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Wikipedia's articles are generally better than journalistic texts at providing specifics and technical information in amongst the broad brushstrokes that give the reader an overview of the topic. It is also a great advantage of Wikipedia that it often links to primary sources, where available in these cases, as well as the secondary sources that bring the topic within the ambit of the encyclopaedia. For this article it would be really appreciated if something could be added about where specifically in the P&C Act the relevant provisions are found and how they operate legally, and if this could be sourced to the legislation itself. Thank you to anyone in a position to make this improvement to the article. [[User:Human470|Human470]] ([[User talk:Human470|talk]]) 20:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Wikipedia's articles are generally better than journalistic texts at providing specifics and technical information in amongst the broad brushstrokes that give the reader an overview of the topic. It is also a great advantage of Wikipedia that it often links to primary sources, where available in these cases, as well as the secondary sources that bring the topic within the ambit of the encyclopaedia. For this article it would be really appreciated if something could be added about where specifically in the P&C Act the relevant provisions are found and how they operate legally, and if this could be sourced to the legislation itself. Thank you to anyone in a position to make this improvement to the article. [[User:Human470|Human470]] ([[User talk:Human470|talk]]) 20:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

== Apology to Turing ==

Turing himself received a posthumous apology in 2009,[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/11/pm-apology-to-alan-turing] but I guess it didn't apply to everyone else affected. The apology should be mentioned in the article. I'm not sure of the best way to work it in, so I'll leave it up to the regulars. [[Special:Contributions/2601:644:8501:AAF0:0:0:0:3AB4|2601:644:8501:AAF0:0:0:0:3AB4]] ([[User talk:2601:644:8501:AAF0:0:0:0:3AB4|talk]]) 01:24, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

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Aren't all pardons retroactive?

The article states that this "serves as an amnesty law to retroactively pardon men". But aren't all pardons retroactive? I think the term may be used here because people can sometimes be prosecuted retroactively for things that were not yet crimes when those people committed them. I guess this might count as retroactive if the record were changed to suggest that the people pardoned had never been prosecuted in the first place, or the prosecution were somehow undone in a more substantial way. But that doesn't seem to be the case here. I'm willing to be corrected, however. Is there a useful distinction between a retroactive and a non-retroactive pardon? Garik (talk) 15:20, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think the term is redundant, as a pardon requires a conviction. It also invites confusion with "posthumously". So I think it should be removed (now clarified in the ITN blurb). Martinevans123 (talk) 17:10, 3 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think what you said is right, a pardon requires a conviction indeed. Χρυσάνθη Λυκούση 2001 (talk) 20:02, 4 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Specific mechanism and sources

Wikipedia's articles are generally better than journalistic texts at providing specifics and technical information in amongst the broad brushstrokes that give the reader an overview of the topic. It is also a great advantage of Wikipedia that it often links to primary sources, where available in these cases, as well as the secondary sources that bring the topic within the ambit of the encyclopaedia. For this article it would be really appreciated if something could be added about where specifically in the P&C Act the relevant provisions are found and how they operate legally, and if this could be sourced to the legislation itself. Thank you to anyone in a position to make this improvement to the article. Human470 (talk) 20:57, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Apology to Turing

Turing himself received a posthumous apology in 2009,[1] but I guess it didn't apply to everyone else affected. The apology should be mentioned in the article. I'm not sure of the best way to work it in, so I'll leave it up to the regulars. 2601:644:8501:AAF0:0:0:0:3AB4 (talk) 01:24, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]