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== Parentage? ==
== Parentage? ==


What's the source for his mother being Matlalxochtzin? I see in Chimalpahin&mdash;if I read it correctly&mdash;that she was given/married to one of the (legitimate) sons of Acampichtli, namely Tlatolzaca(tzin). In Duran, Itzcoatl's mother is an (unnamed) slave from Azcapotzalco. I don't think that these are one and the same...? --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]<font color="#DAA520"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </font><small>''[[User talk:CJLL Wright|TALK]]''</small> 08:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
What's the source for his mother being Matlalxochtzin? I see in Chimalpahin&mdash;if I read it correctly&mdash;that she was given/married to one of the (legitimate) sons of Acampichtli, namely Tlatolzaca(tzin). In Duran, Itzcoatl's mother is an (unnamed) slave from Azcapotzalco. I don't think that these are one and the same...? --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]<span style="color:#DAA520;"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </span><small>''[[User talk:CJLL Wright|TALK]]''</small> 08:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


:OK, I've amended the infobox & text to reflect the ID of his mother as a (name not recorded?) Tepanec woman from Azcapotzalco, per those refs and the mods done at [[Matlalxochtzin]] article. There's still a possibility that some other primary source out there records his parentage differently, if so then I spose it can be mentioned also as a competing version of events. --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]<font color="#DAA520"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </font><small>''[[User talk:CJLL Wright|TALK]]''</small> 03:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:OK, I've amended the infobox & text to reflect the ID of his mother as a (name not recorded?) Tepanec woman from Azcapotzalco, per those refs and the mods done at [[Matlalxochtzin]] article. There's still a possibility that some other primary source out there records his parentage differently, if so then I spose it can be mentioned also as a competing version of events. --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]<span style="color:#DAA520;"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </span><small>''[[User talk:CJLL Wright|TALK]]''</small> 03:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::I'm sorry I haven't answered your query yet - I justv haven't been able to get time to investigate it. [[User:Maunus|·Maunus·<span class="Unicode">ƛ</span>·]] 05:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
::I'm sorry I haven't answered your query yet - I justv haven't been able to get time to investigate it. [[User:Maunus|·Maunus·<span class="Unicode">ƛ</span>·]] 05:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


:::No probs. It was only that the info had been added by Ptcamn, so I thought there'd be a good chance of some decent primary source somewhere which ID'd his mother as Matlalxochtzin, ie giving an alternative account to those couple I mention above. If anything does turn up, can easily amend. Cheers, --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]<font color="#DAA520"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </font><small>''[[User talk:CJLL Wright|TALK]]''</small> 06:17, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
:::No probs. It was only that the info had been added by Ptcamn, so I thought there'd be a good chance of some decent primary source somewhere which ID'd his mother as Matlalxochtzin, ie giving an alternative account to those couple I mention above. If anything does turn up, can easily amend. Cheers, --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]<span style="color:#DAA520;"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </span><small>''[[User talk:CJLL Wright|TALK]]''</small> 06:17, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

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Parentage?

What's the source for his mother being Matlalxochtzin? I see in Chimalpahin—if I read it correctly—that she was given/married to one of the (legitimate) sons of Acampichtli, namely Tlatolzaca(tzin). In Duran, Itzcoatl's mother is an (unnamed) slave from Azcapotzalco. I don't think that these are one and the same...? --cjllw ʘ TALK 08:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I've amended the infobox & text to reflect the ID of his mother as a (name not recorded?) Tepanec woman from Azcapotzalco, per those refs and the mods done at Matlalxochtzin article. There's still a possibility that some other primary source out there records his parentage differently, if so then I spose it can be mentioned also as a competing version of events. --cjllw ʘ TALK 03:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry I haven't answered your query yet - I justv haven't been able to get time to investigate it. ·Maunus·ƛ· 05:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No probs. It was only that the info had been added by Ptcamn, so I thought there'd be a good chance of some decent primary source somewhere which ID'd his mother as Matlalxochtzin, ie giving an alternative account to those couple I mention above. If anything does turn up, can easily amend. Cheers, --cjllw ʘ TALK 06:17, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]