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== Top x00 Schools Worldwide == |
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I noticed that the "top 100 universities worldwide" claim had no reference so I looked for one. Could only find evidence that University of Florida is consistently in top 250 (actually top 226). I elected to remove the claim completely and let somebody with a reference put in the correct number. This is the reference I found: |
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* [http://www.topuniversities.com/institution/university-florida/wur QS World University Rankings website's U of Fl page] -- [[QS World University Rankings]] |
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Dave ([[User:Djkernen|djkernen]])|[[User talk:Djkernen|Talk to me]]|[[WP:Community Portal#Open tasks|Please help!]] 14:32, 26 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:Dave, the most widely recognized world-wide ranking system for universities is the [[Academic Ranking of World Universities]]. This was footnoted in the body text of the University of Florida article, but not in its lede section. I have corrected that. FYI, QS has been widely criticized and its methodology discredited over the last several years, even to the point where ''The Times'' (London) dropped QS as the source for its Times Higher Education (THE) rankings. Wikipdia editors who are far more knowledgeable than I am deleted most of the QS rankings from university articles when QS was dropped by THE. Subsequently, Wikipedia has been repeatedly besieged by single-purpose account (SPA) editors who have attempted to reinsert the QS rankings into articles about major universities. These were mostly deleted, again, last year when an SPA editor, apparently affiliated with QS, was adding them to every university article, along with various puffery statements about QS. [[User:Dirtlawyer1|Dirtlawyer1]] ([[User talk:Dirtlawyer1|talk]]) 15:55, 26 September 2011 (UTC) |
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::Dirtylawyer, thank you for putting in the correct number with a reference. (That was all I was asking for; I do not have another agenda.) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Djkernen|Djkernen]] ([[User talk:Djkernen|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Djkernen|contribs]]) 17:13, 26 September 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Notable alumni == |
== Notable alumni == |
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Notable alumni
Surely it's worth mentioning that the journalist Dexter Filkins got his BA at UF?
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The Description of Public Ivy In The Wiki Article
As noted in the wiki entry of public_ivy, the term originated with a 1950's publication by Moll regarding 8 colleges. In 2001, Greene et al co-opted the term, and expanded it to nearly 30 colleges. The distinction between the first usage of the term, by Moll, and the second, by Greene, are differing in definition and prestige. While the public ivy reference is footnoted to Greene, I believe the difference should be noted in the wiki article as to not mislead the public regarding the prestige of the title in its original usage. In other words, UF wasn't one of the true public ivies as listed by moll, but as a public ivy listed by Greene. The editor who keeps reverting is a UF alum, and thus has a bias to keep it as is. I'm requesting another wiki editor please examine the matter.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.186.77 (talk • contribs)
- I've cleaned up the wording and moved the discussion into the article body. The fuller discussion belongs there rather than the lead, though it doesn't need any more than a brief sentence indicating that UF is on the Greenes' list of the Public Ivies. At any rate, I can assure you that almost no one cares one way or the other about these lists besides current and former students.Cúchullain t/c 20:54, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Merger proposal
I propose merging (some of) the content of Lombardi Scholars Program and Reitz Scholars Program into this article. The two subjects simply aren't notable enough to warrant their own articles. ElKevbo (talk) 04:58, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
- Having heard no objection in the past nine months, I have merged the two articles into this one. ElKevbo (talk) 02:31, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Bias towards other ranking systems
Why delete other rankings systems such as Forbes, QS, and Times when it is properly sourced and referenced with. Why delete the rankings, just because UFl ranked low? That is just not an excuse. Other university page also has a complete ranking system than includes all ranking systems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juicy fruit146 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
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- Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. If you're requesting that the article be semi-protected again, the place to do that is WP:RPP. There have been no recent edits the article, however, so such a request would likely be declined. Rivertorch (talk) 09:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
Athletics section problems
The athletics section of the main University of Florida article is intended to be a BRIEF overview of the Florida Gators sports program, with a BRIEF summary of the two major spectator sports, football and men's basketball. Links are provided to the main "Florida Gators" article, as well as ALL of the articles for the other individual Florida Gators sports teams. The athletics section of the main University of Florida article is not supposed to duplicate either the main Florida Gators article or the articles for the individual Florida Gators sports teams. The football and men's basketball subsections are intended ONLY to provide a BRIEF summary of those teams national championship histories, and not to recall every memorable moment of those teams. I have also removed entirely the recently added subsection for the swimming and diving team, which was apparently added by an editor who was enamored with Ryan Lochte. Prominent Gators swimmers and other athletes who were gold medalists are already linked in the Olympics subsection of this article. Anyone who wants to add more about other Florida Gators teams are encourage to add to and improve the team articles, as well as those articles for Florida Gators coaches and athletes. 18:08, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with these changes, nice work. Definitely much better now that those sections are more concise and direct to the main articles. GoGatorMeds (talk) 20:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
2015 ZBT-wounded veterans controversy
Wikipedia is not the news per WP:NOTNEWS, and a drunken fraternity scandal does not merit 2,000+ bytes of meaningless detail about the fraternity boys' embarrassing behavior in a 100,000-byte article about a major state university. This kind of drunken nonsense happens all the time; these idiots made the nightly news for several days in the immediate aftermath. Per WP:EVENT, there will be little or no continuing coverage of this event, and no major news outlets will still be discussing this in two weeks, except for a one-paragraph follow-up on page 20, noting that the fraternity's charter has been suspended for two to three years. My Google News search already shows no major coverage since Friday, April 24: [1].
If you want to argue for a brief, two or three-sentence paragraph describing the incident per WP:WEIGHT, written in a non-sensationalist fashion per WP:NPOV, we can certainly talk about that. If you want more details inserted into the main University of Florida article, then I suggest you start a stand-alone article (e.g., "University of Florida Zeta Beta Tau–wounded veterans scandal"), and see if it survives WP:AfD. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 03:10, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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Florida Gators logo
I would consider not using the Florida non-free Gators logo (File:Florida Gators logo.svg) in this article because doing it here is problematic in terms of WP:NFCC#3 (minimal use across the encyclopedia; the logo is already used in articles relevant to Florida Gators including Florida Gators; see: Wikipedia:NFC#Number of items) and WP:NFCC#8 (contextual significance; it's not used to identify the subject of this article, University of Florida, but a related topic; see specifically: Wikipedia:Logos#Placement). Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 22:52, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
- @Finnusertop and Corkythehornetfan: I agree. Several years ago, I was one of the editors who negotiated the present compromise regarding the use of the copyrighted and trademarked Gator head logo of the Florida Gators sports program, which is used as the primary mark of the University of Florida sports programs and all 21 Florida Gators intercollegiate sports teams. It is not a primary mark of the University of Florida, which has a separate family of wordmarks that are used by the university and its various constituent academic colleges and schools. For our part, we have done our best to preserve that compromise by removing the Gator head logo from all articles other than the Florida Gators athletic program article and the 16 primary team articles (e.g., Florida Gators football, Florida Gators women's soccer, Florida Gators softball, etc.), whenever users have inserted it elsewhere. Over the past several years, we have repeatedly removed the non-free logo from the dozens of season articles, rivalry articles, game articles, etc., in order to limit the use of the Gator head logo to the program and primary team articles. Given that the sports program is a secondary topic within the University of Florida main article, and that the Florida Gators sports program and the teams are covered in depth in stand-alone articles where the non-free logo is used, it would seem appropriate to remove the non-free logo from the main University of Florida article and continue to restrict its use as described above. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 05:40, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Sorry I have not responded. I agree with ya both. Corkythehornetfan 19:39, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's my understanding of the current consensus regarding the use of logos in articles that aren't directly about the subject represented by the logo when that subject has an article. ElKevbo (talk) 01:02, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
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UF is not Florida's flagship university
I removed a reference where UF was declared a "flagship" university. The cite was a page from a PowerPoint discussion presented to the Florida Board of Governors, which is not authoritative on this issue in Florida. This was a hotly disputed issue in the Florida Legislature for years. The matter was finally resolved in 2013 with the passage of the "Preeminent" university law, which uses objective criteria to award more money and the right to use the title "preeminent university". Two universities originally qualified in 2013 and in each subsequent year - UF and FSU. For more history, please refer to the Florida statute: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=1000-1099/1001/Sections/1001.7065.html
and some recent media coverage on the issue:
http://www.usforacle.com/news/view.php/686980/Governor-signs-bill-to-grant-UF-FSU-pree
http://news.usf.edu/article/templates/?a=7402&z=224
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/features/education/os-ucf-emerging-preeminent-20160419-story.html
I would suggest the title be awarded in a Florida-appropriate way, which is authorized and supported under Florida law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.156.212.208 (talk) 04:36, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
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Mixing informal "flagship" designation with formal membership in SUS
An unregistered editor is edit warring to change the infobox of this article where it mentions that this institution is part of the State university system so that it instead says that UF is a "State flagship university." That's problematic because that's just a phrase made up by this unregistered editor. It may be worth discussing whether this article should note that some commentators and scholars have included UF in lists of flagship universities but that addition shouldn't be made at the expense of confusing other information or by making up a new phrase.
This editor has also promised to continue edit warring over this issue so I'm going to request that this article be semi-protected. ElKevbo (talk) 17:35, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- I agree, the infobox is not the correct place for that information, which requires a little more explanation anyway. Incidentally, after seeing that edit summary, I'm thinking that a block may be warranted. Zeng8r (talk) 20:05, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Incorrect undergraduate population?
The article says there are 39,565 undergraduates at UF (fall 2017 cohort data). However, this source https://ir.aa.ufl.edu/uffacts/enrollment-1/ says the correct count is 36,436. Is there something I'm missing? WikiWikiQuestions (talk) 13:22, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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Blockchain Lab
University of Florida and Algorand are working together to create a Blockchain lab for research. This might good to add to the article. https://arts.ufl.edu/in-the-loop/news/university-of-florida-partners-with-algorand-foundation-to-establish-blockchain-lab/ TomReadsALot (talk) 17:05, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- We generally don't include information simply because it was in the news; let's wait to see if this collaboration results in anything substantive. ElKevbo (talk) 11:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
The section labeled "Academics"
Why is "tuition" mentioned at the top of the "Academics" section? Why is it in the "Academics" section at all? Tuition, while tangentially related to academics in that it refers to the cost of the student's academic instruction, is ultimately just another cost. It is a financial matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.196.121.237 (talk) 05:10, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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