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Recall and Reappointment of Lord Wimborne as Lord Lieutenant - suggest date check

In the subsection Commission of Enquiry of section Aftermath, report published late June 1916, it is stated Lord Wimborne was recalled by Lloyd George, then reappointed as Lord Lieutenant in 1917, cited to a book without stating its page. Surely Lloyd George was not in any position to recall anyone from office in Ireland until he became Prime Minister to succeed Asquith in December of 1916: until early June 1916 he was Minister of Munitions, then succeeded Kitchener as War Secretary. I question the accuracy on chronological and jurisdiction grounds; if he did resign before December 1916, then the power of recall would have been in the hands of Asquith. (I don't dispute Lloyd George reappointing him because he was in PM office then.) I notice that in the list of Lord Lieutenants and the infobox of the article on Lord Wimborne his dates in office are presented as if he held it unbroken.Cloptonson (talk) 08:41, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Whoever added it didn't even have the title of the book right. I've fixed it. He was recalled (by Asquith), then re-appointed two months later. The post was vacant in between, so he held it unbroken in that sense. Scolaire (talk) 14:39, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

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Sinn Féin Rebellion

The Rising was not "described in some sources" as the Sinn Fein Rebellion. It was almost universally referred to as such at the time. I have linked to four contemporary documents that make this clear. The Sinn Fein Rebellion Handbook was published by the Irish Times in 1916; the link is to a 1917 reprint. Anyone with a subscription to the Irish Newspaper Archive can verify the almost universal use of "Sinn Fein Rebellion" in 1916. Can Guliolopez or anybody else provide documentary evidence, either in primary or secondary sources, that "Easter Rising" was the more common appellation in 1916? No, because it wasn't. Where I put it was the correct place, because it described the situation in the immediate aftermath of the Rising, and provided context for the following statement that "General Maxwell quickly signalled his intention 'to arrest all dangerous Sinn Feiners'...reflecting the popular belief that Sinn Féin, a separatist organisation that was neither militant nor republican, was behind the Rising. 2001:BB6:47ED:FA58:ACDB:179:2E1D:899 (talk) 15:52, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi 2001:BB6:47ED:FA58:ACDB:179:2E1D:899. And welcome. On your points:

• RE: "not 'described in some sources'". I changed the proposed text (from "generally referred to as the Sinn Fein Rebellion" to "described in some sources as the Sinn Fein Rebellion") because it is not "generally referred to as the Sinn Fein Rebellion" by the vast majority of modern sources. Which generally (almost universally) refer to it as the Easter Rising. If the intent is to confirm that we're talking about contemporary references (c.1916/1917), then perhaps "described in many contemporary sources" is an appropriate compromise(?)
• RE: "Sinn Fein Rebellion Handbook was published by the Irish Times in 1916". I've only ever seen the 1917 issue - as here in the NLI or this digitisation. The latter online version being described as "published by the Irish Times in 1917 (..) based on articles carried in the Irish Times in May 1916". If there was an earlier issue, can we provide a source/ref for that?
• RE: "Where I put it was the correct place, because it described the situation in the immediate aftermath of the Rising [and led into the Maxwell quote]". In all honesty, the "Arrests and executions" section didn't immediately seem an ideal placement. And it just seemed a bit clunky/standalone. But I understand the point. If we want to cover the perceived Sinn Féin association there (not least so that the Maxwell quote makes a bit more sense), then I'm happy to help stitch it in. There.

GRMA. Guliolopez (talk) 16:16, 22 April 2023 (UTC)