Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahrou Ahmadi: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added

Inline

Revision as of 15:47, 18 May 2023

Mahrou Ahmadi

[Hide this box] New to Articles for deletion (AfD)? Read these primers!

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

This is a borderline WP:BLP1E violation but at best a non-notable one time pageant winner. As an alternative to deletion, article could be redirected to one of the pageant pages, probably Miss Earth 2022 (note Miss Iran 2022 is [still] a redlink and itself presumed non-notable). ☆ Bri (talk) 19:57, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Fashion, Beauty pageants, Iran, and Turkey. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 20:05, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The article says she participated in three pageants and won two of them, and seems to be supported with adequate references. Beauty pageant winners get a lot of media coverage. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 21:44, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are implying that winning some pageant makes a person notable. The relevant guideline states Winners of Big Four pageants are generally presumed to be notable. The subject of this article has not won such an award. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep: I put the more citations needed template for this article to have more sources for this BLP. CastJared (talk) 00:38, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CastJared: Are you providing a policy-based reason to keep the article? ☆ Bri (talk) 20:33, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I suggested to weak keep article as it needs more citations. CastJared (talk) 02:23, 17 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

We both agree it needs more citations. The problem is: do such sources exist? There's no presumption that they do, per the relevant notability guideline. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep She has won beauty pageant and as per the Wikipedia winning awards or pageant means passing the notability and that too she has won 3 pageants so yes this page should not be deleted. — Shaikha Habiba (talk · contribs) is a confirmed sock puppet of Devoter (talk · contribs).

The article lists the subject as the winner of two pageants, and "Miss Iran Earth 2022 pageant" may not actually exist – can you show that it was not an appointment to appear at Miss Earth 2022? At any rate, again, only the big four pageants are considered to be likely to confirm notability, not these national ones (if they exist). ☆ Bri (talk) 20:31, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Checkuser note: Blocked as a sockpuppet. (Shaikha, not Bri!) Courcelles (talk) 14:36, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying! ☆ Bri (talk) 15:42, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@@ Line 12: / Line 12: @@
 ::{{ping|CastJared}} Are you providing a policy-based reason to keep the article? ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Bri|Bri]]</span> ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 20:33, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 :::I suggested to weak keep article as it needs more citations. [[User:CastJared|CastJared]] ([[User talk:CastJared|talk]]) 02:23, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
-::We both agree it needs more citations. The problem is: do such sources exist? There's no presumption that they do, per [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Notability (beauty pageant participants)|the relevant notability guideline]]. ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Bri|Bri]]</span> ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 15:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
+::::We both agree it needs more citations. The problem is: do such sources exist? There's no presumption that they do, per [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Beauty Pageants/Notability (beauty pageant participants)|the relevant notability guideline]]. ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Bri|Bri]]</span> ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 15:47, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 *<s>'''Keep''' She has won beauty pageant and as per the Wikipedia winning awards or pageant means passing the notability and that too she has won 3 pageants so yes this page should not be deleted.</s> <!-- Template:Csp --><small>— {{noping2|Shaikha Habiba}} is a confirmed [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Devoter|sock puppet]] of {{noping2|Devoter}}. </small>
 ::The article lists the subject as the winner of two pageants, and "Miss Iran Earth 2022 pageant" may not actually exist – can you show that it was not an appointment to appear at Miss Earth 2022? At any rate, again, only the big four pageants are considered to be likely to confirm notability, not these national ones (if they exist). ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">[[User:Bri|Bri]]</span> ([[User talk:Bri|talk]]) 20:31, 16 May 2023 (UTC)