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[[WP:BLP]] of an actor, not [[WP:RS|properly sourced]] as having any strong claim to passing [[WP:NACTOR]]. As always, actors are not "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass [[WP:GNG]] on their sourceability -- but this, as written, is sourced to a directory entry, a production photograph and a glancing namecheck of his existence, which is not enough.<br>It was also formerly a lot longer and listed a lot more (supporting) roles, but none of that content was sourced either, with the result that it recently got restubbed down to this -- but even just restoring the old content wouldn't actually fix the problem, because an actor's notability resides in his sourcing and not just in the ability to list roles in and of itself.<br>Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced considerably better than this. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 02:50, 24 August 2023 (UTC) |
[[WP:BLP]] of an actor, not [[WP:RS|properly sourced]] as having any strong claim to passing [[WP:NACTOR]]. As always, actors are not "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass [[WP:GNG]] on their sourceability -- but this, as written, is sourced to a directory entry, a production photograph and a glancing namecheck of his existence, which is not enough.<br>It was also formerly a lot longer and listed a lot more (supporting) roles, but none of that content was sourced either, with the result that it recently got restubbed down to this -- but even just restoring the old content wouldn't actually fix the problem, because an actor's notability resides in his sourcing and not just in the ability to list roles in and of itself.<br>Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced considerably better than this. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 02:50, 24 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::NACTOR is not passed by ''listing'' roles, it's passed by the article ''showing'' a GNG-worthy volume of media coverage ''about'' him and the roles, and ''no'' role in ''any'' film is ''ever'' so "inherently" notable as to ''exempt'' its actor from having to be ''sourced properly''. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 15:53, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
::NACTOR is not passed by ''listing'' roles, it's passed by the article ''showing'' a GNG-worthy volume of media coverage ''about'' him and the roles, and ''no'' role in ''any'' film is ''ever'' so "inherently" notable as to ''exempt'' its actor from having to be ''sourced properly''. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 15:53, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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* '''Weak keep''' Other than the the sources in the article, I'm seeing [https://www.slashfilm.com/1068545/muse-watson-took-an-intensely-physical-approach-to-playing-i-know-what-you-did-last-summers-slasher/ slashfilm.com], [https://www.slashfilm.com/1070983/i-know-what-you-did-last-summer-needed-a-killer-who-wouldnt-stay-in-character/ another one], [https://www.thethings.com/the-cast-of-i-know-what-you-did-last-summer-killer-muse-watson/ TheThings], [https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/i-know-what-you-did-last-summer-cast-then-now-jennifer-love-hewitt/anne-heche-as-melissa-missy-egan/ a paragraph in this from Hollywood Reporter], [https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1595798/ncis-why-muse-watson-leave-mike-franks-cbs Express], [https://www.hellomagazine.com/film/20230209163991/ncis-the-reason-why-mike-franks-actor-muse-watson-left/ Hello], and a lot more covering his leaving NCIS and his role in I Know What You Did Last Summer. Not the best sources, but add up to notability in my eyes. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 21:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC) |
* '''Weak keep''' Other than the the sources in the article, I'm seeing [https://www.slashfilm.com/1068545/muse-watson-took-an-intensely-physical-approach-to-playing-i-know-what-you-did-last-summers-slasher/ slashfilm.com], [https://www.slashfilm.com/1070983/i-know-what-you-did-last-summer-needed-a-killer-who-wouldnt-stay-in-character/ another one], [https://www.thethings.com/the-cast-of-i-know-what-you-did-last-summer-killer-muse-watson/ TheThings], [https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/i-know-what-you-did-last-summer-cast-then-now-jennifer-love-hewitt/anne-heche-as-melissa-missy-egan/ a paragraph in this from Hollywood Reporter], [https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1595798/ncis-why-muse-watson-leave-mike-franks-cbs Express], [https://www.hellomagazine.com/film/20230209163991/ncis-the-reason-why-mike-franks-actor-muse-watson-left/ Hello], and a lot more covering his leaving NCIS and his role in I Know What You Did Last Summer. Not the best sources, but add up to notability in my eyes. [[User:Rusalkii|<span style="color:#259a83">Rusalkii</span>]] ([[User talk:Rusalkii|talk]]) 21:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC) |
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WP:BLP of an actor, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing WP:NACTOR. As always, actors are not "inherently" notable just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on their sourceability -- but this, as written, is sourced to a directory entry, a production photograph and a glancing namecheck of his existence, which is not enough.
It was also formerly a lot longer and listed a lot more (supporting) roles, but none of that content was sourced either, with the result that it recently got restubbed down to this -- but even just restoring the old content wouldn't actually fix the problem, because an actor's notability resides in his sourcing and not just in the ability to list roles in and of itself.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced considerably better than this. Bearcat (talk) 02:50, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers and United States of America. Bearcat (talk) 02:50, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. Really? You nominated Mike Franks. Passes both NACTOR (which by itself is sufficiant if properly verified) and GNG. I've updated the page. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:51, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- NACTOR is not passed by listing roles, it's passed by the article showing a GNG-worthy volume of media coverage about him and the roles, and no role in any film is ever so "inherently" notable as to exempt its actor from having to be sourced properly. Bearcat (talk) 15:53, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep Other than the the sources in the article, I'm seeing slashfilm.com, another one, TheThings, a paragraph in this from Hollywood Reporter, Express, Hello, and a lot more covering his leaving NCIS and his role in I Know What You Did Last Summer. Not the best sources, but add up to notability in my eyes. Rusalkii (talk) 21:30, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 03:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)