Talk:Dream

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Wiki Education assignment: ENGL 312

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 13 June 2022 and 5 August 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Hermp9348 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Sydney,schroeder0725.

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"Bicameral mentality" in lead?

I am not convinced that the following sentence belongs in the lead of this article: "The brain activity capable of formulating such dreams, rare among literate people in later eras, conforms to the bicameral mentality hypothesized by Julian Jaynes as dominant into the second or first millennium BCE." This seems... speculative, and in any case certainly not relevant enough to be in the lead. The bicameral mentality thing isn't exactly a popular, well-known concept, and people aren't coming to the lead of this article for the purpose of reading assertions about whether the known content of some ancient dreams appear to confirm some obscure psychological theory.

I propose this be deleted altogether, or, at the very least, moved to a different section of the page and sourced, as it currently stands as an assertion without a citation. I will add a citation needed tag, and if nobody objects within a few days, I will probably come back and delete the sentence altogether.

--Sensorfire (✎|‽) 03:19, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

I have come back to this after over a month, and since no further discussion has been had about this, and no citation has been given or more detail provided within the article, I have decided to remove the text altogether.

--Sensorfire (✎|‽) 01:24, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

Spiderman ride horse

Spiderman ride horse 5.125.9.167 (talk) 22:01, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Better image?

I don't think that the current image is representative of the topic, because we don't float on top of our body when we dream – dream is an internal thing in our minds. Ideally, the best image would be the one that closely resemble dreams in our mind, but beyond that I'm currently stumped. Does anybody here has any other idea? CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 15:23, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

commons:Category:Dreaming in art has a lot to offer.

Perhaps a more literal thinks-bubble cartoon like File:A dream (BM 1868,0808.9057).jpg would be helpful, but I think Bryullov's painting is clearly doing the same thing in a different way. There's also File:Tatiana Larina's dream by Volkov (1891).jpg, although its resolution is quite low.

I think a picture of a person in a bed with something weird happening above them is more recognisable as a dream, than a direct depiction of the kind of thing that might happen in a dream, which could just be read as the weird thing itself. You suggested the AI-generated File:Fantasy Art 2022 The Ninth Dream by David S. Soriano.png a while back, and there are paintings such as File:Moritz Stifter - Allegorie des Traums.jpg on Commons that also show a third-person perspective of a person within a dream, but I'm not sure a viewer's first thought for either of those would be "ah, a dream" - the "what our readers will expect to see" of MOS:LEADIMAGE. Belbury (talk) 15:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

I didn't know that it's an AI generated art, I genuinely think that this some human painted it or something. But anyways, I don't think that picking one single image would be possible here, and maybe that maybe we should use {{multiple image}} to add pictures of different perspectives on what a dream is. One image could have a "dream in a bubble", another could have allegorical paintings, etc. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 16:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Belbury, actually, it may worth a shot to replace the lead pic with File:A dream (BM 1868,0808.9057).jpg, because it's somewhat clearer and more literal. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 21:48, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2023

2607:FB91:2C49:400A:715C:7AFB:D2A6:B0C1 (talk) 11:00, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

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