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Frenemies
Presentation
StarringEthan Klein
Trisha Paytas
GenreComedy
Drama
Length53-153 minutes
Production
No. of episodes
  • 39 (podcast)
  • 2 (vlogs)
Publication
Original releaseSeptember 15, 2020 –
June 8, 2021
ProviderH3 Podcast

Frenemies was a podcast hosted by Trisha Paytas and Ethan Klein on the H3 Podcast YouTube channel. The podcast focused on discussing personal experiences, pop culture, internet drama, mental health,[1] and more. It consisted of 39 episodes and two accompanying vlogs. Paytas and Klein's friendship, was occasionally tumultuous, leading to episodes that were incomplete due to a verbal argument.[2] The podcast came to an end during its 39th episode, after a dispute with Paytas and Klein about podcast revenue[3] and production ownership.[4] Despite this, "Frenemies" gained recognition in the podcasting realm and found a place in numerous Top 50 lists,[5][6] frequently pulling in millions of viewers per episode.[7][4]

Background

In May 2019, YouTuber Ethan Klein of H3H3Productions released a video titled "Instagram vs. Reality," in which he criticized the heavy editing and filtering of photos on social media.[8][9] In this video he criticized Paytas’s excessive editing of their photos. Paytas responded with a series of tweets, calling Klein a "disgusting piece of shit" and accusing him of causing harm to young girls.[10][11] The two engaged in a back-and-forth exchange, with Klein mocking Paytas in subsequent videos.

Eventually, Klein and Paytas reconciled and even appeared together on the H3 Podcast in October of 2019. Following this, the Kleins had Paytas back on the podcast to compete in their series entitled "the BacH3lorette," a parody of ABC's The Bachelorette. It was this time that Paytas connected with Moses Hacmon, brother of HIla Klien, Ethan's wife and, during the inital COVID-19 lockdowns of 2020, started a relationship with Hacmon[12] whom she later married.[13] In September of 2020, the podcast was launched, with the first episodes' title ("Trisha's New Boyfriend Is Hila's Brother - Frenemies #1") referencing the start of their relationship.[14]

Content

Frenemies primarily revolved around Paytas and Klein's unique friendship and the dynamic that came with it. The podcast was described as having a very open dialog about mental health[2][15]. They often engaged in feuds with other creators, such as members of the Vlog Squad.[16] On occasions, the podcast featured guests, such as Dr. Drew Pinsky[17], Jeff Wittek[18][19], and Hila Klein.

Show ending

In the ending of Episode 39 (entitled "Talking About Gabbie Hanna - Frenemies # 39") Klein and Paytas got into a dispute over the production of the podcast and the revenue sharing they had set up[20] which ultimately led to Paytas leaving set before the podcast had ended. Klein had set up a 55/45 revenue share for the podcast, claiming that his extra 5% would be utilized to cover additional production costs[21]. The H3 Podcast announced on Twitter once the episode had been published "New episode with a heavy heart as it is our last[22]." The pair feuded on Twitter before ultimately both deleting tweets[20] they had made about each other, with Paytas adding "I don’t want enemies. I’ve tried really hard to make amends with people I’ve been in “drama” with. I don’t want it."[23] Paytas said in a video statement that she was grateful for the experience, but was ultimately firm in her decision to "step away" from the show[20]. Klein echoed this sentiment with a video response[24] and several Twitter statements, adding that he "[knew] how much it meant to everyone" and "did everything [he] humanly could to save it.[25]"

Legacy and follow up shows

After the ending of the show, Klein started a new podcast, entitled "Families," as the successor to the Frenemies podcast. The podcast featured him and his mother Donna Klein, and retained similar branding and the same set as the Frenemies podcast[26]. The Families podcast ended after 10 episodes, with one additional reunion episode taking place as a "holiday special."[27] In June of 2022, Klein released a video entitled "Frenemies Is Back & Short Lived[28]" featuring himself and musician Oliver Tree hosting an episode of the show on the Frenemies set[29]. In May of 2023, Trisha Paytas and YouTuber Colleen Ballinger announced their new podcast "Oversharing[30][31]."

References

  1. ^ Dodgson, Lindsay. "A podcast hosted by 2 of YouTube's most controversial personalities is creating new conversations about mental health". Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  2. ^ a b "'Frenemies' Is The Most Unexpectedly Cathartic Podcast on the Internet". Junkee. 2021-04-13. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  3. ^ Hampton, Rachelle; Kircher, Madison Malone (2021-06-12). "The Inexplicable Saga of Internet Provocateur Trisha Paytas, Explained". Slate. ISSN 1091-2339. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  4. ^ a b Bergman, Lindsay Dodgson, Sirena. "How 'Frenemies,' one of YouTube's buzziest podcasts, crashed and burned in less than a week". Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  5. ^ "Podcasting Hasn't Produced A New Hit in Years". Bloomberg.com. 2022-01-09. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  6. ^ "Edison Research Top 50 Podcasts". www.edisonresearch.com. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  7. ^ "Trisha Paytas steps down from 'Frenemies' podcast after tense dispute on the show". Mashable. 2021-06-08. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  8. ^ Colombo, Lindsay Dodgson, Palmer Haasch, Charlotte. "A timeline of Trisha Paytas' turbulent history with H3H3's Ethan Klein, from body-shaming to Paytas quitting 'Frenemies'". Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  9. ^ "Ethan Klein speaks out on Trisha Paytas' 'Frenemies' departure, Paytas responds". Mashable. 2021-06-10. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  10. ^ "Trisha Paytas calls H3H3 a "disgusting piece of shit" because of video 'exposing' her photoshop". Dexerto. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  11. ^ "https://twitter.com/trishapaytas/status/1126485496928935936?lang=en". Twitter. Retrieved 2023-05-31. {{cite web}}: External link in |title= (help)
  12. ^ Trisha Paytas Ruins The H3 Podcast - H3 Podcast #184, retrieved 2023-05-31
  13. ^ "Ethan Klein blamed Trisha Paytas' fans for accusations that Teddy Fresh is a 'toxic' work environment". Business Insider. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  14. ^ "H3 Podcast: Frenemies #1 - Trisha's New Boyfriend Is Hila's Brother on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. Retrieved 2023-05-31.
  15. ^ Jan 8, Lindsay Dodgson; 2021; Et, 12:22 Pm. "Frenemies podcast: H3H3, Trisha Paytas create mental health discussion". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01. {{cite web}}: |last2= has numeric name (help)CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
  16. ^ II, Moises Mendez. "David Dobrik said he injured his childhood friend in a 2016 video resurfaced after Jeff Wittek's accident". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  17. ^ "‎H3 Podcast: The Fate Of Frenemies With Dr. Drew - Frenemies #14 on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  18. ^ Haylock, Florence O'Connor, Zoe (2022-06-27). "A Timeline of the David Dobrik Allegations and Controversies". Vulture. Retrieved 2023-06-01.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  19. ^ Nolan, Emma (2021-04-22). "David Dobrik Accused of Endangering Jeff Wittek's Life With Dangerous Stunt". Newsweek. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  20. ^ a b c "Trisha Paytas Explains Why They Quit Popular 'Frenemies' Podcast". Nylon. 2021-06-09. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  21. ^ Tenbarge, Kat. "Trisha Paytas denied being antisemitic after calling Ethan Klein 'Jewy' while the podcast co-hosts discussed money". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  22. ^ "https://twitter.com/theh3podcast/status/1402322524856225796?s=20". Twitter. Retrieved 2023-06-01. {{cite web}}: External link in |title= (help)
  23. ^ "https://twitter.com/trishapaytas/status/1402622362843975682?s=20". Twitter. Retrieved 2023-06-01. {{cite web}}: External link in |title= (help)
  24. ^ Regarding Trisha Quitting Frenemies, retrieved 2023-06-01
  25. ^ "https://twitter.com/h3h3productions/status/1402330347992358919?s=20". Twitter. Retrieved 2023-06-01. {{cite web}}: External link in |title= (help)
  26. ^ "H3H3 reveal why they ended 'Families' podcast after Frenemies drama". Dexerto. Retrieved 2023-06-02.
  27. ^ "Families - YouTube". www.youtube.com. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  28. ^ Frenemies Is Back & Short Lived, retrieved 2023-06-01
  29. ^ "Ethan Klein brings back Frenemies podcast without Trisha Paytas". Dexerto. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  30. ^ Weiss, Geoff. "YouTube OGs Trisha Paytas and Colleen Ballinger started a podcast — and even they're aware it could go up in flames like 'Frenemies'". Insider. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
  31. ^ "‎Oversharing with Colleen Ballinger & Trisha Paytas on Apple Podcasts". Apple Podcasts. 2023-05-30. Retrieved 2023-06-01.
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