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map please

can someone put a map here, please. Jackzhp 01:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to put a map here but have no idea how to do it. Can anyone help - Great Laker, author.

You can e-mail it to me and I'll upload it for you. Click on my name in the link at the end of this comment and use the "email this user" link on the page that appears (the email link is on the left, you'll have to hunt around for it). Maury (talk) 19:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

extent of the belt

The article currently says the belt extends over 120,000 square kilometres (46,000 sq mi) -- which is more than 10 % of all Ontario. It would make the belt several times larger than Algonquin Park. Is this really true? Geo Swan (talk) 15:35, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. Keep in mind a significant portion also lies in Quebec. The built-up area of northern Quebec is a potent illustration of the different styles of agricultural expansion that occurred in Ontario and Quebec during these periods. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:35, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I should also point out that the entire belt is 70,000 sq mi, not 46,000. That's just the Ontario portion, the vast majority of which is undeveloped. see this. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:42, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I had to smile at this. Geo, you are falling into what is a near-universal Southern-Ontario mistake - one we Northerners have smiled at and been cursed by for decades. Modern online maps often just cut off huge chunks of the North. But Ontario paper road maps always had Southern Ontario on one side and Northern Ontario on the other. Southerners never noticed that the two sides are entirely different scales. You mention Algonquin Park: it's at the edge of the map (top right on he Southern side) where it takes up a big chunk. Turn over the map and notice the teeny-tiny park at the bottom of the map? That's Algonquin.

An example of the curse: I was once reassured by a Toronto supervisor that my work in Timmins was going to be getting support from Thunder Bay; he was (typically) stunned when I explained to him that Thunder Bay is farther west from Timmins than Toronto is south.

Like many Northerners (and not just curlers (Northern in-joke)) I am firmly of the belief that the North will never thrive until we are able to form our own separate province to control and benefit from our own resources, beyond the control of Imperial Toronto. We might even have to exploit our western border with the USA to move beyond the control of Imperial Ottawa. We are simply too different from the south in every way and our small population ensures that we are always, essentially, taxed utterly without representation. There has been no democracy for the North. alacarte (talk) 19:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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 :Yup. Keep in mind a significant portion also lies in Quebec. The built-up area of northern Quebec is a potent illustration of the different styles of agricultural expansion that occurred in Ontario and Quebec during these periods. [[User:Maury Markowitz|Maury Markowitz]] ([[User talk:Maury Markowitz|talk]]) 17:35, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 :I should also point out that the entire belt is 70,000 sq mi, not 46,000. That's just the Ontario portion, the vast majority of which is undeveloped. [http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1541-0064.1966.tb00530.x/abstract see this]. [[User:Maury Markowitz|Maury Markowitz]] ([[User talk:Maury Markowitz|talk]]) 17:42, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
-:I had to smile at this.  Geo, you are falling into what is a near-universal Southern-Ontario mistake  - one we Northerners have smiled at and been cursed by for decades. Modern online maps often just cut off huge chunks of the North. But Ontario paper road maps always had Southern Ontario on one side and Northern Ontario on the other. Southerners never noticed that the two sides are entirely different scales. You mention Algonquin Park: it's at the edge of the map (top left on he Southern side) where it takes up a big chunk. Turn over the map and notice the teeny-tiny park at the bottom of the map? That's Algonquin.
+:I had to smile at this.  Geo, you are falling into what is a near-universal Southern-Ontario mistake  - one we Northerners have smiled at and been cursed by for decades. Modern online maps often just cut off huge chunks of the North. But Ontario paper road maps always had Southern Ontario on one side and Northern Ontario on the other. Southerners never noticed that the two sides are entirely different scales. You mention Algonquin Park: it's at the edge of the map (top right on he Southern side) where it takes up a big chunk. Turn over the map and notice the teeny-tiny park at the bottom of the map? That's Algonquin.
 :An example of the curse: I was once reassured by a Toronto supervisor that my work in Timmins was going to be getting support from Thunder Bay; he was (typically) stunned when I explained to him that Thunder Bay is farther west from Timmins than Toronto is south.
 :Like many Northerners (and not just curlers (Northern in-joke)) I am firmly of the belief that the North will never thrive until we are able to form our own separate province to control and benefit from our own resources, beyond the control of Imperial Toronto. We might even have to exploit our western border with the USA to move beyond the control of Imperial Ottawa. We are simply too different from the south in every way and our small population ensures that we are always, essentially, taxed utterly without representation. There has been no democracy for the North. [[User:Professor alacarte|alacarte]] ([[User talk:Professor alacarte|talk]]) 19:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)