Talk:LGBTQ rights in Norway: Difference between revisions
No edit summary |
|||
Line 83: | Line 83: | ||
Rather than following other articles that might also have a less clear style as edit summary suggests, "{{tq|As seen on many "LGBT rights in x country" articles on English Wikipedia, most countries have same year when it was decriminalized and equal age of consent, look for example: Bhutan, Slovenia, Montenegro, Barbados etc.}}", I'd rather try to change those articles. In any case, in this article, can we get to something that is both precise and agreeable to all editors? I'd like to discuss, please. [[Special:Contributions/203.0.31.200|203.0.31.200]] ([[User talk:203.0.31.200|talk]]) 01:55, 16 January 2023 (UTC) |
Rather than following other articles that might also have a less clear style as edit summary suggests, "{{tq|As seen on many "LGBT rights in x country" articles on English Wikipedia, most countries have same year when it was decriminalized and equal age of consent, look for example: Bhutan, Slovenia, Montenegro, Barbados etc.}}", I'd rather try to change those articles. In any case, in this article, can we get to something that is both precise and agreeable to all editors? I'd like to discuss, please. [[Special:Contributions/203.0.31.200|203.0.31.200]] ([[User talk:203.0.31.200|talk]]) 01:55, 16 January 2023 (UTC) |
||
===Request for comment: In summary table, describing age of consent=== |
|||
:{{rfc|soc}} |
:{{rfc|soc}} |
||
:Should the summary table show "since 1972" as the date that "equal ages of consent" for heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior came into force, or would saying something like "never unequal" (see above section for approaches) be clearer? [[Special:Contributions/203.0.31.200|203.0.31.200]] ([[User talk:203.0.31.200|talk]]) 02:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC) |
:Should the summary table show "since 1972" as the date that "equal ages of consent" for heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior came into force, or would saying something like "never unequal" (see above section for approaches) be clearer? [[Special:Contributions/203.0.31.200|203.0.31.200]] ([[User talk:203.0.31.200|talk]]) 02:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC) |
Revision as of 02:51, 15 March 2023
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the LGBTQ rights in Norway article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.
|
Wiki Loves Pride | ||||
|
Transgender rights in Norway
This article is about lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights, yet the article does not address transgender civil rights beyond certain sexual and marriage rights. Important civil rights issues facing transgender people include: access to transition-related healthcare, access to legal recognition of name and gender, gender identity and expression specific anti-discrimination laws, access to gender-specific public facilities, medical gatekeeping, among others.
Also, please be aware that something which protects against discrimination based on sexual orientation is not an "LGBT" anti-discrimination ordinance. It is an LGB anti-discrimination law. Transgender civil rights is being held back due to 'little t' attitude in LGBT politic and I feel it is important for an encyclopedia to be accurate about the distinction between LGB and T civil rights, and to distinguish when appropriate. If someone who understands the language could please check paragraphs 349a and 135a of the penal code to see if it explicitly protects gender identity and expression. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady unleashed (talk • contribs) 02:58, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
I agree this is not an LGBT article, but an LG article. It needs to be expanded. The Norwegian treatment of trans* individuals has been heavily criticised internationally, and isn't even mentioned. Neither is the new anti-discrimination law (prop 88/2013) that came into effect January 1st, 2014. Jadzia626 (talk) 01:32, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
History behinde Fredom to join the armed forces in Norway.
Discusion. Excuse the inconsitancies (Not very good with computers)
Can anyone tell me exactly when it became lagal to join the military in norway? The exact time and date? How many vote were for and how many against ETC. Does this also aply to the Norwiegian special forces? Or ar the special forcesd in Norwar under difernt legislation? I would also like to know whether, as an agency of law, if there was any hinderance on homosexuals, male & female, on joining the police force? Is there anyone who can tell me where I can find full details of the history behind this repeal? I want to know in what context, pre 1979 prohibeted homosexuals from being in the military. Have there ever been special forces oporatives who were gay? I have heard of a couple in our SAS, though trying to find the exact information is proving dificult. Also, if there have been any other high ranking governmet or royal persons, or gay Special forces oporatives such as the American Navy Seals, or the South African Reki, if spelt righ, please let me know. Also, I have recived several massgaes from the wiki comunity regarding me enquries, my apologies in advance, I habent really got the hand on wiki yet.
Any way, have there ever been laws baring homosexuals from the polie, please do not tell me about countries under Shari'ah law, I'm not interested on their policies, as I already knoe they hate homosexuals.
I would also like to know if there have been any gay couples or famials who have hade one man in the army or special forces, the other a police man, and another in some other form of high risk or authorative job, such as a bouncer or a security guard. You can also Email me @ Drew3712@hotmail.co.uk I take it this is going to apear on the "discusions" page, if not, sorry, I'm just not very good at computing. Civilian knowledge (talk) 18:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
On other topics. Plicies of police forces and sexual orientation and service.
Does anyone know if there are any policies held by police force regarding sexual orientation and service. Although many countries allow homosexuals to join the military, and or police. Are there any discriminatory policies held within the police although you may not be barred out right. For example, a policy witch bars homosexuals from working on cases involving under 18 or not having high ranking jons? Derw3712@hotmail.co.uk Civilian knowledge (talk) 19:05, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 3 external links on LGBT rights in Norway. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20101122235101/http://old.ilga.org/Statehomophobia/ILGA_State_Sponsored_Homophobia_2010.pdf to http://old.ilga.org/Statehomophobia/ILGA_State_Sponsored_Homophobia_2010.pdf
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080617115242/http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2479146.ece to http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article2479146.ece
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20160314051755/http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12795 to http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=12795
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:31, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
External links modified
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on LGBT rights in Norway. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120808001707/http://www.gaytimes.co.uk/Hotspots/GayGuide-action-Country-countryid-736.html to http://www.gaytimes.co.uk/Hotspots/GayGuide-action-Country-countryid-736.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:18, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
Orange?
The image caption in the box on the right says:
- Location of LGBT rights in Norway (orange)
- in Europe (white) – [Legend]
Where do these come from? Even the source says
caption = {{map caption|location_colour=dark green|region=[[Europe]]|region_colour=dark grey|legend=Europe-Norway.svg}}
... or (clearly) not orange and white. Where are those color names coming from? It's also correct in the file itself. -- OliviaZoe0 ❤️ (She/her) (talk) 12:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Age of consent in summary table
I wonder why there seems to be an objection to a more precise and descriptive notation in the summary table under age of consent, from this, being returned to this (Since 1972)
Some weeks ago, I returned it to previous version following a change by Lmharding, a wp:sock, in this edit; that one was actually better (more precise, less misleading) than the version since reinstated several times by fellow IP 188.252.199.203.
Other phrases tried:
- N/A efn|Norway has not had a separate age of consent for homosexual acts.
- (Always equal–since the 1972 legalization of sex between men)
- (Norway has never had a separate age of consent for homosexual acts.)
- N/A efn|Norway has not had a separate age of consent for homosexual acts.
Rather than following other articles that might also have a less clear style as edit summary suggests, "As seen on many "LGBT rights in x country" articles on English Wikipedia, most countries have same year when it was decriminalized and equal age of consent, look for example: Bhutan, Slovenia, Montenegro, Barbados etc.
", I'd rather try to change those articles. In any case, in this article, can we get to something that is both precise and agreeable to all editors? I'd like to discuss, please. 203.0.31.200 (talk) 01:55, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Request for comment: In summary table, describing age of consent
- An editor has requested comments from other editors for this discussion. Within 24 hours, this page will be added to the following list: When discussion has ended, remove this tag and it will be removed from the list. If this page is on additional lists, they will be noted below.
Please consider joining the feedback request service. - Should the summary table show "since 1972" as the date that "equal ages of consent" for heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior came into force, or would saying something like "never unequal" (see above section for approaches) be clearer? 203.0.31.200 (talk) 02:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
Norwegian Healthcare Investigation Board, (NHIB/UKOM) guidance
The NHIB has issued guidance to disallow medical procedures on underage individuals. The organization has stated: "The Norwegian Healthcare Investigation Board, (NHIB/UKOM) has deemed puberty blockers, cross-sex-hormones & surgery for children & young people experimental, determining that the current “gender-affirmative” guidelines are not evidence-based and must be revised."[1]. This is referenced from a couple of Norwegian articles I cannot read. I believe this is notable enough to be included in the article, but without a better understanding of Norwegian I'm concerned with translations being wrong.
- https://www.aftenposten.no/norge/i/jlwl19/vil-ha-tryggere-behandling-for-barn-som-vil-skifte-kjoenn-mangelfull-kunnskap-om-risikoen
- https://ukom.no/rapporter/pasientsikkerhet-for-barn-og-unge-med-kjonnsinkongruens/sammendrag — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kcmastrpc (talk • contribs) 14:09, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
- All unassessed articles
- Stub-Class LGBTQ+ studies articles
- WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies articles
- Stub-Class Human rights articles
- Low-importance Human rights articles
- WikiProject Human rights articles
- Stub-Class Norway articles
- Unknown-importance Norway articles
- WikiProject Norway articles
- Articles created or improved during Wiki Loves Pride 2016
- Wikipedia requests for comment