Talk:Miracle Mineral Supplement

The MMS Guy is pushing Calcium hypochlorite as the mark 2 version of his miracle cure.

[1] It looks like he will keep moving up the reactivity scale until it really starts killing people.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.65.191.122 (talk • contribs)

Readability suggestion for opening sentence

The opening sentence is structured as a compound sentence and borders being run-on. I suggest the following minor edit,

Miracle Mineral Supplement, often referred to as Miracle Mineral Solution, Master Mineral Solution, MMS or the CD protocol,[1] is a branded name for an aqueous solution of chlorine dioxide, an industrial bleaching agent, and it that has been falsely promoted as a cure for illnesses including HIV, cancer and the common cold. Techguy95 (talk) 17:57, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Yup, a definite improvement. Done. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:03, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

15 killed or poisoned in Bolivia?

I have amended the article to say that 15 were “poisoned” rather than “killed”, as that is all the cited Guardian article says. Unfortunately, “to poison” is ambiguous;; although Wiktionary only gives “kill or paralyse with poison”, Chambers agrees with my feeling that it can also mean “administer poison to”, “injure with poison”, “pollute with poison” etc. If they were killed, or if longer-term statistics were available, a better citation would be very welcome! PJTraill (talk) 19:32, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

"former clairvoyant"?

Under the heading "Uganda", the final paragraph begins "British former clairvoyant Sam Little..." "Clairvoyance is not a real thing, so there can be no such thing as a "former clairvoyant". This should be changed to reflect this reality; perhaps to "Former self-described British clairvoyant Sam Little..." Bricology (talk) 17:37, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Agreed and revised. Zefr (talk) 18:42, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

There are also no such things as Psychics and Mediums, yet many of the bios for such people persist in defining those claiming to be such as exactly that. Just one example: Thomas John (medium). --Hob Gadling (talk) 03:03, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Potential Merge of Andreas Kalcker

Someone brought this article to the BLP board - normally, we have to be very careful with accusations against living people that haven't resulting in convictions. I've double checked and most of it is sourced, but I still the page should be deleted - he's only notable for promoting MMS.

... However, there is a bigger story here: MMS in Spanish Speaking Countries, especially during Covid. I absolutely feel that's notable. Should it be merged here? Moved to an article "MMS promotion in Spanish Speaking Countries?" I'd love a second opinion. Denaar (talk) 17:35, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Neither article should be deleted as they are sourced properly and notable. The Spanish content would fit very nicely here. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 23:51, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

"If, however, there is only enough information about one notable event related to the person, then the article should be titled specifically about that event." There really isn't a single article about him as a person, but rather, about his promotion of MMS. Lots of coverage of MMS that mentions him in passing (trivial mentions). Also "Editors must give serious consideration to not creating an article on an alleged perpetrator when no conviction is yet secured."... He's not been convicted of anything. Yet, I still think the information in those articles is notable, but it's "Promotion of MMS in Spanish especially as it led to people using the cure during Covid 19 to adverse results" that is the story. Denaar (talk) 21:54, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 July 2023

ADD As of 2023, Grenon and his sons have been found guilty of defrauding the United States, distributing an unapproved drug, and distributing a misbranded drug. Their sentencing is set for October of 2023. to the end of the "COVID 19" subheader SpaceAlex1 (talk) 05:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)