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General note: Not adhering to neutral point of view on Graham Hancock.
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[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Doug Weller|Doug Weller]]. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]]. Your recent edit to [[:Graham Hancock]] seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Doug Weller|my talk page]]. ''Removing a hidden notice telling you not to change text should have been a hint it was a bad idea and that you should use the talk page. Please never do this again, use talk pages to get consensus.'' <!-- Template:uw-npov1 --> [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 12:54, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
[[File:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Doug Weller|Doug Weller]]. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutral point of view]]. Your recent edit to [[:Graham Hancock]] seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Doug Weller|my talk page]]. ''Removing a hidden notice telling you not to change text should have been a hint it was a bad idea and that you should use the talk page. Please never do this again, use talk pages to get consensus.'' <!-- Template:uw-npov1 --> [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 12:54, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

:Dear Mr Weller, I appreciate your response.
:I edited the article as it stated that Hancock supports pseudoscience , he dose not. He is an investigative journalist who has developed a theory supported by geological and historical studies, studies conducted by academics who followed accepted scientific methods. The inaccuracy of the statement alongside the instruction “''Do not change it to '''softer words''' (e.g., unconventional) or it will be reverted''” clearly demonstrates that the author of the page did not intend to be neutral, violating clause 3.3 of [[foundation:Policy:Universal_Code_of_Conduct|Wikipedia’s Universal Code of Conduct]], as the miss-use of the term ''Pseudoscientific'' is libelous and is a clear disregard of the fundamental principles of objectivity enshrined within this encyclopedia’s mission.
:I find it intriguing that the guidelines contained within the hyperlink that you provided regarding Neutrality do not appear to have been followed by the author of the article to which you are referring, the use of the term ''Pseudoscientific'' has a strong sense of judgment and contempt. Likewise the use of phrases such as “He attempts to show…” is once again condescending and undue. Hancock’s work is supported by scientific evidence and similar views are held by members of the scientific community, admittedly it’s is a minority, however calling him a Pseudoscientific writer is not justified. The author also did not spend sufficient time in their explanation of Hancock’s theory, in two cases proving links to biographical articles rather than paleoclimatology. My edit did not alter any factual content contained within the article, but removed the term pseudoscientific as it implies an absence of scientific evidence or consensus, however Hancock has repeatedly cited academic studies in his work.
:I find that the original article was the one that was the one that “seemed less than neutral”, it was my primary intention to remain objective. My edit was solely based of factual information rather than opinion. I apologise that I used the wrong method to conduct the rectification, I will conduct myself in a more orthodox manner and request the appropriate change over the talk page. I was confused at the time as it stated that “this channel is now closed” when I opened the page.
:Yours sincerely Thomas H [[User:ThomasKCH|ThomasKCH]] ([[User talk:ThomasKCH#top|talk]]) 12:29, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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Information icon Hello, I'm Doug Weller. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Graham Hancock seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Removing a hidden notice telling you not to change text should have been a hint it was a bad idea and that you should use the talk page. Please never do this again, use talk pages to get consensus. Doug Weller talk 12:54, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Mr Weller, I appreciate your response.
I edited the article as it stated that Hancock supports pseudoscience , he dose not. He is an investigative journalist who has developed a theory supported by geological and historical studies, studies conducted by academics who followed accepted scientific methods. The inaccuracy of the statement alongside the instruction “Do not change it to softer words (e.g., unconventional) or it will be reverted” clearly demonstrates that the author of the page did not intend to be neutral, violating clause 3.3 of Wikipedia’s Universal Code of Conduct, as the miss-use of the term Pseudoscientific is libelous and is a clear disregard of the fundamental principles of objectivity enshrined within this encyclopedia’s mission.
I find it intriguing that the guidelines contained within the hyperlink that you provided regarding Neutrality do not appear to have been followed by the author of the article to which you are referring, the use of the term Pseudoscientific has a strong sense of judgment and contempt. Likewise the use of phrases such as “He attempts to show…” is once again condescending and undue. Hancock’s work is supported by scientific evidence and similar views are held by members of the scientific community, admittedly it’s is a minority, however calling him a Pseudoscientific writer is not justified. The author also did not spend sufficient time in their explanation of Hancock’s theory, in two cases proving links to biographical articles rather than paleoclimatology. My edit did not alter any factual content contained within the article, but removed the term pseudoscientific as it implies an absence of scientific evidence or consensus, however Hancock has repeatedly cited academic studies in his work.
I find that the original article was the one that was the one that “seemed less than neutral”, it was my primary intention to remain objective. My edit was solely based of factual information rather than opinion. I apologise that I used the wrong method to conduct the rectification, I will conduct myself in a more orthodox manner and request the appropriate change over the talk page. I was confused at the time as it stated that “this channel is now closed” when I opened the page.
Yours sincerely Thomas H ThomasKCH (talk) 12:29, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]