Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arctopocalypse Now... Warmageddon Later

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Band appears to be notable, but the album lacks substantial independent coverage, as noted below. Albums of notable bands are not automatically notable. Relevant details (e.g. track listing) can be merged into band article, per WP:MUSIC#Albums. MastCell ^Talk 22:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Arctopocalypse Now... Warmageddon Later

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No assertion of notability. Band's article was recently deleted. —« ANIMUM » 00:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

*Delete If the band is not notable, neither is their album. the_undertow ^talk 00:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't want to cut and paste this comment 3 more times. Perhaps this would go better under a multiple listing, as fruits of a nn band are nn as well... the_undertow ^talk 00:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy - no need to cut and paste the comment. No assertation of notability beyond being released by a non-notable band. This fits in with my understanding of the CSD A7 criteria. --Action Jackson IV 00:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Upon further research, it seems this band may in fact be notable. At least one album was reviewed on All Music, passing WP:BAND #1, and Colin Marston is a member of Dysrhythmia, passing WP:BAND #6. Speedy tag removed. --Action Jackson IV 00:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• (Sigh). If you are correct, then the speedy deletion of the band page may not have been warranted. In order to have these albums exist, we are going to have to recreate the band page. I hope you're up for a stub - you sort of opened a can of worms, haha. the_undertow ^talk 01:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete If the band seems to be not notable, I guess that the album article is even less and anyways doesn't look to have lots of songs there.--JForget 23:00, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• Number of songs has very little to do with an album's encyclopedic merit - check any EP by a well known group. As I stated above, the band does seem to skirt on the "good" side of notability, specifically by being included in the All Music Guide, and by virtue of Colin Marston being a member of this band. The band's article should be un-deleted by the admin closing these AfD's. --Action Jackson IV 01:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, DES ^(talk) 01:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep now that a page has been made on the band, and the band seems to be semi-notable. Pervious votes above might be disregarded, as a page on the band did not exist at the time. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?)} 01:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep Albums of notable bands are notable. the_undertow ^talk 01:25, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep even though sadly the band page is under attack again, though this band IS notable. = ∫_t^c 5th Eye 23:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete - An album can be notable on it's own merits, regardless of the notability of the band, Individual articles on albums should include independent coverage. (from WP:MUSIC#Albums). At present, the article has only one item of coverage, a review from troublee.com. I don't speak that language (is it Czech?), but I'll give the benefit of the doubt in calling it a professional review. However, multiple reliable sources is the preference. Marasmusine 09:04, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete as per Marasmusine and nom Harlowraman 18:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.