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:That should be self-evident, but in case you really need an explanation, follow the sources. {{tq|The decision has ignited fierce partisan debate across the nation, as well as allegations of racism in the disparate treatment of Jones and Pearson, who are Black, compared with Johnson, who is White.}}[https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/07/tennessee-three-jones-pearson-johnson-expelled/] – [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 02:10, 15 April 2023 (UTC) |
:That should be self-evident, but in case you really need an explanation, follow the sources. {{tq|The decision has ignited fierce partisan debate across the nation, as well as allegations of racism in the disparate treatment of Jones and Pearson, who are Black, compared with Johnson, who is White.}}[https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/07/tennessee-three-jones-pearson-johnson-expelled/] – [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 02:10, 15 April 2023 (UTC) |
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::Shouldn't that be included then as context? Without that it sounds like the article is implying racism rather than it being what it is, an allegation of racism. [[User:Smankey415|Smankey415]] ([[User talk:Smankey415|talk]]) 04:43, 15 April 2023 (UTC) |
::Shouldn't that be included then as context? Without that it sounds like the article is implying racism rather than it being what it is, an allegation of racism. [[User:Smankey415|Smankey415]] ([[User talk:Smankey415|talk]]) 04:43, 15 April 2023 (UTC) |
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::That has no effect in this. The white woman wasn't expelled because she was smart. When presented with the opportunity to shout into the megaphone like both Justin's we're doing she declined and continued to whisper. She did absolutely nothing compared to the Justin's [[User:Antonio B.1234|Antonio B.1234]] ([[User talk:Antonio B.1234|talk]]) 00:25, 13 May 2023 (UTC) |
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Missing Career Information
The biographical account stops with Jones enrolling at Vanderbilit Divinity College and the article continues with an account of his protests, arrests, and criminal acts. This creates the impression that the latter consituted his career before his election to the Tennessee legislature. This should be clarified. If his profession was indeed that of protester, it would also be relevant to know how he supported himself. If he engaged in some other kind of work, it should be included. WmDKing (talk) 10:17, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
Should this page be protected?
While maybe not overt vandalism, there was some obviously loaded language with a citation from Fox News. For now, I think we should stick to the most obvious facts, that Jones was expelled for participating in a protest, and not say he "broke house rules by disrupting business," to paraphrase.
I was going to edit it myself but someone beat me to it in real time. So clearly emotions are high and this somewhat obscure page could potentially become a source of propaganda for either side.
Disclaimer: I am a Democrat so my opinion on this is obvious. But I think my suggestion is fair. 2603:7081:1603:A300:ACCE:C908:CA51:9CF (talk) 15:28, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
- It shouldn't exist. It's vanity for career insurrectionist who has been arrested 15 times. 2604:CA00:13B:3D53:0:0:E7F:AB5D (talk) 21:54, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Is it Wikipedia practice to protect pages pre-emptively? Wiki. is supposed to be a user-created encyclopedia and so far this process seems to be working with Justin Jones. WmDKing (talk) 20:57, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Should the successor/predecessor in his role be "Vacant" instead?
Considering he did not immediately follow himself (impossible; that would simply be a contiguous term/continuously held seat), shouldn't the infobox section for his role in the Tennessee House be changed to having the role be "Vacant" between April 6 and April 10 (thus, for the part ending April 6, successor = Vacant; and for the part starting April 10, predecessor = Vacant as well)? 206.71.246.250 (talk) 00:11, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
- Vacancies happen all the time in legislative bodies and keeping track of said vacancies (especially for state legislatures or municipal councils) is difficult. The place to dictate if the seat was vacant at any point would be for the future page of the 52nd Tennessee House of Representatives page in its member history. Indicating a vacancy by infobox per every single politician would take a tremendous amount of effort for a pointless point. To add onto this related to legislative bodies, even during the transition from term to term, each individual's term ends at a specific time but may be inaugurated into the new term later or sooner than other members. Do we count the seconds the seat was empty as the time it was vacant? My answer is no, but something to think about regarding other future occurrences that may happen like this one. BWellsOdyssey (talk) 00:36, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
In this segment how are the races (black/white) relevant or necessary information?
"The Tennessee House voted on April 6, 2023, to expel Jones, alongside Pearson, who are both black. Johnson, who is white, survived the vote." Smankey415 (talk) 01:44, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- That should be self-evident, but in case you really need an explanation, follow the sources.
The decision has ignited fierce partisan debate across the nation, as well as allegations of racism in the disparate treatment of Jones and Pearson, who are Black, compared with Johnson, who is White.
[1] – Muboshgu (talk) 02:10, 15 April 2023 (UTC)- Shouldn't that be included then as context? Without that it sounds like the article is implying racism rather than it being what it is, an allegation of racism. Smankey415 (talk) 04:43, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
- That has no effect in this. The white woman wasn't expelled because she was smart. When presented with the opportunity to shout into the megaphone like both Justin's we're doing she declined and continued to whisper. She did absolutely nothing compared to the Justin's Antonio B.1234 (talk) 00:25, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
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