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*::::I would like to point out that the "scholarly article" is a random bachelor's thesis. I don't speak Swedish, but the English version of its abstract is completely incoherent. [[User:Doctor Duh|Dr. Duh]] [[Special:Random|🩺]] ([[User talk:Doctor Duh#top|talk]]) 11:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC) |
*::::I would like to point out that the "scholarly article" is a random bachelor's thesis. I don't speak Swedish, but the English version of its abstract is completely incoherent. [[User:Doctor Duh|Dr. Duh]] [[Special:Random|🩺]] ([[User talk:Doctor Duh#top|talk]]) 11:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC) |
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*::::I guess AZcentral verifies subscriber counts and profession, but most of that article is a bit weak for BLP (routine house sales and household details and such). The consensus seems to be that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?fulltext=Search+the+noticeboard+archives&fulltext=Search&prefix=Wikipedia%3AReliable+sources%2FNoticeboard&search=sportskeeda&ns0=1&ns4=1&ns8=1&ns10=1 Sportskeeda is unreliable]. [[WP:SCHOLARSHIP]] doesn't suggest Bachelors theses as a reliable secondary source. Maybe just [[WP:TOOSOON]]. —[[User:Siroxo|siro]][[User talk:Siroxo|''χ'']][[Special:Contributions/Siroxo|o]] 12:23, 14 July 2023 (UTC) |
*::::I guess AZcentral verifies subscriber counts and profession, but most of that article is a bit weak for BLP (routine house sales and household details and such). The consensus seems to be that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?fulltext=Search+the+noticeboard+archives&fulltext=Search&prefix=Wikipedia%3AReliable+sources%2FNoticeboard&search=sportskeeda&ns0=1&ns4=1&ns8=1&ns10=1 Sportskeeda is unreliable]. [[WP:SCHOLARSHIP]] doesn't suggest Bachelors theses as a reliable secondary source. Maybe just [[WP:TOOSOON]]. —[[User:Siroxo|siro]][[User talk:Siroxo|''χ'']][[Special:Contributions/Siroxo|o]] 12:23, 14 July 2023 (UTC) |
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*:::::Didn't realise Sportskeeda was user contributed. I'll once again be surprised this doesn't fit with our notability standards, probably because this is the Youtube personality I've actually heard of, but it's hard to find media which clearly passes GNG. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:top;">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|T]]</span>''·''<span style="font-size:small; vertical-align:bottom;">[[Special:Contributions/SportingFlyer|C]]</span>'' 13:37, 14 July 2023 (UTC) |
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Youtuber. Fails WP:GNG. No notability. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:27, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Internet. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:27, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - I found [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], etc. Clearly notable, literally has over 30000000 subsrcibers, many sources like in ongoing high profile career. Article needs improvement, to deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 05:27, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Please consider adding independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage. Many of the sources you provided here are a bit lacking, try to find 2 or 3 of the best. See WP:GNG. Also note big numbers won't get a lot of traction here. —siroχo 10:08, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Most of those are trivial mentions or in sources we don't consider notable. Sub numbers aren't really a marker of reliability here, as they can be bought. Unless she's had in independent auditing firm confirm her numbers, we can't use them. Oaktree b (talk) 13:27, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- Comment The article might be notable, but it doesn't provide the best sourcing in its current condition. Conyo14 (talk) 06:28, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Entertainment. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:01, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete - large amounts of internet points do not automatically make one notable. does not include reliable sources, either. DrowssapSMM (talk) 22:22, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:28, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Hardly anything found in RS, most is PR stuff [10], this is about the most non-PR thing I can find [11]. Oaktree b (talk) 13:25, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Surprised this was even nominated, but I'm also surprised the WP:BEFORE searches don't make notability here crystal clear. Mentioned in a few books and a couple scholarly articles. Would like to do a better recent media search than the major search engines allow. SportingFlyer T·C 21:46, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- Also surprised this was previously deleted. It's the inverse of famously not famous - not famously famous? SportingFlyer T·C 21:49, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- Can you provide WP:THREE, as nothing I've found has really sufficed. As such, I'm leaning toward delete but haven't bolded a !vote yet. —siroχo 22:36, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- The Azcentral and Sportkeeda articles Das osmnezz posted I think pass GNG, not all of those do but there's a couple in that mix I can't tell whether they do or not. There's a scholarly article as well but not familiar with that journal, along with other mentions. There are a few book mentions as well. As I said, I'm surprised it's not easy to find more - for instance she was at a Hollywood premiere but there's nothing but pictures of her from that premiere. SportingFlyer T·C 11:13, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- I would like to point out that the "scholarly article" is a random bachelor's thesis. I don't speak Swedish, but the English version of its abstract is completely incoherent. Dr. Duh 🩺 (talk) 11:49, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- I guess AZcentral verifies subscriber counts and profession, but most of that article is a bit weak for BLP (routine house sales and household details and such). The consensus seems to be that Sportskeeda is unreliable. WP:SCHOLARSHIP doesn't suggest Bachelors theses as a reliable secondary source. Maybe just WP:TOOSOON. —siroχo 12:23, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Didn't realise Sportskeeda was user contributed. I'll once again be surprised this doesn't fit with our notability standards, probably because this is the Youtube personality I've actually heard of, but it's hard to find media which clearly passes GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 13:37, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- The Azcentral and Sportkeeda articles Das osmnezz posted I think pass GNG, not all of those do but there's a couple in that mix I can't tell whether they do or not. There's a scholarly article as well but not familiar with that journal, along with other mentions. There are a few book mentions as well. As I said, I'm surprised it's not easy to find more - for instance she was at a Hollywood premiere but there's nothing but pictures of her from that premiere. SportingFlyer T·C 11:13, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Can you provide WP:THREE, as nothing I've found has really sufficed. As such, I'm leaning toward delete but haven't bolded a !vote yet. —siroχo 22:36, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
- Also surprised this was previously deleted. It's the inverse of famously not famous - not famously famous? SportingFlyer T·C 21:49, 13 July 2023 (UTC)