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May 25

change a article

hello, I'm trying to edit an article called: oliva cigar. but I have not succeeded, I would like to know what happens? The information that I am adding is true 2803:1800:41CF:97F7:939:2DC1:A869:8DB8 (talk) 01:20, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Is this about Oliva_Cigar_Co.? Another IP editor (you?) has been trying to remove a large amount of material from the article. Discuss your proposed changes on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 01:27, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, it was me, since the current information is old and is not correct. 2800:E2:C880:750:3810:23A4:13F9:B949 (talk) 17:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

That may be true, but we cannot accept amendments on your anonymous say-so. (Maybe you work for a rival company and want to harm the article – such things happen.) We need published Reliable sources to which all new information must be cited in the correct manner.

We can, and should, remove material that has not been cited to reliable sources, but material that is properly cited to sources that were both reliable and correct at the time cannot be removed without new sources to demonstrate that it is now incorrect.

You, 2803:1800:41CF:97F7:939:2DC1:A869:8DB8, need to explain at Talk:Oliva_Cigar_Co. (As RudolphRed says above) what changes you think should be made and what reliable sources corroborate them. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195}

Issues from a Wikipedia project regarding SVGs

I've made plenty of SVG vectorizations of Coats of arms of municipalities in Puerto Rico, I've had plenty of issues with members of the Puerto Rican Wikiproject regarding that specifically; instant reverts, claims of vandalism, reporting to admins, behaving as a WP:GANG in some manner and even cyberstalking me. I've recently made a higher quality version of the Coat of arms of Ponce, Puerto Rico as the one currently used made by User:TheEloquentPeasant (seen here) is low quality and clearly a bitmap trace of what could be a copyrighted image (to those who dont know coats of arms have things called blasons, these blasons are what tells the artist to draw, renditions by artists can and most of the time are subject to copyright unless posted otherwise, blasons being copyrighted themselves are extremely rare especially in the United States). Assuming good faith and after taking a break from editing anything related to Puerto Rico in fears of being bothered once more I replaced the SVG on the article for quality and possibly tracing issues. It was immediately removed by a PR wikiproject member (which can be viewed here), user states that "The shield replaced has been there over 15 yrs (18:42, 1 November 2007), as such, it has the tacit approval of tens, perhaps hundreds, of past contributing editors as well as the current ones. It was a major change to the article, but perhaps you also had a major reason to change it. IAE, please discuss it in the article's Talk Page and achieve WP:CONSENSUS for the change first.. Thank you.'", that being said the justification given is for the revert is incorrect. For one the file that was changed has not been up for over 15 years, it in fact was made in 2020, nor was it approved by a consensus that the user is very addiment about me following to replace it.

I'm not really sure how I should handle this as all of my experiences with this particular Wikiproject has been nothing but toxic and uncalled for, any advice or help would be appreciated!  Viiticus  ^Loqui? 01:35, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@Vitticus: You should discuss it at Talk:Ponce,_Puerto_Rico#Coat_of_arms/Shield_edit_reverted where the editor that reverted you has already started the discussion about the image. If you are unable to reach consensus there, then follow the advice at WP:DR to resolve the dispute. RudolfRed (talk) 04:18, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Regardless of how long the other image was there, this is part of the normal process of WP:BRD Bold, Revert, Discuss. You put a change in, the other editor reverted, and now the next step is to discuss it. RudolfRed (talk) 04:20, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Editors are not required to get consensus for an edit prior to making it. If they had a valid reason why the edit should be undone, then they should have provided one. "No consensus" is not a valid reason. Are you sure that the WikiProject as a group is controlling content? That's a serious charge if true, but that particular WikiProject doesn't seem very active. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 06:29, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm sceptical of the claim that a blason can be subject to copyright. There's nothing creative in it. If you show a coat of arms to a group of people competent at heraldry, and ask them each to write a blason for it, they should all come up with pretty much the same text. Maproom (talk) 07:49, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Unless I am missing something, you are in agreement with the OP? Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 09:45, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

سلام عليكم اسعد الله يومكم شو لازم اعمل

انا بدي عمل Ayoub Bouhazzi (talk) 08:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Ayoub Bouhazzi This is the English Wikipedia, please communicate in English. 331dot (talk) 08:56, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@Ayoub Bouhazzi: Hi there! If you're interested in working on the English Wikipedia, you can look at the Wikipedia:Task Center for ideas on how you could contribute in English. You might also be interested in the Arabic Wikipedia. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 16:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

سلام عليك, Ayoub. Please ask at ar:ويكيبيديا:فريق المساعدة/طلبات. ColinFine (talk) 17:13, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Broken table on mobile phone using Wikipedia app

I'm looking at the main table of Opinion polling for the next Israeli legislative election on my phone, using both the Wikipedia app and a browser. In the Wikipedia app, but not in the browser, the table is broken. The first data row has been merged with the heading row, so that the first 3 cells of the first data row appear under the names of the first 3 parties rather than under the first 3 headings. I'm not sufficiently familiar with wiki tables to be able to tell whether there is some subtle error in the table syntax. I've killed the app and restarted it, but the problem remains. Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 13:24, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

PS: and the last 3 cells of the first data row are projecting beyond the right-hand edge of the table. Misha Wolf (talk) 13:25, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@Misha Wolf: I have fixed rowspan.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:29, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks! Misha Wolf (talk) 14:30, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Two-level list with arabic and lower-roman markers

I've created a two-level list at Nexus Task Force § Actions that are considered to be antisemitic, which is intended to use arabic markers at the first level and lower-roman markers at the second level. As I don't know how to do this, I have - for now - used plain bullets at the second level. I see, at Help:List § Changing the list type, how to create lower-roman markers, but don't know how to apply this technique to a second level list, given that "In order to be a list, each line must begin the same way. This holds true for mixed lists." (see Help:List § Common mistakes). Thanks Misha Wolf (talk) 13:47, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Trappist the monk, I see that you've made the change. Many thanks! Misha Wolf (talk) 14:05, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

need help with placing a figure

I am trying to add a new figure to this section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cannabis#Liberalizing_and_legalizing , and I cannot remove this text from the article body: [[

The number of publications about marijuana/cannabis according to Web of Science. |thumb|alt=Correlation between publications about cannabis and historic events from https://origins.osu.edu/article/illegalization-marijuana-brief-history?language_content_entity=en%7CThe number of publications about marijuana/cannabis according to Web of Science.]]

Can someone clean up this mess? I will continue with writing the article wafterwards. Walter Tau (talk) 16:37, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@Walter Tau: I have removed some invalid code.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 17:01, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

thank you for your help. that was easy ! Walter Tau (talk) 17:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Adding Reference material

Hello,

I can do visual editing but not source editing. I'd like to add a few references but not sure how to do it. I'm curently in the sandbox, hoping to get approval for my wikipedia page.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Diana Stevan Diana Stevan (talk) 17:38, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Click the "Cite" button on the header when editing your sandbox, and then you can either have the visual editor automatically make a citation for you, manually input the details for a citation, or reuse a source you've already used. interstatefive  17:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@Diana Stevan: See also the short video at WP:EASYREFBEGIN. GoingBatty (talk) 20:42, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I'll give it a go tomorrow or the next day when my brain isn't fried. :) 2001:569:BDE0:5200:D862:B4:3346:4DE4 (talk) 22:46, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Can I edit the Wikipedia page about me?

Someone I don't know created a Wiki page about me 13 or so years ago. (I work in the film industry.) It has some factual errors. Can I edit the page myself? No one knows more about the facts of my life than I do! if the answer is no, what's the best way to get the errors corrected? 76.167.151.163 (talk) 18:53, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

You should go to the talk page and request an edit, not do it yourself. See {{Request edit}}. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 19:09, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Moreover, Wikipedia can only primarily use information that is verifiable as reported by sources that are secondary and reliable; it can't use anything that you yourself say except in a few instances. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:13, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

"On this day" mailing list?

On the Main Page, under Featured Article, there is a link to subscribe to a mail list to get the article of the day. Under "On this Day" there is also a mailing list link. I assumed(!) that this would be a mailing list to get the On this Day section emailed to me. But, the link leads to the same list as the Featured Article section -- to get the article of the day.

Is this link wrong? Is there a different list for On this Day mailings, and if so how do I subscribe? I do see that there is a way to create an account for managing subscriptions, and maybe with a login all the different lists are visible, but I would rather not create yet another online account just to subscribe to the list.

I know that there is also a way to report errors on the main page but I am not sure if this counts as an error.

RudolfRed (talk) 19:10, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@RudolfRed: I don't subscribe to the list but the archives at [3] show Article of the Day, Today's selected anniversaries, Wiktionary's word of the day and Wikiquote quote of the day together. I guess they are all part of the same mail and you cannot limit it to one of them. The list description at [4] fails to say this. It cannot be edited here at the English Wikipedia. There is an address to contact the list owners. I would make a test subscription and check the mail before considering that. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:19, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for that info, I will subscribe and check it out. RudolfRed (talk) 20:25, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Futility (poem)

Good evening, could someone rename the page "Futility (poem)"? The title should be italicised, because it contains the name of a bookpoem. The part in brackets should not be italicised. JackkBrown (talk) 19:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: MOS:MINORWORK says to use quotation marks for short poems. Wikipedia:Article titles#Do not enclose titles in quotes says to not use it in article titles. The title is fine as it is. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:03, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

No. "Futility" is a short poem; see MOS:QUOTETITLE.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 20:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) JackkBrown, it is not a book. It is a short poem. The title should not be in italics. It should be in quotation marks in the lead sentence. Please see MOS:NOITALIC and many examples in Category:English-language poems. Cullen328 (talk) 20:06, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

The post originally said "contains the name of a book" but changed it to poem [5] while we were writing replies. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: Your change to the original post not have been done in that way. I've done it properly. Bazza (talk) 20:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: If it was a book, you could add {{italic title}} to the top of the article, which would display the title as Futility (poem). For more complicated italicization, you could use {{DISPLAYTITLE}}. GoingBatty (talk) 20:38, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

May 26

Mrbeast in notable people

Mrbeast or Jimmy Donaldson should be added under notable people in Greenville North Carolina 2604:2D80:E609:5B00:CC8:33F0:93B8:7778 (talk) 00:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

See Greenville, North Carolina#Notable people. He seems to be already there. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:23, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Why does it say

I really want to know why, why can´t I just change that. Entwicklung europäischer Großstädte II (talk) 09:59, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi StrongALPHA
Firstly, let's make your question readable - your title should say Why does it say <!-- please do not add an infobox-->
Secondly, you did not say which article, but I assume it is Richard Wagner ?
If so, please read the 5 (lengthy) discussions at Talk:Richard Wagner - to access these, put infobox in the Archive search box. If, having read these, you wish to continue the discussion, please do so at Talk:Richard Wagner- Arjayay (talk) 10:16, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, I´m sure that you can see my question on the Talk Page there, so the answer to your question is yes. I´m afraid I don´t know how to access the Archive Search box, although I am aware of the option to view the history of the page, can you please explain to me how to access the archive? StrongALPHA (talk) 10:23, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

On the desktop view, if you go to the talk page, you will see near the top a list of archive links and a search box. If you are on the app or mobile browser view, I don't think you can get that: you'll need to switch to Desktop view. ColinFine (talk) 10:49, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

StrongALPHA, the discussion resulted in a lack of consensus. The balance of opinion may have changed in the last ten years. If you reopen the discussion, I expect you'll find there's more support for infoboxes now, even in classical music articles. Maproom (talk) 15:36, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

History of Rome

In the "Roman Republic" paragraph, could someone tell me (and maybe put it right) what happened here? "Also a formal treaty with the city of Carthage is reported to have been made in the end of the 6th century BC, which defined the spheres of influence of each city and regulated the trade between them.

Chart showing the checks and balances of the Roman Constitution

At the same time, Heraclides stated that 4th-century Rome was a Greek city (Plut. Cam. 22).

Rome's early enemies were the neighbouring hill tribes of the Volscians, the Aequi, and of course the Etruscans. As years passed and military successes increased Roman territory, new adversaries appeared. The fiercest were the Gauls, a loose collective of peoples who controlled much of Northern Europe including what is modern North and Central-East Italy.". JackkBrown (talk) 11:18, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Jackk. I have no idea at all what it is that "happened" or needs to be "put right". Please clarify. ColinFine (talk) 12:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@ColinFine: I don't know; I just know that this part, visually, is messy. JackkBrown (talk) 12:15, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

I have removed some blank lines, does it look better? TSventon (talk) 12:20, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@TSventon: yes, much better! JackkBrown (talk) 12:38, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

That's the problem with "Can somebody fix this?" posts - often, what is obvious to the poster is not obvious to somebody else. ColinFine (talk) 14:21, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@ColinFine: exactly, you're right. JackkBrown (talk) 15:38, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown I saw the problem created by the extra blank lines but didn't remove them because I couldn't figure out what the "At the same time" was all about. How can a statement about 4th-century Rome be made at the same time as something going on at the end of the 6th century (in the previous paragraph)? Unfortunately, none of this part seems to be cited so one could work out what is supposed to be meant. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:42, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Section link does not consistently link to any section

Dear everybody--

I'm trying to link to a specific section on a different page. I think I've got the formatting right, because I tested it when the editor showed me preview mode, and it worked! But then, once I had published the change, the section link sent me to a random point in a different section.
Is it just a problem with my hardware, or is it displaying that way for everyone? Am I making some boneheaded error in the markup?

Is it just a problem with my hardware, or is it displaying that way for everyone? Am I making some boneheaded error in the markup?
For reference, this is the page and section into which I have inserted the link: User:LegesFundamentales/Separation_of_powers_(userspace_draft)#Constitutional_monarchy

Thanks! §§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 14:02, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

It works for me. It doesn't put the heading "Constitutional monarchy" right at the top of the window, but near the top. ColinFine (talk) 14:23, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Erm - I thought he was trying to link to Grand_Burgher#Hierarchy (piped from behind bourgeois class in the section "Constitutional monarchy") but that works every time for me in any case, straight to the top of the section. - Arjayay (talk) 14:26, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

LegFun it may be a caching issue - please read and follow Wikipedia:Bypass your cache and see if that clears it - Arjayay (talk) 14:28, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

There are two section links in User:LegesFundamentales/Separation of powers (userspace draft)#Constitutional monarchy: bourgeois class and newly ascendant. Both are correctly formatted (spaces are preferred but underscores work) and take me to the right place in Firefox. If a page has collapsible content before a section then a section link may go to a wrong place in some browsers which position you a fixed distance from the top of the page before collapsing or expanding content. The second link has a sidebar with collapsible sections. In desktop browsers you can usually go to the right place by clicking in the address bar and pressing enter. This also works if you have manually scrolled away and want to go back. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:36, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you to all who replied. Now that I'm on my desktop device, it works fine for me as well. I'll see if I can resolve the issue I had on mobile with the cache bypass. In any case, it's fine as long as everyone else will be directed to the section about late-modern bourgeois revolutions. (It's not an ideal article to link, but English Wikipedia's coverage of the intricacies of social class in 19th century Germany are a bit thin.)

§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 17:45, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

LegesFundamentales, you could mention the appropriate German term and/or link to de Wikipedia if the en Wikipedia link is not very useful. TSventon (talk) 18:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Seeking specific feedback on a deleted article

Dear Wikipedia Help Desk,

Thank you for everything you do. At your convenience, I would like to better understand why my latest article—entitled “Glen Hiemstra”—was removed via speedy deletion. I am a long-time publisher of Wikipedia content who never previously encountered this scenario, thus your response will prove instructive for me.

Hiemstra, the subject of my article, is a notable futurist, and, as such, conformed with my efforts to bring more awareness to the futurist profession and the study of futurism. However, the article was apparently deleted on the basis that “the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic.” No further detail was given, and I have difficulty reconciling that comment with the article I created.

I applaud Wikipedia’s commitment to avoiding promotional content, and, for that reason, I approach my writing with a commitment to explicit neutrality. As with all of my past publications, the Hiemstra article conspicuously avoided such terms as “renowned,” “leading,” “lauded,” “accomplished”, etc., and only featured content that could be judiciously sourced. (Indeed, nearly every sentence of this article featured a citation to a high-quality source.) While I described the subject’s correct anticipation of information technology trends in the 1980s, this was only to demonstrate the importance of the subject within the futurist field, thus seeking to conform to Wikipedia’s notability standard.

Other portions of the article described Hiemstra’s philosophy and procedure in an objective, sourced manner, once more avoiding conspicuous praise. A section on media appearances was meant to demonstrate the areas in which the subject has been consulted, again in the interest of demonstrating notability, and again with a tone of strict reportage.

I’m fully willing to accept that despite my best efforts, the article unintentionally ran afoul of Wikipedia’s standards. I only wish to understand what portions of the article were deemed promotional. I believe the field of futurism to be an important area, and, correspondingly, I feel Wikipedia’s readers would benefit from an enhanced understanding of futurism’s practitioners. If I can receive any additional feedback about how to better facilitate that goal, I would greatly appreciate it.

I saved the article in its source-text form prior to deletion, and can provide it for review if requested. I would like to make another attempt at publication, but will wait to hear from you first.

Thank you for your time and for helping me be a better contributor to the Wikipedia community.Mbochart (talk) 15:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Cc Seraphimblade and FatalFit, who deleted Glen Hiemstra and tagged for deletion respectively. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 15:42, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@Pppery — I marked the article for G11 speedy deletion. I believe @Seraphimblade is the one that deleted it. Dylan | ✉ | ✓  15:54, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@Mbochart: There's a draft that you started very recently, so I'm going to assume that that's the content that was in mainspace. The article in mainspace was deleted under the G11 criterion, and it seems your idea of what constitutes as promotional writing differs greatly with the encyclopedia. There's a lot of editorialising (e.g., More broadly) and usage of words that I'd expect to see in ad copy (e.g., A professional futurist with a career spanning several decades, Hiemstra writes and speaks to organizations seeking clues for envisioning, adapting, surviving, and thriving in the future; emphasis mine). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:48, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Describing a person as an innovation specialist is going to draw skepticism and heightened scrutiny from reviewers. It's vapid and promotional and not encyclopedic. Nobody would describe Thomas Edison that way. Cullen328 (talk) 16:41, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, everyone, for the feedback you've provided so far. I want to make sure I follow protocol for the talk page. What would be best? Should I respond to comments separately (e.g. respond to Cullen328 in one thread and Tenryuu in another, or respond collectively if and when more comments come through? Mbochart (talk) 16:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict)To the above, I would add the general tone. It starts out A professional futurist with a career spanning several decades, Hiemstra writes and speaks to organizations seeking clues for envisioning, adapting, surviving, and thriving in the future, as an example. That's marketese straight out of a brochure, and it goes on and on like that. And a lot of it is trying to make him out to be some kind of oracle for stating, well, the blazingly obvious: In a December 2020 interview, Hiemstra predicted a correlation between COVID vaccination rates and the widespread return of U.S. employees to the office environment (ya think? Will he predict that heavy rains might cause floods next?), and has urged companies to employ smart strategies, products, and services to handle the large amounts of data that result from widespread digitization. (And here everyone else was advising them to employ dumb strategies; what a revelation.), as some examples but by no means an exhaustive list. So, instead of just being a collection of quotes or interviews (which are not independent), an article should be based upon what reliable and independent sources said about him, not what he said. If there isn't a substantial quantity of such material about him, he's not an appropriate subject for an article at all. If there is, stick to what those sources actually confirm was significant, and write about it in a neutral tone and manner. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 16:53, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. Mbochart (talk) 17:04, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Is semi-protection viable for a page in this scenario or just keep reverting edits?

I cannot seem to prevent an individual(s) from IP addresses performing edits, adding themselves as a mayor for a page for an unincorporated community that is ran by a township board of trustees. I have to keep removing this entry that the person keeps adding back in over the course of a year or so. This to make sure information on the page for the community is factually correct. Please advise and thanks. Boojiejuice (talk) 16:39, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@Boojiejuice I'd request protection, they usually only do it for vandalism that is hard to keep up with and this sounds like one of those cases. WP:RPP. Dylan | ✉ | ✓  16:47, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Response is appreciated. Will attempt Pending Changes/Semi-Protection status of page going forward. Thank you. Boojiejuice (talk) 16:54, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Someone defaming me on my Talk Page

A person has come to my talk page and called me a racist, a fascist and anti-Turkish and claims I am racist in every article about Turkey, and demand I should be banned. They have deleted it from current view, it could have been seen by thousands of people, it is still in the page history, so could be seen by thousands of people. Turkey is not a subject I have interest in, so no idea what every Turkey articles are? There might be an occasion overlap with my Roman Empire interest, I assume the person reacted in an extreme defaming manner due to me commenting on the Edirne article, as I had searched for Adrianople and been directed there, I asked about why there is no Adrianople article. It is a very common name seen when reading about Roman Empire history.

They said: (Redacted)

There was also user Dudhher in my notifications, that comment was completely gone, so I don't know how severe it was? Seems likely they are also 37.155.84.69 ? Middle More Rider (talk) 21:04, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@Middle More Rider I'm afraid you are likely to find you have triggered a Streisand effect by posting here at the Help Desk. The better venue is WP:ANI, using WP:DIFFS of the objectionable posts. Judging by the IP editors Talk Page, they are only a whisker away from a block already. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:21, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@Michael D. Turnbull I (nearly) had the same experience when I saw that some accounts were trying to vandalize my userpage (one was an IP, the other was an editor who seemingly tried to retaliate after I reported them for vandalism/disruptive editing). If you can help with this, where is the right place to ask for more protections on my page? It may not be needed right now, but it's always nice to have.

@Middle More Rider I think you can delete the comment if you want, as that's what someone suggested to me a while back when I was in your position. Hope this helps! Losipov (talk) 21:38, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@Middle More Rider: You can try emailing WP:OVERSIGHT about this. It's probably much faster than ANI. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:48, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

... but a little late, given this thread! That's what the Streisand effect is all about. Mike Turnbull (talk) 21:54, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, a little late, but starting a discussion about such a thing at ANI only seems to further the "Streisand effect". -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:59, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, to everyone who replied, I really appreciate the help. I will look into the suggestions, as mentioned though, I don't want masses more people to see what I don't want anyone to see???

Middle More Rider (talk) 01:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

I did try to send a request to oversight-en-wpwikipedia.org. but my email said it is a bad email address and would not send it.

Middle More Rider (talk) 02:18, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Middle More Rider for antispam purposes, most email adresses are obfuscated slightly to Prevent bots from easely recognizing them. Not all email adress programs can handle that, most often you have to type the Adress manually. Its oversight-en-wpwikipedia.org. Dudhhr most likely has nothing to do with this, looking at the page history they were the one to revert the 37.x.x.x IP (reverts also trigger notifications) Victor Schmidt (talk) 05:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@Middle More Rider: Did you click on the "email the oversight team" link at the top of WP:OVERSIGHT? If you're unable to use that link and directly emailing them as suggested above by Victor Schmidt doesn't work. You can try emailing one of the oversighers listed at WP:OVERSIGHT#Users with oversight permissions. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

problems with conformation e-mail

When opening the account I cannot confirm my e-mail address. I cannot get a confirmation code. Anna Bujarska Anna Helena Bujarska (talk) 21:05, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Comma or not?

On some pages, when there are several jobs, I have noticed that there is a comma between the penultimate and last job; on other pages, however, such as "Rocco Siffredi", this comma is not present. I would like to know whether it's correct to add it or not (I know it's a subtlety, but it's better to be as precise as possible than to be less so). JackkBrown (talk) 22:27, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: Either is correct, as long as it is consistent within the article. See MOS:SERIAL RudolfRed (talk) 22:30, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi JackkBrown. You seem to be asking about the Serial comma (also known as the "Oxford comma"). You'll find some information on how Wikipedia treats said comma at MOS:OXFORD. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:31, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

May 27

"Barbara D'Urso", not "Barbara d'Urso"

Could someone correct the title of this page? The correct title already exists and, therefore, I would not know how to correct the current title. It's spelled "D'Urso", not "d'Urso". JackkBrown (talk) 00:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: If you're having issues moving a page for technical issues, bring it up at Wikipedia:Technical move requests, not here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:41, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown you could propose a move on that article's talk page, and from there people can chime in and saywhether or not it should be moved (There will be a tag at the top of the page once a move is suggested, if you did not know already). That doesn't seem like a controversial rename, but it's still better to discuss it in my opinion. Losipov (talk) 00:48, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@Losipov: look here, please (uppercase): https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_D%27Urso. JackkBrown (talk) 00:51, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, the references in the article that use the capital "D" are reliable sources. The Italian Wikipedia article is not a reliable source. See WP:CIRCULAR. Cullen328 (talk) 01:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Can you help me with this page?

Hello, can you leave the page as it was before? is that someone edited it and can you please put the official information, Thank you.

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telet%C3%B3n_1978_(Chile) GasXD (talk) 01:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@GasXD: You are linking to the Spanish Wikipedia, which we have no say over here at the English Wikipedia. You'd need to discuss your issue over there at es:Wikipedia:Café/Archivo/Ayuda/Actual. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:21, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Berney baronets

Ref number 7 is not quite right. - please fix if you can. Thanks58.179.137.31 (talk) 02:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done, there was extra markup, causing the error message. Cmr08 (talk) 03:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Chronophilia

Reference help requested. I received a notification about a missing periodical citation error in formatting. I'm not sure exactly how to correct it, but I know an official editor/admin corrected such an error for me before, and would appreciate one doing so here. Here is the full information for the source cited, link and publication details: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/293334555_Hebephilic_Sexual_Offending "January 2016 DOI:10.1007/978-1-4939-2416-5_3 In book: Sexual offenders: Predisposing antecedents, assessments, and management (pp.29-44)Publisher: SpringerEditors: Amy Phenix, Harry Hoberman Authors: Skye Stephens Saint Mary's University Michael C Seto University of Ottawa"

Thanks, 2601:14D:4101:E4E0:F1F7:473F:5EBF:CD85 (talk) 03:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

You need to fill in the parameters like doi=123 which another editor has done so for you. Lightoil (talk) 04:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Not quite correct. The cited source is a chapter in a book, not a journal article (and the value assigned to |doi= always begins 10.. {{Cite journal}} requires |journal=; when it doesn't have that, the template emits an (alas, hidden) error message. The OP received the message when a bot detected the addition of Chronophilia to Category:CS1 errors: missing periodical. As I understand it, the bot is not currently monitoring Category:CS1 errors: missing periodical‎.

The correct fix is to use {{cite book}} with chapter title, book title, publisher, author(s), editor(s), etc (all that information listed in OP's post).

—Trappist the monk (talk) 12:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Source integrity issue

At this writing, I'm about to add a section in the DC Thomson page about a former subsidiary of theirs, long-obscure children's imprint Peter Haddock (h/t my latest Reddit comment). (What WP already has on file under this topic title refers to an English footballer who once played for Newcastle and Leeds United.) During my research a while ago, I found out that Thomson acquired Haddock in 1993, but the only proof of this claim is a company-history brochure on their official issuu account. My usual helping hands--EBSCO, Gale, ProQuest, and the newspaper archives--have absolutely nothing discussing this anecdote amid their already sparse coverage. (Not even The Times, a given for British subjects, is of any help here.)

TL/DR: Primary source with practically no companion independent coverage to go by. Like I said, "long obscure". Then again, Gale has an obituary on its eponymous founder (1931/32-2001), belated by a year--but that's not even enough to base an article on him. For now, all we'll put in is this tidbit re: DC Thomson's closure of the company by late 2013.

If I've posted in the wrong place, then I express my apologies. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 07:39, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Although ISFDB cannot be considered a Reliable source (being user-generated, like Wikipedia), it can provide useful clues. Currently it has only 2 Peter Haddock titles entries – see here (click on 'Priory Classics' for one and '1972' for the other). Probably not much help. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.199.210.77 (talk) 16:05, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Technical problem with logged-in editing

I can't edit Help Desk or Reference Desk pages while logged in. The screen looks like this. There's no button to click to publish the edit. Wikimedia Status says everything is fine. I can edit ordinary pages, so it seems to be something to do with a script or suchlike loaded on those pages. 2A02:C7C:9A0B:3500:7D8C:B8AB:B5DA:8E43 (talk) 11:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Hi all,

I have created a page for POLIS UNIVERSITY, and I wanted to publish it but I am not an editor.

I have just created a user two months ago.

How can make this possible? IQAU-2023 (talk) 11:30, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Courtesy link User:IQAU-2023/sandbox it is just blatant advertising and not acceptable in it's current form. Theroadislong (talk) 11:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Did you write User:IQAU-2023/sandbox yourself? (I suspect that you did not.) -- Hoary (talk) 11:38, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

"Being an integral part and fully embedded in the society and the local ecosystem has been part of its vision and mission since day one. It is inherent to the DNA of this institution to position itself as an actor with strong and effective ties to the local economy, to the policy makers and to the society at large." See WP:PEACOCK.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:46, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. ColinFine (talk) 12:10, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

The text appears to be largely copied and pasted from the university’s website, which is a copyright violation and therefore unacceptable under any circumstances, and I have tagged the page for speedy deletion on that basis. --Finngall ^talk 14:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Help me

hey! I need some help from you guys. One user again reverted my edits without any specific reason and said "Block evading sock" Bruhh is here (talk) 14:35, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

 Note: A sockpuppet investigation involving this user has been opened. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Converting drafts into userboxes

Hello! Since I've remembered about this draft I've created a while ago, which hardly meets WP:GNG as of now, I just wanted to ask if there's a way to turn the page into a personal userbox, so I can keep on working on it while reducing the backlog. Should I just use the "Move" function? Oltrepier (talk) 15:53, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Oltrepier as it is a "Draft article not currently submitted for review." it is not part of the backlog. Continue working on it where it is as only after you have submitted it, does it join the queue - best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:36, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@Arjayay Good, but I can still move the page to the user space if I needed to, right? Oltrepier (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Oltrepier If you want to move it to your sandbox, you can. Ignoring the bots and the reverted sock, you are, effectively, the only editor. If there had been substantial edits by other editors, it should stay as a draft. - Arjayay (talk) 16:55, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@Arjayay Ok, thank you for your help! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 17:11, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Citation Errors

Hello. I just created the article List of songs recorded by For King & Country and it appears that I have many citation errors. I'm not a citation expert, and Citation Bot doesn't find anything to fix. Could somebody go in there and fix all of the citations that need fixing? Cherrell410 (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Does the (help) text for those errors not tell you what you need to know to fix them?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:56, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

 Done - All but one of the errors was caused by non-printing space being inserted into the titles. This is probably due to cut-and-paste which can give all sorts of hidden errors. If you can't sort them out, retype them to get rid of the problem. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:00, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Alrighty, thanks! Cherrell410 (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

My profile is not showing

My profile is not showing when I search in wikipedia Manshad Manzz (talk) 16:19, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Manshad Manzz, Wikipedia does not have "profiles", we are not Facebook. You have a user page at Manshad Manzz which is not meant to show in an article search, because it is not an article. Please read Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not for a more detailed explanation. Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 16:31, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

What counts as WP:GNG for movies?

I recently came across an article, Hitler's Grave, and noticed it has one source, which only gives the movie a passing mention. However, after googling the film online to find more sources, I only found some review websites like Rotten Tomatoes. Do these count as reliable sources, or does it not pass WP:GNG? RteeeeKed💬📖 16:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

@RteeeeKed: Take a look at WP:NFILM for the guideline. RudolfRed (talk) 17:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, will do. RteeeeKed💬📖 20:11, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

RteeeeKed, Rotten Tomatoes is an aggregator that can be used cautiously. One of its most useful features is that it often links to professional critical reviews published in reliable sources. Read Wikipedia:Review aggregators for more information. In this particular case, their coverage of the film is negligible, and does not include any critic reviews. Cullen328 (talk) 20:25, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

After checking the other two things that were related (the other films were for a different film named Burial), I've concluded that there isn't enough coverage to justify a Wikipedia article. Already been nominated for deletion. RteeeeKed💬📖 20:39, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Deleted page

My name is Graham Fulton. I'm a a poet and I've had a page on Wikipedia for over ten years. I went to check on it today for the first time in a while and find that it no longer exists! Why is this, and how can get it reinstated. 46.208.66.82 (talk) 17:28, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Graham_Fulton. Articles about poets need to meet WP:NPOET, which apparently is not the case here. RudolfRed (talk) 17:49, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Hello, Graham. Wikipedia's article about you (which was never "your page") was deleted last month: you can see the deletion discussion here. It was concluded there there were not enough independent reliable substantial sources about you to meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability.

If you can find several sources about you (not from you or your associates) that each meet the golden rule, then it is possible that Wikipedia could again have an article about you - you are strongly discouraged from attempting to write it yourself, but if you can find such sources and present them here, then there is a possibility somebody might be willing to have a go. Alternatively, if you present them at WT:WikiProject Poetry somebody there might be interested.

However, if you cannot find such sources, please do not spend any more time on this or ask anybody else to do so.

You might also care to have a look at An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. ColinFine (talk) 17:50, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Username policy violation on foreign-language Wikipedia

A bit back, I was browsing through Wikipedia and came across a link to the Arabic Wikipedia, which I clicked out of curiosity. Since it was in Arabic, I left, but soon after an automated bot welcomed me. I didn't care, since I wouldn't likely contribute to the Arabic Wikipedia since I don't speak it. But yesterday, I got a message on my talk page saying that my username violated the username policy on the Arabic Wikipedia and that if I did not request a username change within seven days, I would be blocked on the Arabic Wikipedia. (at least, that's what my browser's built-in translator said)

I don't want to change my username, as, of course, that would change my username here too. I also can't respond to the post well, as I would have to use Google Translate. My question is: What should I do here, and would a block there affect my editing here in some way? interstatefive  18:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Interstatefive, other users seem to have had the same problem and resolved it at User talk:Dr-Taher. TSventon (talk) 18:37, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

From the comments there, it seems that it's fine to allow the block on the Arabic Wikipedia. After all, it will be a soft block, so if I suddenly learn Arabic and want to contribute there, I can just create a new account. interstatefive  18:42, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

I can recommend Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library, which you [generally] can't use if you are blocked on any project. The message seems unhelpful when addressed to editors who have no interest in editing ar Wikipedia, but it may well be in line with ar Wikipedia rules. TSventon (talk) 18:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

So TWL will be the only effect of an Arabic Wikipedia block here? interstatefive  19:23, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

I don't know what other effects there might be, but you can probably worry about further problems if and when they happen. I am tempted to ask Dr-Taher if they could confine their blocks to editors who actually edit ar Wikipedia, but without much hope of success. TSventon (talk) 20:16, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Miss Italia

Could someone correct the title of this page? Italics should not be inserted. JackkBrown (talk) 23:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

You will need to know how Wikipedia works on Template:Renaming. Bruhh is here (talk) 01:48, 28 May 2023 (UTC)