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Referring to names: Correction, there is a proper name example I just noticed
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::::I combed through the MoS and didn't see anything specific about quotation marks when mentioning a name on first occurrence. Might be worth bringing up on one of the guideline talk pages at some point...or maybe not! In any case, I'm fine with whatever. By the way, I added a link to the [[Zambezi Zinger (2023)|new Zinger article]]. We should probably limit any mention of the new coaster at this article to 1-2 sentences. My 2¢ --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 19:39, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
::::I combed through the MoS and didn't see anything specific about quotation marks when mentioning a name on first occurrence. Might be worth bringing up on one of the guideline talk pages at some point...or maybe not! In any case, I'm fine with whatever. By the way, I added a link to the [[Zambezi Zinger (2023)|new Zinger article]]. We should probably limit any mention of the new coaster at this article to 1-2 sentences. My 2¢ --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 19:39, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
::::: [[MOS:WAW]] takes the words right out of my mouth, both in terms of italics as the best solution (and the first thing I tried) and quotation marks as the next best (and the second thing I tried). OT: Thanks for doing a whizzbang job creating the new article! — <kbd>[[User:voidxor|<span style="color: blue">void</span>]][[User talk:voidxor|<span style="color: black">xor</span>]]</kbd> 22:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
::::: [[MOS:WAW]] takes the words right out of my mouth, both in terms of italics as the best solution (and the first thing I tried) and quotation marks as the next best (and the second thing I tried). OT: Thanks for doing a whizzbang job creating the new article! — <kbd>[[User:voidxor|<span style="color: blue">void</span>]][[User talk:voidxor|<span style="color: black">xor</span>]]</kbd> 22:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for the kind feedback! Still needs a lot of work, but I plan to circle back to it in the next few days and add more info, such as ride statistics to article prose.{{pb}}As for MOS:WAW, I did come across that, but it seems to be more geared toward identifying words and phrases in running text that would normally be taken with a different meaning. For example, if I want to call out the preposition "under" in a sentence like, {{tq|The preposition in "My feet are under the table" is "under"}}, then that would be an acceptable use. Proper names aren't really talked about here, and I'm assuming that's because proper names with capitalization aren't as likely to be mistaken in the same way. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 23:41, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for the kind feedback! Still needs a lot of work, but I plan to circle back to it in the next few days and add more info, such as ride statistics to article prose.{{pb}}As for MOS:WAW, I did come across that, but it seems to be more geared toward identifying words and phrases in running text that would normally be taken with a different meaning. For example, if I want to call out the preposition "under" in a sentence like, {{tq|The preposition in "My feet are under the table" is "under"}}, then that would be an acceptable use. There is a proper name example regarding "New World", but that's because the name could be confused with meaning "a new world". Most proper names with capitalization like Zambezi Zinger aren't as likely to be mistaken in the same way. --[[User:GoneIn60|GoneIn60]] ([[User talk:GoneIn60|talk]]) 23:41, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

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I need help getting permission, or finding a free usage photo of the ride. (preferably multiple photos) WofKcFan (talk) 20:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Referring to names

@GoneIn60: The quotation marks are because the sentence is referring to what it's called, not because I think that all roller coaster names should be quoted. If that were the case, note that I would have quoted it throughout. — voidxor 02:51, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly for the same reason I removed the italics originally on that name and not on the others, uniformity? - Adolphus79 (talk) 03:00, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
voidxor, I appreciate the explanation. In my humble opinion, quotes aren't necessary except when the name may be hard to identify on first mention in running prose. That didn't seem like the case here. But of course, that's just one opinion! I don't think there's anything forbidding that kind of use in the MoS, so if you want to reinstate them, feel free. Appreciate the cleanup efforts, BTW. --GoneIn60 (talk) 03:14, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, and my point (I think), all or none... also, being Proper Names, not titles or "nicknames", the I think the bolding in the lede sentence felt enough... and depending on what we do with the new coaster by the old name we will probably have a wikilink on the 2023 instance soon to help differentiate the two... - Adolphus79 (talk) 04:15, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. I typically put quotation marks (or alternatively at least italics or bold per MOS:BOLD) when a sentence refers to something being "named 'ABC'" or "called 'XYZ'". That's where I was coming from, grammatically. Also, I wanted to further differentiate between the old and the new Zinger. After sleeping on it, the fact that it's a proper noun and therefore capitalized might suffice. Somebody with a stronger English grammar background might enlighten us. And yes, a new article ought to be created once the new coaster opens. Thank you both for helping to cleanup the article yesterday; it's looking much better! — voidxor 17:44, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I combed through the MoS and didn't see anything specific about quotation marks when mentioning a name on first occurrence. Might be worth bringing up on one of the guideline talk pages at some point...or maybe not! In any case, I'm fine with whatever. By the way, I added a link to the new Zinger article. We should probably limit any mention of the new coaster at this article to 1-2 sentences. My 2¢ --GoneIn60 (talk) 19:39, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
MOS:WAW takes the words right out of my mouth, both in terms of italics as the best solution (and the first thing I tried) and quotation marks as the next best (and the second thing I tried). OT: Thanks for doing a whizzbang job creating the new article! — voidxor 22:59, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the kind feedback! Still needs a lot of work, but I plan to circle back to it in the next few days and add more info, such as ride statistics to article prose.
As for MOS:WAW, I did come across that, but it seems to be more geared toward identifying words and phrases in running text that would normally be taken with a different meaning. For example, if I want to call out the preposition "under" in a sentence like, The preposition in "My feet are under the table" is "under", then that would be an acceptable use. There is a proper name example regarding "New World", but that's because the name could be confused with meaning "a new world". Most proper names with capitalization like Zambezi Zinger aren't as likely to be mistaken in the same way. --GoneIn60 (talk) 23:41, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]