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::::Here they talk about destinations going to be serviced and going to be terminated in the future. In these cases I completely understand the need for sourcing. However, when it comes to routes that have already been discontinued long ago, along with routes that have already existed for a while, for me it doesn't really make sense to not update any of them only because there is no secondary source. The flight to Nouadhibou by Mauritania Airlines hasn't flown for years as far as I can see (https://www.mauritaniaairlines.mr/index.php/vols/reseau-de-la-compagnie). Why let it stay on the wiki? [[Special:Contributions/81.173.79.58|81.173.79.58]] ([[User talk:81.173.79.58|talk]]) 17:14, 16 February 2023 (UTC) |
::::Here they talk about destinations going to be serviced and going to be terminated in the future. In these cases I completely understand the need for sourcing. However, when it comes to routes that have already been discontinued long ago, along with routes that have already existed for a while, for me it doesn't really make sense to not update any of them only because there is no secondary source. The flight to Nouadhibou by Mauritania Airlines hasn't flown for years as far as I can see (https://www.mauritaniaairlines.mr/index.php/vols/reseau-de-la-compagnie). Why let it stay on the wiki? [[Special:Contributions/81.173.79.58|81.173.79.58]] ([[User talk:81.173.79.58|talk]]) 17:14, 16 February 2023 (UTC) |
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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello Hey man im josh,
- Backlog
The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.
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A barnstar for you!
The No Spam Barnstar | |
Thank you for fighting spam! Fancy Refrigerator (talk) 17:59, 3 February 2023 (UTC) |
- I hadn't even noticed this was on my talk page til someone else posted here. Thanks so much @Fancy Refrigerator!! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:47, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
U.S or U.S.
Hi Josh. I may be wrong, but isn't it supposed to be spelled "U.S." rather than the "U.S" (without the second .) you're adding to the infoboxes? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:20, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oh no... I was working on testing with AWB and I apparently had a typo. I'll go through and fix my mistake now, glad you made me aware of it before I got too far in. Thanks Beanie! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:21, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Also, make sure if the person is no longer living, to add the "U.S." in the death_place parameter as well (because now a few articles, such as Andy Everest, list "U.S" in the birth_place but not the death_place). BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:29, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- That was something I wanted to do, but this was more or less an initial test run with AWB focused on 1 specific parameter (birth_place). I think it'll need some tweaking before I'm comfortable with it though. If and when I do get to that point I'll definitely tweak it so that I can also cover the death_place parameter as well.
- Thanks again for letting me know @BeanieFan11, I went back and fixed all the affected pages. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:35, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- Also, make sure if the person is no longer living, to add the "U.S." in the death_place parameter as well (because now a few articles, such as Andy Everest, list "U.S" in the birth_place but not the death_place). BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:29, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Brackenbury village
Literally was trying to add in the link when you deleted it. Here’s the link sort it out yourself https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/feb/06/rise-in-wood-burners-in-uk-likely-creating-new-pollution-hotspots-in-affluent-areas Simonthevmbarbarian (talk) 18:14, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
User talk:Mouseketeerlonnie
Hi Hey man im Josh. This is Diane. aka Floomerfelt. I edit Lonnie Burr's page and am connecting with you to let you know he didn't intend anything negative. He is 100% a not-into-computers guy, who apparently decided to try something on his own. I'm not even sure what it was he did! I'm still trying to get smart enough to add all of the necessary footnotes to verify the information's accuracy. But while I'm a whiz at Word, Google and some fundraising programs, Wikipedia footnotes protocol still has me stumped. Maybe it's because I'm almost 78?? Anyway, Sorry for the confusion and if there is something Lonnie did by accident that needs to be undone, just let me know how and I will handle it. Thanks, Josh. Floomerfelt (talk) 23:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Floomerfelt, I can't recall what was on the page before I tagged it for deletion, and I'm not an admin so I cannot see deleted content. It's not a big deal that their user page was deleted, it just means that it contains content that should not have been on their user page. It may be a page written like a resume, the page might be just a link to a personal website, or it may be using the page as a blog of sorts, all of which you should not do. It's hard to say without remembering what was on the page, but they haven't been punished in any way. The warning left on their page should link to the relevant information on the subject.
- As for getting used to Wikipedia, don't be afraid to make mistakes but try not to keep making the same mistakes. Listen to feedback given and be willing to ask questions at WP:HELPDESK, there are plenty of helpful people there that will point you in the right direction. The long and the short of Wikipedia editing is include sources for information, write in a neutral without fluff, assume good faith of your fellow editors, and do not edit promotionally. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:09, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Error?
Hello. I believe your revert on Jacob Steinmetz just now was in error. Your edit summary bears no relation to your revert. 65.88.88.62 (talk) 16:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, I think you may have been trying to add a reference but you added a site URL in a format that is consistent with external links. I'd recommend you check out Help:Referencing for beginners. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:57, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- You said that I added an external link. But I did not. That was simply not true. I added a reference, in one of various formats that are used, that was clearly a ref to text, and not in the external links section. I would ask that you self revert. Deletion was not appropriate. It does nothing to improve Wikipedia. P--65.88.88.62 (talk) 18:04, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- Square brackets are typically used to link to items on Wikipedia or for creating external links, which your link was placed inside of. Based on the diff of your edit, it is shown as an external link and not as a reference. You are welcome to add the information back using the appropriate reference format, which includes the use of ref tags, as shown at Help:Introduction to referencing with Wiki Markup/2, but I will not be self reverting. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:18, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
- You said that I added an external link. But I did not. That was simply not true. I added a reference, in one of various formats that are used, that was clearly a ref to text, and not in the external links section. I would ask that you self revert. Deletion was not appropriate. It does nothing to improve Wikipedia. P--65.88.88.62 (talk) 18:04, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
Vandalism suggestion
Thank you for your suggestion to test mediawiki exploit vandalism in the sandbox. However, for some reason, I can’t redirect the sandbox, so I have to resort to vandalizing mainspace pages. Thanks anyways, 174.240.191.122 (talk) 16:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- You absolutely do not need to resort to that and if you do continue to vandalize pages you may end up banned. I'd also expect someone testing to be on a registered account, not as an IP address. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
Lack of a timestamp in your signature
Hi Hey man im josh. Have you recently removed the timestamp from your signature, or are the posts to RSN a bug? Without the timestamp the reply tool stops functioning. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 18:34, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- It must have been a bug, as I don't have a custom signature. I'll go take a look and fix it, thanks @ActivelyDisinterested. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:36, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
- Maybe Thursday has come early. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 18:49, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
A Big Thank You
Thank you very much for the barnstar, Josh. It's February and you already made my 2023!
And like always, please tell me right away when my direction goes off course. @@
Regards, John Bringingthewood (talk) 01:02, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hey @Bringingthewood, I'm glad you're always open to criticism and collaboration. You're the exact type of user this project needs and I just wanted to give you some positive reinforcement. I'm glad you ended up registering and I'm grateful for all that you contribute. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Casablanca Airport Med V citations
Hey Josh, I'm the person that has been editing the Casablanca Airport page. Look, of course I understand where you're coming from with the citations. I agree very much that referencing content is a fundamental thing on a Wiki page, but in the field of airline destinations that is just very hard to do sometimes. In Casablanca's case, I have removed a lot more than I added in terms of routes. If I take Flynas for example, flying to Jeddah, there are plenty of sources online that announce the route, but if I go on the Flynas website it becomes pretty clear there are no more direct flights between the two cities. What is then the right thing to do here? Should I include a source that links to the Flynas website? Because that is pretty vague as well. There are plenty of other examples, such as S7 to Mosocow, RAM to Beijing, Saudia to Medina etc.. How can anything ever be removed if airlines hardly give official statements for discontinuing flights? In terms of new routes, I do my best to provide sources (such as with Air Côte d'Ivoire to Abidjan), and I can understand you are a bit more skeptical. Still though, a source may not tell the whole story: a seasonal flight can become a permanent flight, routes may start later than originally planned (see the flight to Alexandria). If I look on any big airport wiki, there really aren't hundreds of sources next to every single destination in order to verify that they indeed run the route. So I understand you, but the alternative is staying with a horrendously outdated destinations page with sources from 2017 and 2018, only because you dogmatically have to provide external sources that the route is run. Is there a way to find a compromise in this topic? 81.173.79.58 (talk) 15:16, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- I may not actually be the best person to ask this question to, as you're getting into specific situations that I don't have a lot of experience in and I don't want to steer you wrong. I think you'll get better, more informed answers if you ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports which is a sub project of Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation. Those are where the experts on these types of articles are at. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:28, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Okay I will ask there, but then I don't really understand why you're acting like you do know how it works in the revisions page. I've edited more airport pages in the past without much objection by others in terms of sources. If it really is the way as you make it out to be, 1) there should be hundreds of sources on every single airport wiki, and 2) I would have received feedback a long time ago about how that is a bad practice. 81.173.79.58 (talk) 16:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Everything that's added to an article should be verifiable, plain and simple, and it was clear from a lack of citations that it was not. I'm pointing you in that direction because they'll be familiar with the best sources available to construct this type of content. How would you know that nobody has given feedback if you're using a dynamic IP address? There may have been a message left for you at a talk page and you could be unaware of it. This is why it's beneficial to register an account, so that users can communicate with you in a central location. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:36, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Airports/page_content#Airlines_and_destinations
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports/Archive_17#Referencing
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports/Archive_18#It_is_indeed_time_to_get_rid_of_all_the_Airline_&_Destination_tables
- Here they talk about destinations going to be serviced and going to be terminated in the future. In these cases I completely understand the need for sourcing. However, when it comes to routes that have already been discontinued long ago, along with routes that have already existed for a while, for me it doesn't really make sense to not update any of them only because there is no secondary source. The flight to Nouadhibou by Mauritania Airlines hasn't flown for years as far as I can see (https://www.mauritaniaairlines.mr/index.php/vols/reseau-de-la-compagnie). Why let it stay on the wiki? 81.173.79.58 (talk) 17:14, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Everything that's added to an article should be verifiable, plain and simple, and it was clear from a lack of citations that it was not. I'm pointing you in that direction because they'll be familiar with the best sources available to construct this type of content. How would you know that nobody has given feedback if you're using a dynamic IP address? There may have been a message left for you at a talk page and you could be unaware of it. This is why it's beneficial to register an account, so that users can communicate with you in a central location. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:36, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Okay I will ask there, but then I don't really understand why you're acting like you do know how it works in the revisions page. I've edited more airport pages in the past without much objection by others in terms of sources. If it really is the way as you make it out to be, 1) there should be hundreds of sources on every single airport wiki, and 2) I would have received feedback a long time ago about how that is a bad practice. 81.173.79.58 (talk) 16:32, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
stfu ur ugly ah hell
ugly ah boi 140.82.189.57 (talk) 19:09, 16 February 2023 (UTC)