Talk:Egypt

Ignored Linear B, A name

The article only mentions the supposed origin for copt (it seems to have been originally for a cat), however the older attestation for Misr in that text from the same region is ignored a Linear B tablet also has Misr in it. d mi-sa-ra-jo (Misraios, also etymologically ‘man of Egypt’ [MiÒr] (KN F 841.4) (cf. SHELMERDINE 2008, §5.4.2.2, BENNET, J. 1985, The Structure of the Linear B Administration at Knossos, AJA 89, 231-49), not to mention it is likely older "(misr), more commonly found in Akkadian and Ugaritic documents from Syro-Palestine and Mesopotamia (Cline 1993: 18). Mis-sa-ra-jo appears on Knossos tablet KN F 841+867, possibly used as a man’s name, which Cline believes was meant to be pronounced as Misraios (Cline 1994: 128).

And undounbtedly older still its attestation as Misr in Linear A (CH # 333, A1) (Best & Woudhuizen 1988: 50-51; most recently and comprehensively Achterberge.a. 2004: 104; Landau 1958: 270. Cf. Luwian hieroglyphic Mizra “Egypt” (Karkamis A6, § 4), see Woudhuizen 2015a: 280 and the composite personal name Mizramuwas) in the oldest dated Minoan Tablet.

Further references for Misr in Linear texts https://www.jstor.org/stable/3853586

https://books.google.com/books?id=7KemAwAAQBAJ&pg=PT133&lpg=PT133&dq=misraios+linear&source=bl&ots=Zxoo0-1hY7&sig=ACfU3U2maplXzvLYndDdT400MVDR6Cx4fQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjczsnlmOzxAhUUOs0KHbFVBHoQ6AEwEHoECBQQAw#v=onepage&q=misraios%20&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=VOsUAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=%22mi-sa-ra-jo%22&source=bl&ots=GqJzZXqicW&sig=ACfU3U2ehtSiZWXcs0q-eRcrhcZQTE_wmw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjlj8e8mOzxAhX8B50JHetUApQQ6AEwBHoECAoQAw#v=onepage&q=%22mi-sa-ra-jo%22&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=EHu-DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT1213&lpg=PT1213&dq=linear+A+museum+tablet+misraios&source=bl&ots=SK7P7ajcNZ&sig=ACfU3U1uKklU43-uagxpqBBp8JqSKIwuXA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjngKDKpuzxAhXLZc0KHbcVArYQ6AEwB3oECBYQAw#v=onepage&q=linear%20A%20museum%20tablet%20misraios&f=false

http://www.palaeolexicon.com/Word/Show/26969

https://www.jstor.org/stable/4433744?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents

https://www.academia.edu/1547735/Politics_of_the_sea_in_the_Late_Bronze_Age_II_III_Aegean_Iconographic_preferences_and_textual_perspectives

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/cambridge-archaeological-journal/article/memories-into-images-aegean-and-aegeanlike-objects-in-new-kingdom-egyptian-theban-tombs/73A212AC959151082FCCF4022403D540

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 November 2022

The driving side is left throughout my country not right like what was mentioned in the article. Thanks. 197.35.187.154 (talk) 22:26, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: Cars in Egypt drive on the right. That is what is meant. CMD (talk) 01:40, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Why the British spelling variant?

Why was the British spelling variant chosen for this article?

Contemporary Egyptians don't exclusively learn British English and are barely exposed to any British English. Even at universities, the American spelling and terms dominate. Egypt was not as directly influenced or culturally connected to the UK as, e.g. India or Burma to justify the choice. You'll even notice that Egyptian official ministries use American English, not British English

Examples:

• The Egyptian Ministry of Defense, not defence [1]
• The Central Bank of Egypt uses realizing not realising [2]
• The Egyptian Government Portal uses modernizing not modernising [3]
• Cairo University's website uses organizes not organises [4]
• Upon choosing the English version of the State Information Service, the URL is clearly coded https://www.sis.gov.eg/?lang=en-US not en-UK

--Mahmudmasri (talk) 18:00, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Why not? Constitutionstates"welltrainedmilitia" (talk) 20:27, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

@Jaguar: May I know, why you decided that the article, Egypt should be spelled in British English? --Esperfulmo (talk) 13:09, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Recent 2011

"The country continues to face challenges, from political unrest, including the recent 2011 revolution and its aftermath, to terrorism and economic underdevelopment."

2011 is not that recent anymore. I request the removal of the word 'recent' here. WikiPate (talk) 11:32, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

I've changed that. Iskandar323 (talk) 12:26, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

2011 is obviously recent. Constitutionstates"welltrainedmilitia" (talk) 20:19, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Isn't Egypt considered a Dictatorship ?

Its infobox describes Egypt as a Semi-Presidential Republic. But isn't it an Authoritarian Hybrid Dictatorship under Abdel Fattah el-Sisi ? Faaz Noushad (talk) 22:26, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

I think this is more a personal view than an encyclopedic. Sarah Schneuwly -Schneider (talk) 22:52, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

totally agree, if some countries like Russia is listed as an authoritarian dictatorship, I don't see why Egypt shouldn't be too

Reference:

https://freedomhouse.org/country/egypt/freedom-world/2023 Soviera0 (talk) 21:10, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

No. A leader was assassinated at military review. Constitutionstates"welltrainedmilitia" (talk) 20:21, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Does the word, Coptic, ring a bell?

Ancient Egyptians worshipped animals. Constitutionstates"welltrainedmilitia" (talk) 20:25, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Weird first sentence in “prehistory and ancient Egypt” section

This first sentence stands on its own, sounds odd, and begs the answer “so what?” It would sound better if it read something like “There is evidence of rock carvings along the Nile terraces and in desert oases… dating back to x date”; or “… which is consistent with humans inhabiting Egypt as far back as x”. I note there is no citation, but if the sentence must be included at all, perhaps it can be moved to later on in the paragraph. Thoughts? Cbe46 (talk) 08:24, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Arabic

Adam — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:CB80:4077:E8BE:6CF9:7A4E:795E:1492 (talk) 14:27, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Dialects

Hello,

would it be possible to include the specific dialects of Arabic spoken in Egypt? Perhaps after the sentence “Islam is the official religion of Egypt and Arabic is its official language” we can include Massry, Bedawi, and Saidi?

WikiAmerican1 (talk) 03:30, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello. As for what is spoken by the people, it's by far Masry (68%), then Upper Egyptian. Bedawi isn't even 1%, English is more spoken than it. So the term Arabic is indeed the correct collective term. 156.181.27.211 (talk) 11:24, 15 July 2023 (UTC)