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The result was Delete both. Hut 8.5 19:24, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hichem Aoulmi

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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested without providing a reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:36, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following article for the same reason. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both - as they both fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Playing in a youth-international tournament is not enough to bestow notability - long-standing consensus and common sense confirm it. Giant Snowman 15:41, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep AC FAF appears to be a professional team in Algeria and these players are part of a major international game. I think that we want to delete these is because of how euro-centric the media around sports often is (in the realm of Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias), Sadads (talk) 23:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

AC FAF are not in the top or second division in Algeria, which are the two that are fully pro, to say nothing of the fact that neither of them appear to have played for the club yet. The nomination has nothing to do with eurocentrism and everything do with the creation being premature. A European with this resume (i.e. youth, but no senior international caps, and no senior club appearances) would be deleted without question. Sir Sputnik (talk) 23:25, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete both - no indication that either of these players has played at a senior level for a national team, nor for a club in a full-professional league. Being part of an international youth squad is not an indication of sufficient notability, as has been demonstrated on numerous occasions in the past. C 679 10:14, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both, quite clearly neither player meets WP:NFOOTBALL yet. Articles can be recreated easily enough later should either of them make it. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 12:37, 15 April 2013 (UTC).[reply]

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 *'''Keep''' AC FAF appears to be a professional team in Algeria and these players are part of a major international game. I think that we want to delete these is because of how euro-centric the media around sports often is (in the realm of [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias]]), [[User:Sadads|Sadads]] ([[User talk:Sadads|talk]]) 23:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
 :AC FAF are not in the top or second division in Algeria, which are the two that are fully pro, to say nothing of the fact that neither of them appear to have played for the club yet. The nomination has nothing to do with eurocentrism and everything do with the creation being [[WP:TOOSOON|premature]]. A European with this resume (i.e. youth, but no senior international caps, and no senior club appearances) would be deleted without question. [[User:Sir Sputnik|Sir Sputnik]] ([[User talk:Sir Sputnik|talk]]) 23:25, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
-*'''Delete both''' - no indication that either of these players has played at a senior level for a national team, nor for a club in a full-professional league. Being part of an international youth squad is not an indication of sufficient notability, as has been demonstrated on numerous occasions in the past. <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Cloudz679|C]][[:User talk:Cloudz679|<span style="color:#6A5ACD">679</span>]]</font> 10:14, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
+*'''Delete both''' - no indication that either of these players has played at a senior level for a national team, nor for a club in a full-professional league. Being part of an international youth squad is not an indication of sufficient notability, as has been demonstrated on numerous occasions in the past. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic;">[[User:Cloudz679|C]][[:User talk:Cloudz679|<span style="color:#6A5ACD">679</span>]]</span> 10:14, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 *'''Delete''' both, quite clearly neither player meets [[WP:NFOOTBALL]] yet.  Articles can be recreated easily enough later should either of them make it.  [[User:Lankiveil|Lankiveil]] <sup>([[User talk:Lankiveil|speak to me]])</sup> 12:37, 15 April 2013 (UTC).
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