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Versailles in the Paris task force?

Hi there hello, so I just spontaneously joined the Paris task force and got into tagging "Paris-related" articles, but I wonder whether or not articles that are "Versailles-related" should be tagged and improved as well. I'd be happy if anybody'd give me the answer to that. Update: I'll just tag the "Versailles-related" ones, just tell me if I shouldn't :) - CarolingianCitizen (talk) 10:02, 7 August 2022 (CET)

Requested move at Talk:DPDgroup#Requested move 13 March 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:DPDgroup#Requested move 13 March 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 18:04, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:24, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Henrietta Maria#Requested move 10 May 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Henrietta Maria#Requested move 10 May 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 03:41, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject categories

I've been coming across a recurring issue of late which I wanted to bring to the WikiProject's attention.

Now, obviously project members already know that categories such as Category:WikiProject France articles are for the talk pages, not the articles — but for the past few months there have been at least two or three cases per week of that category appearing on new articles, almost always alongside Category:WikiProject Europe articles. By and large, further, these articles are created by new users, and it's rarely if ever the same new user twice. But it's incredibly unlikely that genuinely new users would even know about the existence of WikiProject categories in the first place, and even more unlikely that so many new users would repeat the same error over and over again all by themselves unless they were somehow being told that they were supposed to do that. No other WikiProject category ever sees this happen anywhere near as often; Belgium occasionally shows up in the polluted category reports but usually does not (and if it does, it's inevitably also paired with WikiProject Europe on the same page), and no other "WikiProject [projectname] articles" category ever shows up there at all, but Europe and France (virtually always alongside each other on the same articles) have become a thing I have to check daily.

So I can really only think of two possibilities here: either the different new users are actually the same user editing under multiple new names to evade an edit block, or some "creating new articles" guide attached to WikiProject France is somehow giving new editors the mistaken impression that those categories belong on the articles. The French Wikipedia does not, as far as I can tell, place WikiProject categories on articles, so this isn't simply a carry-over from established French-Wikipedia practice either. So could somebody take a look at whether this WikiProject has any documentation that might be causing editors to erroneously think that those categories go on articles instead of talk pages? Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 16:25, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

CFM International CFM56 at FAR

I have nominated CFM International CFM56 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 18:24, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Jean de Carrouges

Jean de Carrouges has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:47, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Morea expedition

Morea expedition has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk)

Talk:Catherine de' Medici

Hiya, Frenchies and allies. For those here who are interested in fashion, history, French women, and/or the history of French women's fashion and its influence on the rest of the less glamorous world, there's a small mystery at the Catherine de' Medici article.

The internet as a whole has absolutely fantastic blog entries (sample) about how this cuttingly intelligent but physically still-a-frickin'-14-year-old girl accidentally opened the part of Pandora's box that had been holding back high heels while trying to impress her older royal never-met-before husband-to-be and to intimidate his known-to-be-gorgeous mistress(es). Somehow that is what stuck from the era—not the foot-long pointed toes or foot-wide flippers—and, after spending an amusing interlude causing royalist cavalrymen to fall over a lot, became the women's footwear we all know and loave today.

Thing is, our Catherine de' Medici article doesn't mention her involvement in popularizing heels at all. Not in the (lengthy) article. Not anywhere in the (lengthy) talk page with no archives. I assume that means there's some solid reason to doubt the current internet lore but it's widespread enough across blogs, newspaper articles, and some histories of footwear and fashion that it's actually worth including a paragraph in the article even if it's wrong just to clearly debunk it. Anyone here know what's going on with that? Kindly respond at the talk page itself since I'll also crosspost this request to WPFASHION and WPWOMENSHISTORY. — LlywelynII 12:58, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Maupassant or de Maupassant

Bonjour, When referring to Maupassant after using the full name in the lead of the article Guy de Maupassant, should he not be referred to as, "de Maupassant" since his father had received permission to name himself Gustave de Maupassant (read the Guy de Maupassant article - that is mentioned)?-1Firang (talk) 13:53, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

In the article about Catherine de Parthenay, the name used subsequently in that article (after the full name in the lead) is "Parthenay (which is the name of a town)" but should it not be "de Parthenay" like in the French Wikipedia?-1Firang (talk) 13:57, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

@CaroleHenson: suggests that it should be "de Parthanay", like "van Gogh" here.-1Firang (talk) 20:08, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Eurostar

Eurostar has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:03, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Merger discussion for First Macron presidency + Second Macron presidency → Presidency of Emmanuel Macron

NOTE, First Macron presidency (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Second Macron presidency (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) have been proposed to be merged into Presidency of Emmanuel Macron (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) See the discussion at Talk:Presidency of Emmanuel Macron. -- 67.70.25.80 (talk) 11:33, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Category:French presidency has been nominated for discussion

Category:French presidency has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- 67.70.25.80 (talk) 11:48, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Firearms regulation in France desperately needs to be updated

Hi, I'm pretty new to Wikipedia editing so I'm not sure if this is the right place, but I wanted to bring attention to Firearms regulation in France.

Some information of the article is extremely outdated. To get this article to meet Wikipedia's quality standards, it would take a lot of work and I hope someone can help with that. I will continue to make changes to improve this article.

Thank you. Emibee01 (talk) 21:16, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Great documentary on Henri Lafont – WW2 – Gestapo – collaboration

Really excellent documentary on WW2 France, and former petty thief and hoodlum Henri Lafont who became a collaborator with the Germans in WW2 Paris and head of the Lauriston Street Gang, and then rose to power as head of the Paris Gestapo. Don't miss Henri Lafont, the godfather of the Gestapo (YouTube; 50'). Mathglot (talk) 05:36, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Attempting to identify a "Captain R. Devaulx"

Hi all, while writing up War College (Finland), I came across a French person called "Captain R. Devaulx" who was one of the first teachers of the college. He would have worked at the college as a "teacher of military technology" (more specifically, "car transportation" in a few sources) starting from 1924 or 1925. A newspaper clipping gives a full name of "Robert Pierre Devaulx" (nb: Finns could have taken liberties spelling foreign names, could be "de Vaulx") and says he was born in 1882. I'm not seeing the DoB reported elsewhere, so that might be incorrect. He's also described as having arrived in Finland in 1921, or thereabouts. Some sources describe him as an "engineering captain" (freely translated), so that might help nail it down.

My French language skills are attrocious, so if anyone here has ideas on how to find out more about this person, I'd most appreciate any tips and hints. Ljleppan (talk) 10:08, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

E.g. it would be great if there was some way to match him to this person. Ljleppan (talk) 10:19, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

Dispute resolution over outdated/pov article Juan Branco

Hello, I have been trying to translate the French B-class rated article fr:Juan Branco towards the English start-class article Juan Branco, which has wp:undue problems and is outdated anyway. However, I am encountering significant pushback from contributors who are either SPAs or have never added content to the article, neither of which rely on sources to judge what's relevant, but only on their wp:pov. Feel free to come help resolve the dispute and improve the article (which imo is currently a disaster compared to French version). Imagritte (talk) 13:42, 18 July 2023 (UTC)