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== Constructive Criticism Requested == |
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Over the last 7 to 10 days, I have done significant re-writes of the [[Florida Gators lacrosse]], [[Amanda O'Leary]], [[Becky Burleigh]] and [[Ben Hill Griffin, Jr.]] articles. I would appreciate some suggestions for further improvements and some constructive criticism of my handiwork to date. My next project is to re-work the [[Florida Gators soccer]] article. Cheers. [[User:Dirtlawyer1|Dirtlawyer1]] ([[User talk:Dirtlawyer1|talk]]) 15:03, 16 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:I'd say it all looks very nice. Well planned and well written. I would question is the inclusion of a recruiting section in the women's lacrosse article. Is this year's inaugural recruiting going to be something of note 1, 3, or 5 years from now? Is it "encyclopedic" in a loose sense? As a person who enjoys the recruiting side of sports in general I personally think it's interesting, but will the average person really need to know about this year's recruiting in order to garner some knowledge about the program? That's really the only question I'd ask. |
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:Other than that, it's looking very nice. If you need pictures of anything I'd be happy to go take a few for you since I live in Gainesville right now. Just let me know. [[User:Fliry Vorru|Fliry Vorru]] ([[User talk:Fliry Vorru|talk]]) 18:19, 16 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::Thank you, sir. I included the lacrosse recruiting information as filler for the next 6-10 months. Since the program is a new start-up and has no history, I needed to include something for die-hard Gators to chew on. And the number of high-school All-Americans is quite remarkable (11 of 12 scholarship athletes are All-Americans); it's the lacrosse equivalent of Urban Meyer signing an entire class of 4 and 5-star recruits. Once the team has played its first season next spring, I will delete the the recruiting information and insert a couple of sentences about the results of their first season. The nature of these sports team articles is that they all require annual updates after the completion of their seasons anyway. |
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::As for photos, we could use a digital shot of the in-progress construction of the new stadium (maybe an interesting perspective shot), and then another digital shot after the new field is finished at the end of the summer. We also could use a digital head shot of new coach Amanda O'Leary----do you know where she goes for happy hour?! LOL Also, see requests for additional info on the article's discussion page. [[User:Dirtlawyer1|Dirtlawyer1]] ([[User talk:Dirtlawyer1|talk]]) 20:22, 16 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Other revamped UF-related articles now include [[Florida Gators soccer]], [[Marshall Criser]], [[Robert Q. Marston]], [[E. T. York]], [[Stephen C. O'Connell]] and [[Andrew Sledd]]. Comments, criticisms and suggestions for further improvements requested. [[User:Dirtlawyer1|Dirtlawyer1]] ([[User talk:Dirtlawyer1|talk]]) 01:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::: You are doing an amazing job! Keep up to great work. [[User:NorwalkJames|NorwalkJames]] ([[User talk:NorwalkJames|talk]]) 14:10, 25 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Newly revamped article on [[Buddy Alexander]], two-time national championship men's golf coach, now available for Project members' review and critique. [[User:Dirtlawyer1|Dirtlawyer1]] ([[User talk:Dirtlawyer1|talk]]) 19:00, 1 August 2009 (UTC) |
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== Student Traditions == |
== Student Traditions == |
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Student Traditions
I think this article could use a section that talks about the Student Traditions at the University of Florida. Some of the main things to be discussed are:
- The F Book[1]
- Gator Growl and Miss University of Florida
- Move the UF Honor Code to this portion
- The Gator Walk[2]
- The Pride of the Sunshine and Gatorettes
- The Dazzlers and UF Cheerleading
- The Super Gators
- The Rowdy Reptiles
- The Gator Chomp
- Albert and Alberta Gator
- We are the Boys from old Florida
- The Orange and Blue Fight Song
- Mr. Two Bits
- Move the University of Florida Alma Mater to this portion
- Info about University Ghost Stories[3]
- The 34th Street Wall
- The Brick Dropping Tradition at Century Tower
- Info about the Sigma Alpha Epsilon Lion
- The Hare Krishna Lunches served at the Plaza of the Americas
- Obviously they should not all be included, but it would be good to add some of them. NorwalkJames (talk) 23:20, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- There's a few other "traditions" and parts of culture that might be of interest
- Turlington Plaza, with the infamous Wacky Evangelists. Also the GPA Rock (or "the Potato" or "Turlington Turd"), which has long been rumored among students to be a piece of fossilized dinosaur scat.
- The Murphree statue over by Peabody. It seems that at least every other week that someone places an drink container in his outstretched hand. A few weeks ago he had also been TP'ed. http://www.uflib.ufl.edu/ufdc/?g=all&b=UF00033802&v=00001,
- Unofficial names for monuments on campus - Cheerios, French Fries, and the recently removed Belt Buckle
- There is a collection of myths and urban legends at http://www.alligator.org/pt2/070815legends.php
- Alligators on campus. There's at least one who lives in lake near Simpson/Graham dormitories, and also some in Lake Alice. Do they have a name for the one in the Simpson/Graham lake?
- Some of these might be difficult to back with reliable sources, but would be nice to incorporate somehow. -:-WillMcC (talk) 01:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Gentlemen, as we try to upgrade the main University of Florida article to Good Article and perhaps Feature Article status, it may be necessary to pare, rather than add additional material to some sections of the main article. The emphasis should be on the core areas of discussion that are central to the university's mission (history, academics, scope of programs, admissions, rankings, overview of student activities, etc.), and in comparison to most other well-rated university articles, we already have too much detail in many less "notable" or noteworthy section topics. I know I'm the new guy here, but I am trying to learn and apply the Wiki guidelines to one of my favorite topics----my alma mater. I strongly suggest that we create a word budget for each section of the main article, and do our best not to exceed it. Maybe the solution for dealing with fun trivia that exceeds the word budget for any given topic is to relegate such arcana to footnotes. Thoughts? Reactions? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 02:00, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well we have over 25 topics that can be included in this section (and I think some of the 50,000 visitors a month who visit the UF page would love to read about our traditions). We could create a seperate article for Student Traditions that are taking up space on the main University of Florida article. The thing is we need to be real careful about establishing notability so that the other wikipedia editors do not immediately delete the Student Traditions article. I would hate to spend hours creating this article and then it immediately gets purged from wikipedia. We would have to use a plethora of outside sources so that Notability can truly be established. Thoughts? Reactions? NorwalkJames (talk) 23:11, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
List of Presidents of the University of Florida
- Have a problem with the formatting with this article (List of Presidents of the University of Florida). I do not know how to fix the table so that we can have pictures, and an expansion of what the Presidents were able to accomplish. Need an editor to see if they can fix this article. NorwalkJames (talk) 14:13, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Improving University of Florida articles
I think Wikiproject University of Florida could use some improvements. Here are some suggestions:
- Revamp the University of Florida page so that it is not so long
- Create a semi-annual newsletter to send out about what has gone on with University of Florida and Florida Gators articles. Perhaps discuss some key issues that need to be addressed.
- Nominate an Executive Director to guide the overall project, to provide a sense of direction, and to get everything/everyone on the same page
- Revamp the main WikiProject University of Florida page format. A Good example:WikiProject Georgia Tech
- Revamp our goals now that the project is almost 2 years old
- Improve the To-do list
- Strive to have more Good articles
- Prioritize University of Florida & Florida Gators articles by levels of importance
- Create an Announcements Section
- Comments? Thoughts? Reactions? - NorwalkJames (talk) 15:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
Pictures still missing as of July 2009
Academic Buildings
- UF Training Reactor
- Whitney Marine Lab
- Sid Martin Biotechnology Incubator
- Yulee Hall
- Architecture and Fine Arts Library
- Education Library
- Biomedical Engineering Building
- Particle Science Technology Building
- Alvin Black Hall
- Larsen Hall
- Benton Hall
- Williamson Hall
- Jennings Hall
- McCarty Hall C
- Little Hall
- Trusler Hall
- Housing Office
- Rotary Scholarship House
- Comupter Science/Engineering Building (next to Marston Library)
- Allen H. Neuharth Journalism Library (maybe inside if possible)
- Nuclear Sciences Building
- Maguire Village
- University Village South
- Food Science and Human Nutrition Building
- Architecture Building
- Greer Hall
- Farrior Hall
- Elmore Hall
- Sisler Hall
- Fine Arts Building B
- Microbiology/Cell Science Building
- Entomology Building
- Orthopaedics Spots Medicine Institute
- Doyle Conner Building
- Development Alumni Affairs Building
- UF Foundation Annex
- 105 Classroom Building (CBD)
- Human Resources Building
- Randell Research Center
- Nanoscale Research Facility
- Student Health Care Center (when completed)
- Biomedical Sciences Building (when completed)
- Law Advocacy Center (when completed)
- Hough Hall (when completed)
- Center at Lake Nona (when completed)
Health Science Center
- Academic Research Building
- Dental Science Building
- Health Prof, Nursing, Pharmacy Building
- Shands Teaching Hospital
- Shands Patient Service Buildings
- Human Development Center
- Stetson Medical Sciences Building
- Basic Science Building
- Health Science Center Admin Services Building
- University of Florida Veterans Administration Building
- Davis Cancer Pavilion
- Vet Med Teaching Hospital
- Vet Med Academic Wing
- Courtelis Teaching Hospital
- Animal Science Building
- Winn-Dixie Hope Lodge
Athletic Buildings & Facilities
- Stephen C. O'Connell Center Natatorium
- Florida Lacrosse Facility (when completed)
- Recreation and Fitness Center
Clubs/Organizations
- University of Florida Career Resource Center
- Rowdy Reptiles
- Gator Growl
- Bridge Software Institute
- The Super Gators
Pictures Needing an Update
- Ben Hill Griffin Stadium - New scoreboards are currently being installed and this picture will need to be updated soon (I'm not sure if they're done yet, it'll be soon if they're not)
- These are second-priority I suppose Fliry Vorru (talk) 21:40, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
Aerial photo
I took a couple of pictures while flying over Gainesville the last weekend. I'm sure they could be put to good use. Since I have released them under CC, they can be cropped as necessary (as long as they remain CC and link back to the original)
--WillMcC (talk) 02:07, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Use of University Seal & Logo
Here's an off-the-wall question: Why are we using the university's "UF" logo twice on the main and history articles, and not the university seal? Would it not be more appropriate to use the seal and logo? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:52, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm believe that copyright is a motivation behind it. The "UF" logo can be used freely (it does not meet the threshold of originality for copyright), whereas the UF identity (http://identity.ufl.edu/) says that the seal is reserved for "official" purposes and it also is likely copyrighted. Since free content should be used wherever possible, the wordmark is used in UF related articles. If we were to create an article or (more likely) a section of an article about the seal and/or its usage, than we may be able to use the seal under fair use. --WillMcC (talk) 19:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, Will. I see that other university's articles, including FSU's, are using those schools' official seals, but the use is probably not authorized. At NorwalkJames' suggestion, I made contact with the university historian, Carl Van Ness. At an appropriate time, I may raise the authorization issue with him (or other friends in the general counsel's office). My first priority, however, is get better copies of head shots for university presidents and coaches for their Wiki bios----the university will probably be less concerned about unconditionally releasing old photos (no commercial value), than releasing the use of its seal. We may have to make a "fair use" argument for use of the seal. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:21, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'm currently riding the fence on this issue. Most other university pages have the seal at the top of the infobox, it's how we identify the university, just like we have Nike's swoosh on the Nike page. It also flows really nicely into the motto section of the box, if I do say-so myself. Since the UF doesn't have the seal, it seems to stick out.
- As noted above, Florida doesn't use the seal for non-athletic branding as most other universities do, they have the identity system. Just like we would for Nike, it's probably more correct to identify the university with it's current marketing branding, which would be the wordmark (the one currently at the bottom of the infobox, as it so happens)
- Now, on many pages we have previous company logos, and since the seal was used as a logo, we could make a fair use claim, but it's a little thin.
- It's also worth noting the seal is a derivative of the Seal of Florida, which is in the public domain, and also strange the identity system words the section about the seal in such a way to explicitly say that it's a registered trademark, but makes no comment on it's copyright status. I'm not saying it's not copyrighted, but it might be worth someone taking a look at it. Terinjokes (talk) 05:09, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- Hey, I never noticed that this article didn't have the university's seal in the infobox. It's our standard so I've corrected that. ElKevbo (talk) 06:30, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- Glad to see my rant made something happen, and pretty quickly too. :) Terinjokes (talk) 23:58, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
Wikiproject University of Florida on Facebook
- The Official Wikiproject University of Florida now has a group on Facebook. This seemed like a good idea considering that we now have over 30 members.[4]
- Also what do you all think of choosing an Executive Director for the project for the (2009-2010) academic year? NorwalkJames (talk) 23:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, IMHO, we need an organizational structure. Some sort of UF Project chairman, coordinator or director would be entirely appropriate . . . and, no, I'm not volunteering to do it. We need someone who has the free time to coordinate volunteer efforts by posted Wiki messages, outside e-mail and telephone calls with the active members of the group. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 23:45, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe we can contact the University of Florida Student Government and have them appoint a current student (or perhaps the University of Florida Alumni Association). However, I think first dibbs should be given out to a current member who would has already proven themselves worthy of the task. This is a big responsibility and I would be willing to write a Letter of Recommendation for anyone willing to serve in this capacity for a year (it would also look good on a resume). NorwalkJames (talk) 00:28, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- It would require a student of very substantial maturity. Given the time constraints of (responsible) students, perhaps an adult UF Project member would be best. Do you have someone in mind? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 00:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- It really depends on who would want to take the position. I think a couple of the current members might have what it takes to bring the project to the next level. Obviously I will continue to play a support role (I would assume you will as well?). Ideally what would be best is if we had a yearly Director to oversee the project. The Director could have a vision, and benchmarks for how the project could improve for the academic year (obviously this is a long term project, but I think we can make a dent if we focus our efforts on a yearly basis). Right now the project is at a point where we have a significant amount of articles, but unfortunately the majority are mere stubs and expansion is needed. We have all of the individual colleges & schools but they also fail to quantify what they can offer the academic community. In addition, the University of Florida has over 800 famous alumni listed on wikipedia, hundreds of olympians, and a countless number of athletes that could use expansions as well. Lastly, the university has a major research component that could be revamped. I could go on and on about how the project could be improved, but overall progress is being made each day. I think we need more man-power, a plan of action, greater enthusiasm, and a longterm stategy for improving the project. NorwalkJames (talk) 03:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Lovebug Myth
Does anyone think it is necessary to add a section about the Love Bug Myth. Its possible to write two paragraphs about it, and there are plenty of sources on the internet. 03:30, 7 September 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.121.251.65 (talk)
All-Steinway Schools
See also Category talk:All-Steinway Schools. Fanoftheworld (talk) 19:16, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
Leadwreck
The lead paragraph of this article is an absolute peacock and weasel-worded booster wreck. It mentions unencyclopedic and non-neutral superlatives like "prestigious" twice, no fewer than five overt rankings, four appeals to "largest", and a prevalence of other pointless peacock words such as "major", "continuously", "consistently", "well-known". The lead conveys no actual information except that which allows it to assert its dominance (presumably over unmentioned rival institutions). The university press office would be proud, but this Wikipedian is not. Madcoverboy (talk) 04:02, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Enough edit-warring
This is unacceptable. As I just saw it now, I won't hand out blocks yet, but further reverts by the same users will result in blocks being handed out. Enigmamsg 03:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Bernie Machen's 2009 US News Ranking
- Quite frankly I think this does not deserve to be on the official University of Florida article. Perhaps this should be placed under the Bernie Machen article, or perhaps Criticism of college and university rankings (North America).Jccort (talk) 03:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
- I tend to agree. At a minimum, the wording should be condensed immensely to one line at the most. This kind of gamesmanship with the USN&WR rankings isn't new or particularly notable. In fact, it's one of the main reasons why higher education scholars condemn the rankings and strongly discourage their use. ElKevbo (talk) 03:49, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
- I have rewritten the controversial passage to include only the facts, removing incendiary words such as "scandal" and "used," and deleting the St. Petersburg Times editorial reference—editorials by definition are not reliable sources, but an expression of opinion. I believe the rewritten passage complies with both WP:WEIGHT and WP:NPOV. Frankly, I think the rewritten passage still gives far more attention to the subject than it objectively deserves, but I'll let it go at that . . . .
- I would be grateful if someone would discuss with our new young "editor" that the deletion of properly sourced statements because he disagrees with them (in his opinion), the inclusion of gratuitous and non-pertinent references to the athletic accomplishments of other universities, and the insertion of blog-sourced humorous references to "jorts" (see diff [[5]], do not necessarily constitute an exercise of "free speech" or even good Wikipedia editing. Frankly, it is clear anyone who objectively assesses the "editor's" intent, as evidenced by his original edit, that it was to vandalize the article in accordance with his own biases and attempts at humor. I do not believe it deserves much of an assumption of Wikipedia "good faith" in this light.
- Moreover, someone should also explain to the young "editor" who "Jccort" was and is—the originator of both the FSU and UF Wikiprojects. I have seen no evidence of pro-UF/anti-FSU bias in Jccort's work, only an objective attempt to paint both institutions in their respective "best lights." It is regrettable that our young editor feels the need to exercise his anti-UF bias in any way possible, rather than finding something constructive to do on Wiklipedia. Well, that's my "opinion," for what it's worth. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:20, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Contribution to Florida's domestic product
An editor added text that suggested that UF indirectly generated so many jobs and so much domestic product to Florida's economy. These are the types of figures that aficionados like to promulgate. C-of-c stuff. Great in print or in a speech. If you total them all up, they amount to a lot more jobs and a lot more product than a given area has or can contain.
One problem here is the state is subsidizing 60% or more of the tuition. So if I tax 10 million people $100 each = $1 billion. Then I hand it back to them through an institution, how much have I "contributed" to the economy? It just doesn't make sense in aggregate. Smoke and mirrors. Similarly for taking their tuition and handing it back to the parents through an institution. "Filtering" money is not necessarily helpful. One might argue that it is economically inefficient since it slows it down. This is a zero sum game without manufacturing or credit (banking). Student7 (talk) 13:04, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's not as cut and dry as you're saying. The article discusses how they came up with those numbers, and it includes things like research, health care, and visitors to the university (sports, museums, performing arts), as well as the spin-off companies making various widgets. These are things that wouldn't be produced if the university didn't exist as it does, regardless of how else the tax money might be spent. I reworded the sentence to be closer to the source.--Cúchullain t/c 14:46, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- This is not smoke and mirrors - the report was commissioned by the Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences. Please keep in mind that IFAS is primarily funded by the United States Government and the State of Florida. Jccort (talk) 01:31, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Merger proposal
I propose that Gator Wrap Ring be merged into University of Florida. I think that the content in the Gator Wrap Ring article can easily be explained in the context of University of Florida, and the University of Florida article is of a reasonable size in which the merging of Gator Wrap Ring will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. The Gator Wrap Ring is a small article, especially when one removes info that already appears in the U of Fl article. Dave [[WP:NPP|You can help!]] (talk) 02:17, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Admissions rates
For some reason comparing and contrasting schools' admissions rates has become something of a pissing contest, and it's even sillier than most forms of boosterism. The real significance of the admissions rate statistic is internal to the institution; it has very little to do with what's going on at other schools. For example, ten years ago the University of North Florida had nearly open admissions. Since then its admissions rate has dropped precipitously; in 2007-2008 it was under 64% and last year it dropped to under 50%. The reason? The school hit its enrollment cap. Staying the size it wanted meant accepting fewer applicants; accepting fewer applicants meant accepting the applicants with the highest grades and test scores.
Additionally, admissions rates are affected by the number of applicants, which in turn is affected by college recruitment. There are also different ways of calculating the number (freshman applicants vs. total applicants, etc.) Bottom line, comparing admissions rates between (sometimes very different) schools is unnecessary boostersism at best and misleading twaddle at worst.Cúchullain t/c 15:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- There's also the issue of scholarships to top applicants and college recruiting, both of which affect admissions rates. Also, the effect of external factors such as budget cuts and tuition raises, which may lower the total number of applicants, thereby raising the admissions rate even if the admissions standards aren't lowered. Grumble grumble.--Cúchullain t/c 13:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Notable alums
In the section on notable alums I notice where Joe Kittinger, former command pilot and record holder for longest, fastest and highest skydive, is not on here. I'm not a contributor,but thought someone who was may want to look at this and add him. He's a pretty big deal and to boot, he was born in Tampa and attended Jacksonville Bolles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.51.148.195 (talk) 19:22, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Top x00 Schools Worldwide
I noticed that the "top 100 universities worldwide" claim had no reference so I looked for one. Could only find evidence that University of Florida is consistently in top 250 (actually top 226). I elected to remove the claim completely and let somebody with a reference put in the correct number. This is the reference I found:
* QS World University Rankings website's U of Fl page -- QS World University Rankings
Dave (djkernen)|Talk to me|Please help! 14:32, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- Dave, the most widely recognized world-wide ranking system for universities is the Academic Ranking of World Universities. This was footnoted in the body text of the University of Florida article, but not in its lede section. I have corrected that. FYI, QS has been widely criticized and its methodology discredited over the last several years, even to the point where The Times (London) dropped QS as the source for its Times Higher Education (THE) rankings. Wikipdia editors who are far more knowledgeable than I am deleted most of the QS rankings from university articles when QS was dropped by THE. Subsequently, Wikipedia has been repeatedly besieged by single-purpose account (SPA) editors who have attempted to reinsert the QS rankings into articles about major universities. These were mostly deleted, again, last year when an SPA editor, apparently affiliated with QS, was adding them to every university article, along with various puffery statements about QS. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:55, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
- Dirtylawyer, thank you for putting in the correct number with a reference. (That was all I was asking for; I do not have another agenda.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djkernen (talk • contribs) 17:13, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
Notable alumni
Surely it's worth mentioning that the journalist Dexter Filkins got his BA at UF?
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The Description of Public Ivy In The Wiki Article
As noted in the wiki entry of public_ivy, the term originated with a 1950's publication by Moll regarding 8 colleges. In 2001, Greene et al co-opted the term, and expanded it to nearly 30 colleges. The distinction between the first usage of the term, by Moll, and the second, by Greene, are differing in definition and prestige. While the public ivy reference is footnoted to Greene, I believe the difference should be noted in the wiki article as to not mislead the public regarding the prestige of the title in its original usage. In other words, UF wasn't one of the true public ivies as listed by moll, but as a public ivy listed by Greene. The editor who keeps reverting is a UF alum, and thus has a bias to keep it as is. I'm requesting another wiki editor please examine the matter.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.186.77 (talk • contribs)
- I've cleaned up the wording and moved the discussion into the article body. The fuller discussion belongs there rather than the lead, though it doesn't need any more than a brief sentence indicating that UF is on the Greenes' list of the Public Ivies. At any rate, I can assure you that almost no one cares one way or the other about these lists besides current and former students.Cúchullain t/c 20:54, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Merger proposal
I propose merging (some of) the content of Lombardi Scholars Program and Reitz Scholars Program into this article. The two subjects simply aren't notable enough to warrant their own articles. ElKevbo (talk) 04:58, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- Having heard no objection in the past nine months, I have merged the two articles into this one. ElKevbo (talk) 02:31, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Bias towards other ranking systems
Why delete other rankings systems such as Forbes, QS, and Times when it is properly sourced and referenced with. Why delete the rankings, just because UFl ranked low? That is just not an excuse. Other university page also has a complete ranking system than includes all ranking systems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juicy fruit146 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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Robert (talk) 04:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. If you're requesting that the article be semi-protected again, the place to do that is WP:RPP. There have been no recent edits the article, however, so such a request would likely be declined. Rivertorch (talk) 09:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Athletics section problems
The athletics section of the main University of Florida article is intended to be a BRIEF overview of the Florida Gators sports program, with a BRIEF summary of the two major spectator sports, football and men's basketball. Links are provided to the main "Florida Gators" article, as well as ALL of the articles for the other individual Florida Gators sports teams. The athletics section of the main University of Florida article is not supposed to duplicate either the main Florida Gators article or the articles for the individual Florida Gators sports teams. The football and men's basketball subsections are intended ONLY to provide a BRIEF summary of those teams national championship histories, and not to recall every memorable moment of those teams. I have also removed entirely the recently added subsection for the swimming and diving team, which was apparently added by an editor who was enamored with Ryan Lochte. Prominent Gators swimmers and other athletes who were gold medalists are already linked in the Olympics subsection of this article. Anyone who wants to add more about other Florida Gators teams are encourage to add to and improve the team articles, as well as those articles for Florida Gators coaches and athletes. 18:08, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with these changes, nice work. Definitely much better now that those sections are more concise and direct to the main articles. GoGatorMeds (talk) 20:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
2015 ZBT-wounded veterans controversy
Wikipedia is not the news per WP:NOTNEWS, and a drunken fraternity scandal does not merit 2,000+ bytes of meaningless detail about the fraternity boys' embarrassing behavior in a 100,000-byte article about a major state university. This kind of drunken nonsense happens all the time; these idiots made the nightly news for several days in the immediate aftermath. Per WP:EVENT, there will be little or no continuing coverage of this event, and no major news outlets will still be discussing this in two weeks, except for a one-paragraph follow-up on page 20, noting that the fraternity's charter has been suspended for two to three years. My Google News search already shows no major coverage since Friday, April 24: [6].
If you want to argue for a brief, two or three-sentence paragraph describing the incident per WP:WEIGHT, written in a non-sensationalist fashion per WP:NPOV, we can certainly talk about that. If you want more details inserted into the main University of Florida article, then I suggest you start a stand-alone article (e.g., "University of Florida Zeta Beta Tau–wounded veterans scandal"), and see if it survives WP:AfD. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 03:10, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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Florida Gators logo
I would consider not using the Florida non-free Gators logo (File:Florida Gators logo.svg) in this article because doing it here is problematic in terms of WP:NFCC#3 (minimal use across the encyclopedia; the logo is already used in articles relevant to Florida Gators including Florida Gators; see: Wikipedia:NFC#Number of items) and WP:NFCC#8 (contextual significance; it's not used to identify the subject of this article, University of Florida, but a related topic; see specifically: Wikipedia:Logos#Placement). Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 22:52, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Finnusertop and Corkythehornetfan: I agree. Several years ago, I was one of the editors who negotiated the present compromise regarding the use of the copyrighted and trademarked Gator head logo of the Florida Gators sports program, which is used as the primary mark of the University of Florida sports programs and all 21 Florida Gators intercollegiate sports teams. It is not a primary mark of the University of Florida, which has a separate family of wordmarks that are used by the university and its various constituent academic colleges and schools. For our part, we have done our best to preserve that compromise by removing the Gator head logo from all articles other than the Florida Gators athletic program article and the 16 primary team articles (e.g., Florida Gators football, Florida Gators women's soccer, Florida Gators softball, etc.), whenever users have inserted it elsewhere. Over the past several years, we have repeatedly removed the non-free logo from the dozens of season articles, rivalry articles, game articles, etc., in order to limit the use of the Gator head logo to the program and primary team articles. Given that the sports program is a secondary topic within the University of Florida main article, and that the Florida Gators sports program and the teams are covered in depth in stand-alone articles where the non-free logo is used, it would seem appropriate to remove the non-free logo from the main University of Florida article and continue to restrict its use as described above. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 05:40, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Sorry I have not responded. I agree with ya both. Corkythehornetfan 19:39, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's my understanding of the current consensus regarding the use of logos in articles that aren't directly about the subject represented by the logo when that subject has an article. ElKevbo (talk) 01:02, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
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UF is not Florida's flagship university
I removed a reference where UF was declared a "flagship" university. The cite was a page from a PowerPoint discussion presented to the Florida Board of Governors, which is not authoritative on this issue in Florida. This was a hotly disputed issue in the Florida Legislature for years. The matter was finally resolved in 2013 with the passage of the "Preeminent" university law, which uses objective criteria to award more money and the right to use the title "preeminent university". Two universities originally qualified in 2013 and in each subsequent year - UF and FSU. For more history, please refer to the Florida statute: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=1000-1099/1001/Sections/1001.7065.html
and some recent media coverage on the issue:
http://www.usforacle.com/news/view.php/686980/Governor-signs-bill-to-grant-UF-FSU-pree
http://news.usf.edu/article/templates/?a=7402&z=224
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/education/os-ucf-emerging-preeminent-20160419-story.html
I would suggest the title be awarded in a Florida-appropriate way, which is authorized and supported under Florida law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.156.212.208 (talk) 04:36, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
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The pictures on the mobile Wikipedia are not correctly placed. Pgomez2129 (talk) 15:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
Mixing informal "flagship" designation with formal membership in SUS
An unregistered editor is edit warring to change the infobox of this article where it mentions that this institution is part of the State university system so that it instead says that UF is a "State flagship university." That's problematic because that's just a phrase made up by this unregistered editor. It may be worth discussing whether this article should note that some commentators and scholars have included UF in lists of flagship universities but that addition shouldn't be made at the expense of confusing other information or by making up a new phrase.
This editor has also promised to continue edit warring over this issue so I'm going to request that this article be semi-protected. ElKevbo (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- I agree, the infobox is not the correct place for that information, which requires a little more explanation anyway. Incidentally, after seeing that edit summary, I'm thinking that a block may be warranted. Zeng8r (talk) 20:05, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Incorrect undergraduate population?
The article says there are 39,565 undergraduates at UF (fall 2017 cohort data). However, this source https://ir.aa.ufl.edu/uffacts/enrollment-1/ says the correct count is 36,436. Is there something I'm missing? WikiWikiQuestions (talk) 13:22, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
"Uf" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"University of Florida Bandshell" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Blockchain Lab
University of Florida and Algorand are working together to create a Blockchain lab for research. This might good to add to the article. https://arts.ufl.edu/in-the-loop/news/university-of-florida-partners-with-algorand-foundation-to-establish-blockchain-lab/ TomReadsALot (talk) 17:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- We generally don't include information simply because it was in the news; let's wait to see if this collaboration results in anything substantive. ElKevbo (talk) 11:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
The section labeled "Academics"
Why is "tuition" mentioned at the top of the "Academics" section? Why is it in the "Academics" section at all? Tuition, while tangentially related to academics in that it refers to the cost of the student's academic instruction, is ultimately just another cost. It is a financial matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.196.121.237 (talk) 05:10, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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