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International gold medals are in the infobox already, can there be professional championships as well (i.e. stanley cups, calder cups, gagarin etc.) [[Special:Contributions/208.95.102.100|208.95.102.100]] ([[User talk:208.95.102.100|talk]]) 19:08, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
International gold medals are in the infobox already, can there be professional championships as well (i.e. stanley cups, calder cups, gagarin etc.) [[Special:Contributions/208.95.102.100|208.95.102.100]] ([[User talk:208.95.102.100|talk]]) 19:08, 20 June 2023 (UTC)


:This falls into the same category as the previous infobox discussion, and it is unnecessary clutter to add, when it can be easily covered in the article itself. Also, most league titles aren't a defining achievement - knowing a player's team won the Calder for example, tells me absolutely nothing valuable about a player. I might not mind if Stanley Cups alone were added by consensus, but it would likley open the can of worms to the various other titles and isn't worth it. [[User:Echoedmyron|Echoedmyron]] ([[User talk:Echoedmyron|talk]]) 20:41, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. This falls into the same category as the previous infobox discussion, and it is unnecessary clutter to add, when it can be easily covered in the article itself. Also, most league titles aren't a defining achievement - knowing a player's team won the Calder for example, tells me absolutely nothing valuable about a player. I might not mind if Stanley Cups alone were added by consensus, but it would likley open the can of worms to the various other titles and isn't worth it. [[User:Echoedmyron|Echoedmyron]] ([[User talk:Echoedmyron|talk]]) 20:41, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

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Is there a reason why the infoboxes are so bland compared to other sports?

Title. I just am of the opinion that it would look more interesting and more vibrant to expand on the infobox; adding a career highlights/accomplishments section, jersey number, a more detailed history on teams, stuff like that. Is there a reason why this isn't the case? 172.108.153.162 (talk) 20:45, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly, it's to avoid having excessive stats in the infobox and avoid bloat. Primefac (talk) 08:16, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Opinions on adding relatives field

I do know that there seems to be a concerted effort to keep the infoboxes small for hockey players, which I think is generally a good idea to make them more readable. After having read through the archives and being unable to find a similar discussion, I was wondering what people's thoughts are on adding a relatives field similar to that which exists on {{Infobox person}}. The rationale for this being, I was reading Dave Dryden's article and I was struck that Murray Dryden at the least wasn't mentioned there but also Ken Dryden. Having said that, I do understand that the field often tends to violate BLP as it seems like family information tends to be less often source. With that said, what are others' thoughts? TartarTorte 18:12, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it sounds like a great idea. I know in Some infoboxes of other notable people like actors there is a field that shows relatives and their relation to the main page. Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 08:01, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 24 February 2023

Add college_team parameter either above or below draft information to indicate where a player went to college. Hardknicklife (talk) 14:09, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit template-protected}} template. Primefac (talk) 14:29, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add Infobox Fields

I understand length is an issue but compare it to Template:Infobox baseball biography or Template:Infobox NFL biography this template is overly short and does not capture the quick information that readers look for in an infobox: easy and quick facts and stats. Most readers come to Wikipedia for quick info and do not read the whole article.

Parameters to add

- Stats like Template:Infobox NFL biography and Template:Infobox baseball biography

- Team colors as seen in Template:Infobox baseball biography

- Seasons that players have been with teams next to the team name like Template:Infobox baseball biography and Template:Infobox NFL biography

- International Metals like Template:Infobox baseball biography

- Also It should be formatted so that you can have multiple major league hockey leagues and corresponding stats like Template:Infobox baseball biography and Template:Infobox NFL biography

- Change NHL Team and Former Teams to a combined teams parameter like in Template:Infobox baseball biography and Template:Infobox NFL biography along with the league years that they were on that team and for their current team: League Year–present Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 04:37, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This has been discussed many times so oppose everything. In addition, I notified WP:NHL of this proposal. – sbaio 16:13, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As this has been discussed a lot in the past and these are not broken, I would say no. Deadman137 (talk) 22:02, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly oppose as per MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE. The purpose of an infobox is "to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article". Hockey articles already have stats and seasons in the body, these do not need to be in the infobox. Team colours are useless decoration. International medals are not needed, as the national team is already listed, and statistics in a chart. Less is more. Stop the senseless clutter. Flibirigit (talk) 22:23, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I also think the NFL/baseball templates have too much information, but I much prefer their general appearance/layout (I’m not referring to adding team colors for active players, which I don’t care about one way or the other). I would welcome such cosmetic changes for the hockey template that incorporates the existing parameters, but otherwise oppose adding more things to it. --NHL04 (talk) 03:49, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose all. Team colors not needed, wikipedia is not a coloring book. Player articles already have stats tables, is it that arduous to scroll down to see them? Not to mention the arbitrary cherry picking of which stats to include in an infobox - what does the goal total for a stay at home defenceman tell the casual reader? Infobox already has a field for a national team, and a separate medals table can be used. Years with teams are also already in the stats tables. Echoedmyron (talk) 13:58, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly Oppose all. Most other sports infoboxes are a mess and these go against the purpose of an infobox. -DJSasso (talk) 12:03, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add career highlights / championships

International gold medals are in the infobox already, can there be professional championships as well (i.e. stanley cups, calder cups, gagarin etc.) 208.95.102.100 (talk) 19:08, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This falls into the same category as the previous infobox discussion, and it is unnecessary clutter to add, when it can be easily covered in the article itself. Also, most league titles aren't a defining achievement - knowing a player's team won the Calder for example, tells me absolutely nothing valuable about a player. I might not mind if Stanley Cups alone were added by consensus, but it would likley open the can of worms to the various other titles and isn't worth it. Echoedmyron (talk) 20:41, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]