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This is pure cancel culture. He cannot be deleted or silenced don’t fold [[Special:Contributions/38.50.201.47|38.50.201.47]] ([[User talk:38.50.201.47|talk]]) 22:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC) |
This is pure cancel culture. He cannot be deleted or silenced don’t fold [[Special:Contributions/38.50.201.47|38.50.201.47]] ([[User talk:38.50.201.47|talk]]) 22:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for taking notice of music from West Virginia. |
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:This song could easily be used against conservative political organizers and politicians, as many are exactly what Oliver Anthony describes, "Rich men from North of Richmond". Former President Trump falls into the category "Rich Men from North of Richmond". |
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:Just because one particular group takes on a song doesn't make the song bad. So even if democrats, feminists, and satanists all at once took the song on as their mantra, that in itself doesn't make the song good or bad. It may change a listener's perception of the song and add cultural baggage. Graduating senior classes, sports teams, business, government agency public service announcements, and a myriad of politicians may adopt it, or pay for its use, like a jingle or battle cry. |
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:Additionally the so-called conservative party is not typically known for its loyalty to Anthony's "working man" as is evidenced by historical lack of support of wage increases, organized unions, or worker benefits. |
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:This alleged controversy appears to be the work of those who stand to gain from creating the controversy: political parties/ politicians and their money tied allies. |
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:Loud battle cries FOR and AGAINST canceling art is typically a red flag. Just enjoy the music. If you don't, that's ok too. Don't listen. |
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:People, you have choices. |
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:Suggestion: listen to the music of another notable West Virginian, [[Hazel Dickens|Hazel Dickens,]] "Dickens didn’t just sing the anthems of labor, she lived them and her place on many a picket line, staring down gunfire and goon squads, embedded her into the cause." |
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:[[-John Pietaro]] |
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:Neither party wants the worker to organize or even meet in the middle. It's more financially viable to the rich men north of Virginia to stir the pot and fill their pockets with the results. |
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:Yes, people and artists from West Virginia have been historically stereo typed. Either feudn' or playing a banjo. In fact, such past offenses against "Appalachia" do not make Anthony's work bad or good. But the barriers can be monumental. |
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:Anthony's music should be judged, enjoyed or disliked by individuals. The others, who come with agendas, as all political parties do, are just that, folks with plans to get your vote, take your money, etc....like "the rich man from North of Virginia." [[User:T. E. Wiles|T. E. Wiles]] ([[User talk:T. E. Wiles|talk]]) 13:21, 16 August 2023 (UTC) |
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The only argument for deleting this argument seems to based upon bias against the popularity of this song within conservative circles. The artist and the songs are currently quite popular. He is likely to continue to be talked about. DuckSirDucky (talk) 22:43, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- Don't cancel this guy. Are you kidding? Why can't people hear different points of view? I can't believe people a so insecure they can't stand if someone has a different point of view than theirs. 2600:1700:1C2A:9400:4537:AC0C:8B11:D26E (talk) 00:13, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. There is no legitimate reason to delete this page. 50.108.211.141 (talk) 16:56, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- agreed, deleting this would be detrimental to the point of this website. 2A00:23EE:11F8:CD35:8102:2075:BD40:EBD6 (talk) 11:06, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
Keep this baffles me to even consider deleting
This is pure cancel culture. He cannot be deleted or silenced don’t fold 38.50.201.47 (talk) 22:29, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking notice of music from West Virginia.
- This song could easily be used against conservative political organizers and politicians, as many are exactly what Oliver Anthony describes, "Rich men from North of Richmond". Former President Trump falls into the category "Rich Men from North of Richmond".
- Just because one particular group takes on a song doesn't make the song bad. So even if democrats, feminists, and satanists all at once took the song on as their mantra, that in itself doesn't make the song good or bad. It may change a listener's perception of the song and add cultural baggage. Graduating senior classes, sports teams, business, government agency public service announcements, and a myriad of politicians may adopt it, or pay for its use, like a jingle or battle cry.
- Additionally the so-called conservative party is not typically known for its loyalty to Anthony's "working man" as is evidenced by historical lack of support of wage increases, organized unions, or worker benefits.
- This alleged controversy appears to be the work of those who stand to gain from creating the controversy: political parties/ politicians and their money tied allies.
- Loud battle cries FOR and AGAINST canceling art is typically a red flag. Just enjoy the music. If you don't, that's ok too. Don't listen.
- People, you have choices.
- Suggestion: listen to the music of another notable West Virginian, Hazel Dickens, "Dickens didn’t just sing the anthems of labor, she lived them and her place on many a picket line, staring down gunfire and goon squads, embedded her into the cause."
- -John Pietaro
- Neither party wants the worker to organize or even meet in the middle. It's more financially viable to the rich men north of Virginia to stir the pot and fill their pockets with the results.
- Yes, people and artists from West Virginia have been historically stereo typed. Either feudn' or playing a banjo. In fact, such past offenses against "Appalachia" do not make Anthony's work bad or good. But the barriers can be monumental.
- Anthony's music should be judged, enjoyed or disliked by individuals. The others, who come with agendas, as all political parties do, are just that, folks with plans to get your vote, take your money, etc....like "the rich man from North of Virginia." T. E. Wiles (talk) 13:21, 16 August 2023 (UTC)