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The result was Keep JERRY ^talk _contribs 19:06, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adlai Stevenson IV

Article is about former reporter and current media analyst of questionable notability. Speedy deleted per CSD A7, but overturned on deletion review to list on AfD. As this nomination is procedural, I am neutral. IronGargoyle (talk) 04:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, Adlai Stevenson is known in three television markets. Mike Dowling 13:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Notability is not inherited. The ONLY reliable sources seem to indicate his only claim to fame is that he is named after his famous grandfather. Well below notability threshold, WP:BLP1E doesn't even cover it. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 07:17, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Agree with above comment. Simply being a small time media personality with a famous name does not meet WP:NOTABILITY requirements. Guldenat (talk) 08:52, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, as the references provided in Adlai_Stevenson_IV#References indicate sufficient coverage in third-party reliable sources as to establish a presumption of Adlai Stevenson IV's notability per the general notability guideline. Such a presumption, being established through objective evidence, outweighs the subjective assertions of non-notability presented by editors supporting the deletion of this article. John254 12:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The sources provided seem to indicate they were only written because he shares his name with his famous relatives. Such coverage seems to be patently trivial. It would be nice to see some references that discuss him and what he does, otherwise, the article becomes "Adlai Stevenson IV had famous relatives, and he is named after them" and nothing else. Where are the independent sources that the REST of the information in the article comes from? If more sources could be produced, I would change my vote... --Jayron32|talk|contribs 04:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Although the sources given are print sources, that's not my problem unless Wikipedia instigates policy requiring all sources to be online. Based on what I see here, I believe this individual to be independently notable beyond his famous name, with the added kicker being his involvement with a television station in Chicago. The article does need to indicate which newspaper chain he now works for, and I will add a request asking for same. (Additional: in doing the preceding I noticed that the talk page had not been restored with the article, so I have done so.) 23skidoo (talk) 17:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This search shows you the first few lines of the cited article. Registration is required to see the rest, however. Picaroon (t) 03:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and cleanup per above. Bearian (talk) 17:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No opinion on the article as of now, but I'd recommend redirecting to Stevenson family over outright deletion if consensus is against retaining the article. Picaroon (t) 03:01, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep TV reporter in a major market, Chicago. Edison (talk) 04:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Professional career and sources provided satisfy the Wikipedia:Notability standard. Alansohn (talk) 08:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, notability is not inherited, otherwise case for notability is fairly weak. --Core desat 03:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete being a former TV reporter does not make one notable, nor does being a media analyst. What has he done other than been born to Adlai Stevenson III? Fails WP:BIO Teleomatic (talk) 03:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete NN as a journalist. Article uses his famous relatives in an attempt to bolster his very tenuous claim to notability Mayalld (talk) 22:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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 *'''Keep''' TV reporter in a major market, Chicago. [[User:Edison|Edison]] ([[User talk:Edison|talk]]) 04:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 *'''Keep''' Professional career and sources provided satisfy the [[Wikipedia:Notability]] standard. [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 08:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
-*'''Delete''', notability is not inherited, otherwise case for notability is fairly weak. --[[User:Coredesat|Core]][[User talk:Coredesat|<font color="#457541">desat</font>]] 03:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''', notability is not inherited, otherwise case for notability is fairly weak. --[[User:Coredesat|Core]][[User talk:Coredesat|<span style="color:#457541;">desat</span>]] 03:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' being a former TV reporter does not make one notable, nor does being a media analyst. What has he done other than been born to Adlai Stevenson III? Fails [[WP:BIO]] [[User:Teleomatic|Teleomatic]] ([[User talk:Teleomatic|talk]]) 03:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' NN as a journalist. Article uses his famous relatives in an attempt to bolster his very tenuous claim to notability [[User:Mayalld|Mayalld]] ([[User talk:Mayalld|talk]]) 22:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)