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References/punctuation

Hello Oliver. Just to let you know (following this edit), references should be placed after punctuation marks like full stops, commas etc (see WP:CITEFOOT). Cheers, Number 57

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Welcome to the Months of African Cinema Global Contest!

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The AfroCine Project core team is happy to inform you that the Months of African Cinema Contest is happening again this year in October and November. We invite Wikipedians all over the world to join in improving content related to African cinema on Wikipedia!

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Warning for derision of IP editors and others

Hello. Please be advised that this is a formal warning against your multiple derisive statements such as You are anonymous, your edits and opinions are completely invalid ([1][2][3][4][5]). I also take a dim view of twice-repeated statement: I knew it Number 57, I knew you would do anything to screw me up, even if it means agreeing with complete ignorant strangers who pick on me because you hate me ([6][7]).

Please note that this kind of misconduct may carry imminent sanctions which may be imposed without further warning. Please treat all Wikipedia editors with respect, including IP editors, whose views are inherently no less valid than anyone else's. Please also treat any potential content opponents with respect. Discuss content on respective article talk pages; if at an impasse there, review your dispute resolution options and requests. Disruption can be reported at the usual places (WP:AIV, WP:ANI, WP:AN3, WP:RFPP, and so on). Thanks. El_C 11:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

RE: About the Warning. Thank you very much for the warning, although user Mathgloth had already told me the same thing weeks ago, you should also say the same to user Number 57, who is the one who commonly insults other users, including me, I know to use the edit summary to argue with another user is not correct, I admit it, but you would also have to tell that to other users who do the same. Oli (talk) 15:17, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

If you have evidence (in the form of WP:DIFFs) for me to review, feel free to do so here (please ping). Otherwise, I don't really know what to make of this reply, though as it happens, like with you, I did also criticized Number 157 for his problematic conduct with IPs (here). Though in fairness to Number 157, they were not as aggressive or as repetitive as you had been. El_C 15:24, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Did you even check user number 57's edit history in these articles: 2018 Brazilian general election & 2022 Brazilian general election? By the way, the user's name is Number 57, not 157 as you called him, it seems that you don't even remember his username well, of course now it turns out that I am very aggressive and repetitive in my answers, following your logic Number 57 can be very aggressive and use the edit summary to insult without fear of being penalized, anonymous users can constantly vandalize in case I don't report them, I'm an aggressive and repetitive monster, ok, I'm going to use the discussion pages of the articles to give arguments about my editions in them, despite the vandalism of anonymous articles and the aggressiveness of other users, they can insult and attack me, and I have to respect them even if they don't do it with me. Oli (talk) 15:58, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

OliverDF, you are still failing to meetthe evidence burden — pointing to edit history in articles is not enough. Again, specific WP:DIFFs are required. And when you make these sort of accusations absent these, that may be seen as an WP:ASPERSION. Yes, I've known Number 57 for many years; I don't see where I called them anything else. As far as I'm aware, they're an editor and an admin in good standing, though it's true that I have cautioned them in the past about communicating better. Again, WP:PING me, or I might miss your reply. El_C 16:34, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

[8] Oli (talk) 16:44, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

[9] Oli (talk) 16:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

The edit summary in the first diff (special:diff/1145520500) says: It's nothing to do with you, it's because it's a better image. Stop the pathetic reverting. Which while a bit heated and a bit uncivil, isn't really that concerning. As for the second one (special:diff/1148347842), which says: This is a better image, and also has a more similar background to Haddad's image, which is more aesthetically pleasing. By all means discuss on talk if you want to change rather than keep changing the photo — it seems completely innocuous. If that's the worst you have, then it isn't much and does not align with anything resembling an "insult and attack." El_C 16:55, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Sure, even if I had put you 3000 diffs & the conversations I had with him on his talk page, that wouldn't count as proof would it? Since he is an administrator, he has complete freedom to use ad-hominems as "pathetic" against me because that does not warrant a sanction, I am an "aggressive and repetitive" user "problematic and hypocritical" eh? Anonymous users who commit constant vandalism in any article I must only respect them, I must not report them, if one or more administrators abuse their power when editing articles, I must respect them, I must not report them, understood. Oli (talk) 17:18, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I don't know where you got "problematic and hypocritical" from — please point to the specific diff it could be found in. Actually, I couldn't care less if they're an admin, which is why, as mentioned, I criticized them, too, here. But communicating poorly is not the same as attacking other users, as you did with that IP. Or stating that Number 57 "hates you" in edit summaries, which is also inappropriate. You provided no evidence of ad hominem. As mentioned, "pathetic reverting" might be a bit uncivil, but ultimately, it just says that the reverting is what's pathetic, not that you the person, are.

So I'm not sure if there's a language barrier in understanding that or what. But assuming bad faith about myself, for whatever reason, I don't appreciate that. Anyway, if you can show misconduct beyond just that single "pathetic reverting" diff, I'm still willing to look at it. But, and feel free to get a second or third opinion on this, it in itself is insufficient to prove "insult and attack." El_C 18:07, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately this sort of overreaction and exaggeration has been going on for years. See this, this and this (after they added several copyrighted images to Commons), this etc. Or just false accusations like this... Number 57 17:58, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Yikes. Most of these are quite old, though. Obviously, there's a longstanding conflict there. OliverDF, my original warning to you stands, so please take note. Conduct yourself professionally as befitting a serious collaborative project. Don't lord your own tenure over IP editors and don't Lord Number 57 Number 57 (I know it was 2018, but that has a poetry to it). El_C 18:20, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

So sweet, you went to the trouble of going through my profile looking for old evidence to use against me because my reactions are "aggressive and repetitive", your attitude is "aggressive and repetitive", your edits are "aggressive and repetitive", everything your profile radiates pure "repetitive aggressiveness", being "an aggressive and repetitive user with zero professionalism without humility to communicate with other users". Oli (talk) 19:23, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Number 57 provided those diffs above, do you not see that? Please take better care to closely review submissions. Beyond that, this is the problem, when I said that Number 157 was not as aggressive or as repetitive as you had been (emphasis added)—in reference to the diffs I cited, these: [10][11][12][13][14], which I stand by—then you go on to misrepresent that as an "aggressive and repetitive" user "problematic and hypocritical" (emphasis added), well, that's a problem. If you lack the competence to tell the difference between an action and a person, that's a problem. If you make unfounded claims of "insult and attack" without evidence to back it up due to that misunderstanding, that is also a problem. You can't keep going like this is the point, because it'll catch up with you, if not in this instance, eventually. El_C 19:40, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Of course, using the old reliable "when I said aggressive and repetitive I was referring to your comments, not to you", it never fails, you just had to say that "you have terrible command of the English language, I can't understand anything you say", "You are worse than I supposed, a liar, aggressive, repetitive and inconsistent", in the end you agreed with Number 57, he is an administrator and your lifelong friend, that matters more than anything, no matter what he tells you, You couldn't care less, but what your friend says matters a lot, congratulations, you did it. Oli (talk) 20:50, 25 April 2023 (UTC)