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:The short answer is: the definition of creativity as the production of new, useful/valuable/appropriate (etc) products is the stable one found in the research literature on creativity, so of course it should stay as it is in the article (that being how Wikipedia works: it summarises [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]). The longer answer is that the question you raise is one discussed in the literature. How is value determined? The artist may say "this is not creative, it's boring, it's unoriginal, I hate it", but of course, other people may disagree and say it ''is'' a good, original painting, so it ''is'' creative. More often than that, someone believes they are a great artist/writer/musician but the rest of the world disagrees and thinks they're derivative or talentless and so not particularly creative. What immediately comes to mind is Csikszentmihalyi's discussion of this in ''Creativity: Flow and the psychology of discovery and invention'' (1996) where, if I recall correctly, he argues that creativity is entirely dependent upon assessment in its field (the people who take part in that area of creativity - readers, listeners, art appreciators etc) and dependent over time. Thus a work can become more or less creative as public opinion changes. That sounds odd, but in practice, it's how it works. Every period in history thinks itself right.[[User:OsFish|OsFish]] ([[User talk:OsFish|talk]]) 07:41, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
:The short answer is: the definition of creativity as the production of new, useful/valuable/appropriate (etc) products is the stable one found in the research literature on creativity, so of course it should stay as it is in the article (that being how Wikipedia works: it summarises [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]). The longer answer is that the question you raise is one discussed in the literature. How is value determined? The artist may say "this is not creative, it's boring, it's unoriginal, I hate it", but of course, other people may disagree and say it ''is'' a good, original painting, so it ''is'' creative. More often than that, someone believes they are a great artist/writer/musician but the rest of the world disagrees and thinks they're derivative or talentless and so not particularly creative. What immediately comes to mind is Csikszentmihalyi's discussion of this in ''Creativity: Flow and the psychology of discovery and invention'' (1996) where, if I recall correctly, he argues that creativity is entirely dependent upon assessment in its field (the people who take part in that area of creativity - readers, listeners, art appreciators etc) and dependent over time. Thus a work can become more or less creative as public opinion changes. That sounds odd, but in practice, it's how it works. Every period in history thinks itself right.[[User:OsFish|OsFish]] ([[User talk:OsFish|talk]]) 07:41, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

== Honing Theory ==

There appears to be only one source cited with Liane Gabora's honing theory from the "Proceedings of the Annual Meeting of the Cognitive Science Society". There are extensive claims made about the subject in this section that comprise three paragraphs. I feel that it would be important to add further sources related to the description of this theory.[[User:Pioneer25|Pioneer25]] ([[User talk:Pioneer25|talk]]) 03:34, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

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Open-endedness of Creativity

I find it important to mention that actions of creativity do not need to be deemed, "valuable" in order to be considered creative. What of an unrevealed art piece hated by the artist? No one in the moment of it's creation values it, therefore its title of creative is ripped away? I believe almost all things created in creativity are valued by someone, but to make value and new-ness creativity's unflinching requirements does not seem to be an absolute in my mind. Cablamalam (talk) 05:13, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The short answer is: the definition of creativity as the production of new, useful/valuable/appropriate (etc) products is the stable one found in the research literature on creativity, so of course it should stay as it is in the article (that being how Wikipedia works: it summarises reliable sources). The longer answer is that the question you raise is one discussed in the literature. How is value determined? The artist may say "this is not creative, it's boring, it's unoriginal, I hate it", but of course, other people may disagree and say it is a good, original painting, so it is creative. More often than that, someone believes they are a great artist/writer/musician but the rest of the world disagrees and thinks they're derivative or talentless and so not particularly creative. What immediately comes to mind is Csikszentmihalyi's discussion of this in Creativity: Flow and the psychology of discovery and invention (1996) where, if I recall correctly, he argues that creativity is entirely dependent upon assessment in its field (the people who take part in that area of creativity - readers, listeners, art appreciators etc) and dependent over time. Thus a work can become more or less creative as public opinion changes. That sounds odd, but in practice, it's how it works. Every period in history thinks itself right.OsFish (talk) 07:41, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Honing Theory

There appears to be only one source cited with Liane Gabora's honing theory from the "Proceedings of the Annual Meeting of the Cognitive Science Society". There are extensive claims made about the subject in this section that comprise three paragraphs. I feel that it would be important to add further sources related to the description of this theory.Pioneer25 (talk) 03:34, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]