've attained the auto-confirmed user right, as a result I'm not under obligation to submit my article in Article For Creation", usually new editor do not know what is "user right". আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 13:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC) Please stop posting here; this discussion can be copied to a related talk page if appropriate. The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on a related talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Khangar rajput hai

श्रीमान जी आप से निवेदन है कि हमारा इतिहास ना छुपाया जाए कुं शैलेंद्र सिंह ठाकुर (talk) 04:54, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

@कुं शैलेंद्र सिंह ठाकुर: Sorry; English only. Eagleash (talk) 05:33, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello Eagleash,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

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Goodman

I changed his nationality / number, but I see you said he was listed as 52 on club site in edit summary. He's currently showing as 63, but was he previously listed as 52, or did you see that somewhere else? Also the club and PL both claim he is English, though this seems quite up in the air at the moment, as he is being courted by Canada too [1]. I have no real objections to changing him back to CAN, but hopefully it wioll become clearer soon by him actually appearing for Eng or Can at some level. (I also created a draft fot J-K G in case you didn't see that) Spike 'em (talk) 15:02, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

@Spike 'em: I looked at the website when he appeared in the squad on Tuesday. It was showing 52 then and I've just looked again and it still is, in the U21s anyway; but 63 in 1st team, where he Wasn't listed as of Tuesday. I know nothing about his nationality; I just copied his entry from the academy article and added or altered the number. No haven't spotted the draft. 15:34, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Mahomet Thomas Phillips

Hello! I recently found a draft for Mahomet Thomas Phillips, which you'd initially declined a couple of years ago and added references to it. I think it meets GNC now. However, I went a bit on automatic pilot and just moved it to article space, rather than re-submitting it. Would you be OK to take a look? Many thanks Lajmmoore (talk) 18:27, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

@Lajmoore: Thank you for your message. I do not recall anything about the draft but note that it has been improved. I have copy-edited it slightly and see that one of my AfC colleagues has also looked at it. If they had doubts they would have moved it back to draft or even requested deletion, It can stay in mainspace but is of course still subject to new page patrol. Eagleash (talk) 20:23, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Early end of the backlog drive

A few days ago, new page patrollers got the backlog to zero. Due to the unprecedented success of the backlog drive, it will be ending early—at the end of 24 October, or in approximately two hours.

Barnstars will be awarded as soon as the coords can tally the results. Streak awards will be allocated based on the first three weeks of the drive, with the last three days being counted as part of week three.

Great work everyone! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:50, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

NPP Backlog Drive Award

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	This award is given to Eagleash for collecting more than 10 points doing reviews and re-reviews, in the October NPP backlog reduction drive. Thank you for your contributions. Zippybonzo | Talk (he|him) 08:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

User:Mariano Guido Gosi/sandbox

You said that you didn't know what the title of this page would be. That is because it lacks a lede sentence. On a little more review, it appears that it is all about Callicebinae, which are a subfamily of monkeys. We already have an article on them, so I have declined the sandbox with the recommendation to merge it into the article on the subfamily. I agree that your comment was appropriate for an article without a lede sentence. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:41, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Yep. Eagleash (talk) 06:59, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Teoman Köprülüler

Teoman Köprülüler is a deceased but Genuine Person. He is My Father. FehmiMurat (talk) 02:40, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Dear Eagleash, In case you want to dispute my Credentials, i am ready to Present, but if your issue is based on Censuring Me thats a Different Case. I said i do not hate My Ownself. FehmiMurat (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

@FehmiMurat: Without a link to any items you may wish to discuss, I do not know what you are referring to at this point. Eagleash (talk) 06:59, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Tom Pryce FAR

Hi there; I wondered if you were aware of the fact that Tom Pryce is now at FAR, and, if not, whether you wish to contribute? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:27, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

@AirshipJungleman29: Thank you; I was not aware and although it's an area of interest, I don't have anything to add at the present time. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 15:06, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hello Mr or Mrs or Ms @Eagleash! Can you help me I am adding quotes in a source. Sometimes these quotes in the Books are divided so I do not write them in on single line, but press "enter". Is this wrong to do? I also see that you are in a health condition. I therefore wish you good health and continuation of your edits and service to our viewers. Utku Öziz (talk) 20:56, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@Utku Öziz: Hello, and thank you for your message; I am not sure what you are having trouble with but if you could point (link) to a specific instance I will try to help out. Eagleash (talk) 15:10, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Mike Caron edit

On your Mike Caron edit I see you did this, https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mike_Caron&curid=72290991&diff=1125318647&oldid=1125239960, Just mainly wondering whydo pages like Jace Norman or even other actors get instagram in their profiles? Magical Golden Whip (talk) 16:15, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@Magical Golden Whip: Thank you for your message; WP:ELNO suggests that ELs be kept to a minimum and that social media should not be included per WP:NOSOCIAL. However, where an article subject has no other online presence, it has become the 'norm' (but possibly without consensus) to include one major social media account where available. IMDb is also typically included. If other articles have 'excessive' ELs this is probably incorrect and should be rectified. Also, for information, other stuff exists. Eagleash (talk) 16:36, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Okay thanks. Magical Golden Whip (talk) 18:18, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Help request (2)

Dear Sir, you have rejected my draft. I am working on my page by putting in more details. Perhaps you could help me make it acceptable for Wikipedia. The new details could not be merged. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Dr. Koshy AV marsh 14:27, 21 December 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marshwiggle23 (talk • contribs)

@Marshwiggle23: Thank you for your message. Please carefully read the links provided at your userpage draft. They will provide you with Wikipedia's basic requirements. Please also read the links I will shortly provide at your talk page.

You also need to review Wikipedia's guidelines in respect of autobiographies and why they are not always a good idea. Please also review WP:COI and make the necessary declarations. I would also recommend reading and / or editing Wikipedia articles to gain a feel for how Wikipedia operates. Please note; new posts go at the end of talk pages. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:55, 21 December 2022 (UTC)

Dear Eagleash, Thanks, will try to figure it out. Thanks a lot for the prompt reply. Dr Koshy AV. marsh 17:33, 21 December 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marshwiggle23 (talk • contribs)

Draft:Will Adams (defensive back)

Can you help me with the citing because it is confusing and difficult. Thank you!

Ike Taylor Jr. Ike Taylor Jr (talk) 00:23, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ike Taylor Jr: Hello, and thank you for your message. I may be able to assist with the addition of citations but I would first suggest that you study all the links in the decline notice as there are several there which should help you. I am less able to find the necessary sourcing... I notice that there is a link to NFL stats in the infobox but that this does not reveal useful information. I regret that I am not familiar with NFL notability guidelines but in any event, due to some recent changes, the relevant information can now be found at WP:SPORTCRIT and 'local' guidelines must be considered secondary to WP:GNG. I.e. Wikipedia requires in-depth coverage in multiple independent, reliable sources. Professional athlete articles which rely greatly on stats. sites may not qualify for an article. Members of squads or rosters who have little or no 'game time' or are just starting their career are unlikely to pass the current criteria. Biographical articles without sourcing are most unlikely to be accepted. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 13:19, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Eagleash,

New Page Review queue December 2022

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The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

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Rejected Draft moved to an incorrect name

Hello Eagleash, I see you are a new page reviewer and recently edited Annamalai Kuppusāmy. This was actually moved from a Wikipedia:Rejected draft Draft:Annamalai Kuppusamy by a new user. The user had moved it to an incorrect name since the original name Annamalai Kuppusamy was WP:SALTED. They had also removed the comments and the rejected tag. The draft was a hotbed of political socks in the recent months. I don't think it is notable as the subject fails WP:NPOL. Where should I report incidents like these? I reported it at WP:RM/TR but I doubt that is a right venue for drafts. Thanks - SUN EYE 1 17:50, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

@Suneye1: Oh right thanks for spotting that; notability is borderline at best which was why I did not mark it as reviewed. You could report it to ANI or SPI but if you have Twinkle enabled, I would suggest sending it to AfD with a brief run down of the history / problems. Eagleash (talk) 18:00, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

contributor who appears to have a close connection with its subject?

Dear Eagleash, I've just noticed that you added a template that makes the text state that "A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject" to the draft:Marko_E._Weigert and I realised that this must mean me, may I ask, why you did this? Thanks, User:Bibergroupie. 20:11, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

@Bibergroupie: No, not you; the user who 'out of the blue', recently moved the item out of draft appears to have the same surname (Pelleg) as someone mentioned in the article. A little heavy-handed maybe but needed to be noted in some way. Just for clarification purposes, do you have any connection to the subject? Eagleash (talk) 19:25, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Well I am a fan of his work in my town and I wanted to create this article to make a sort of a gift as a token of my appreciation, if that counts. However I really did my best to rely on objective sources and only state what I found in them and I don't believe I included any personal opinions or anything like that, which is why I was surprised to see that remark, which I understood to mean me, because the other user is not a major contributor to the article. If you didn't mean me, then in my opinion the statement that appears because of that template is wrong, so maybe there is another template that expresses what you wanted to point out without generating a false message? Unless there is something in the text of the article that you feel justifies assuming a close connection between me and Mr. Weigert. User:Bibergroupie. (talk) 23:29, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

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Dear Eagleash,

Thank for your work with the knowledge falsification entry. I noticed that the draft approved by publication through AfC inadvertently included editorial comments left from the first round of reviews. I've removed those comments and selected the option to have the article moved back into main. Thank you again for catching the mistake. All is well now.

Best regards,

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