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:::Listen, Michael, I try to not be a hard-ass admin. I make a lot of blocks, but try to never jump to blocking, and try to give due consideration to every unblock request. But here, like, you keep saying it was just "one CSD", but it's not like CSD-tagging is the sort of thing someone easily stumbles into by accident. I'd be more sympathetic if, for instance, you were banned from American politics and made a single edit in that topic area, because that's an easy mistake to make once. But you were unblocked on a condition of no more CSD-tagging. You then deliberately added a custom {{tl|db-G6}} template (and not even a valid one) to a redirect. That's not stumbling into an accidental violation; that's intentionally doing something that you were told you'd be reblocked if you ever did again. And you did that immediately after I said I was considering a block and that you needed to slow down and stop plunging into areas you don't understand. (Which is relevant because, again, "not necessary redirect" is not a valid reason for speedy deletion. I strongly doubt that that redirect would even be deleted at [[WP:RfD|RfD]], let alone speedily.){{pb}}If I didn't get the sense that you really are trying your best, I would assume you were trolling here, because that's such a blatant violation at a time when you were under a lot of scrutiny. But I don't think that. I think you just still don't get it. I'd suggest you start by focusing on a wiki where you speak the language more fluently. Give it a few months. If, after a few months, an admin from that wiki is willing to come here and say you now understand how to contribute in a wiki environment, I'll be open to an unblock. For now, it's a hard oppose for me. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- [[User:Tamzin|<span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span>]]</span><sup class="nowrap">[[[User talk:Tamzin|<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>]]]</sup> (she|they|xe) 17:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC) |
:::Listen, Michael, I try to not be a hard-ass admin. I make a lot of blocks, but try to never jump to blocking, and try to give due consideration to every unblock request. But here, like, you keep saying it was just "one CSD", but it's not like CSD-tagging is the sort of thing someone easily stumbles into by accident. I'd be more sympathetic if, for instance, you were banned from American politics and made a single edit in that topic area, because that's an easy mistake to make once. But you were unblocked on a condition of no more CSD-tagging. You then deliberately added a custom {{tl|db-G6}} template (and not even a valid one) to a redirect. That's not stumbling into an accidental violation; that's intentionally doing something that you were told you'd be reblocked if you ever did again. And you did that immediately after I said I was considering a block and that you needed to slow down and stop plunging into areas you don't understand. (Which is relevant because, again, "not necessary redirect" is not a valid reason for speedy deletion. I strongly doubt that that redirect would even be deleted at [[WP:RfD|RfD]], let alone speedily.){{pb}}If I didn't get the sense that you really are trying your best, I would assume you were trolling here, because that's such a blatant violation at a time when you were under a lot of scrutiny. But I don't think that. I think you just still don't get it. I'd suggest you start by focusing on a wiki where you speak the language more fluently. Give it a few months. If, after a few months, an admin from that wiki is willing to come here and say you now understand how to contribute in a wiki environment, I'll be open to an unblock. For now, it's a hard oppose for me. <span style="font-family:courier"> -- [[User:Tamzin|<span style="color:#E6007A">Tamzin</span>]]</span><sup class="nowrap">[[[User talk:Tamzin|<i style="color:#E6007A">cetacean needed</i>]]]</sup> (she|they|xe) 17:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::i dont know what i was thinking at the time, probably was just looking for a resonable way to delete it cuz that just looked like a redundant redirect idk, i know what u trying to say but i dont like editing ''“fictisious” wikis,'' i think that i can do no harm if u unblock me until i do next big mistake [[User:Michael21107|Michael H]] ([[User talk:Michael21107#top|talk]]) 18:04, 10 August 2023 (UTC) |
::::i dont know what i was thinking at the time, probably was just looking for a resonable way to delete it cuz that just looked like a redundant redirect idk, i know what u trying to say but i dont like editing ''“fictisious” wikis,'' i think that i can do no harm if u unblock me until i do next big mistake [[User:Michael21107|Michael H]] ([[User talk:Michael21107#top|talk]]) 18:04, 10 August 2023 (UTC) |
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{{unblock reviewed |1=I strongly believe I was blocked reasonably but I'm now capable to adhere by guidelines, policies, and my previous/current topic bans. I also believe I'm now competent enough. If you are concerned I'm wrong, I'm willing to provide all the necessary answers to make you trust me again. [[User:Michael21107|Michael H]] ([[User talk:Michael21107#top|talk]]) 23:43, 1 September 2023 (UTC) |decline = This request does not have enough detail to make me confident that you understand why you were blocked and what you will do in the future to change your behaviour. In future requests, please outline the edits that led to the block, why there were wrong, and what you will do differently if unblocked. [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 00:20, 4 September 2023 (UTC)}} |
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August 2023
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 02:43, 8 August 2023 (UTC)Michael21107, if you are unblocked, I will impose a restriction on any use of speedy deletion tags and a WP:1RR restriction for reverting content on a page. Do you agree to these conditions?
from Z1720 posted on your talk page on the 31st July to which you responded i agree, thanks
. Its right there in your talk page history. Lavalizard101 (talk) 10:21, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- Im asking bout a topic ban— Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael21107 (talk • contribs) 10:50, 8 August 2023 (UTC).
- Those conditions are what was meant when referring to topic bans. Lavalizard101 (talk) 11:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- thanks Michael H (talk) 11:07, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- Those conditions are what was meant when referring to topic bans. Lavalizard101 (talk) 11:01, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
Michael21107 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
this was a massive lapse of judgement for which i apologize, but i dont believe tagging ONE redirect from redundant distingusher (or some tag like that which was added later) warrants an indefinite ban also considering the amount of helpful edits i made in this short time Michael H (talk) 00:33, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I am declining your unblock request, as your appeal and the discussion below do not suggest that you can edit constructively here. We want to be confident that you can edit without causing problems, not just that we can block you when you do, and I don't think you understand well enough what the problem is. I agree with the other editors' suggestions that while you are blocked here, you try getting experience editing another Wikipedia project, such as Simple English Wikipedia, or a Wikipedia in your own language. You are free to make a new unblock request here when you think you understand our policies well enough to edit without causing problems; please see the guide to appealing blocks and the standard offer for blocked editors for more advice. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:49, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- Michael, I'm going to again suggest that as opposed to trying to get unblocked again as soon as possible, that perhaps you instead spend some time on another wiki, such as Simple or Fandom, or if you have a primary language other than English, that you edit that wiki instead. Take some time, try to become as proficient as you can at the basics, as in: selecting articles that need improvement, and doing just that, nothing fancy or complicated. Also take the time to learn the policies & guidelines as thoroughly as you can, and work on your communication skills. both conveying your thoughts and ideas to others, as well as understanding those being communicated to you. WP isn't going anywhere, so take your time, (at least 6 months, though 12 would probably be better). I think that if you try this approach, you might have a better chance of success. (jmho) - wolf 10:11, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- the thing is I'm not here to succeed (if u don't mean just getting unbanned), right now I just want to not be banned indefinitely for tagging one CSD, I would say giving me another chance and then banning me for 12 months if I fuck up would be reasonable Michael H (talk) 12:06, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Listen, Michael, I try to not be a hard-ass admin. I make a lot of blocks, but try to never jump to blocking, and try to give due consideration to every unblock request. But here, like, you keep saying it was just "one CSD", but it's not like CSD-tagging is the sort of thing someone easily stumbles into by accident. I'd be more sympathetic if, for instance, you were banned from American politics and made a single edit in that topic area, because that's an easy mistake to make once. But you were unblocked on a condition of no more CSD-tagging. You then deliberately added a custom {{db-G6}} template (and not even a valid one) to a redirect. That's not stumbling into an accidental violation; that's intentionally doing something that you were told you'd be reblocked if you ever did again. And you did that immediately after I said I was considering a block and that you needed to slow down and stop plunging into areas you don't understand. (Which is relevant because, again, "not necessary redirect" is not a valid reason for speedy deletion. I strongly doubt that that redirect would even be deleted at RfD, let alone speedily.)If I didn't get the sense that you really are trying your best, I would assume you were trolling here, because that's such a blatant violation at a time when you were under a lot of scrutiny. But I don't think that. I think you just still don't get it. I'd suggest you start by focusing on a wiki where you speak the language more fluently. Give it a few months. If, after a few months, an admin from that wiki is willing to come here and say you now understand how to contribute in a wiki environment, I'll be open to an unblock. For now, it's a hard oppose for me. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 17:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- i dont know what i was thinking at the time, probably was just looking for a resonable way to delete it cuz that just looked like a redundant redirect idk, i know what u trying to say but i dont like editing “fictisious” wikis, i think that i can do no harm if u unblock me until i do next big mistake Michael H (talk) 18:04, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- Listen, Michael, I try to not be a hard-ass admin. I make a lot of blocks, but try to never jump to blocking, and try to give due consideration to every unblock request. But here, like, you keep saying it was just "one CSD", but it's not like CSD-tagging is the sort of thing someone easily stumbles into by accident. I'd be more sympathetic if, for instance, you were banned from American politics and made a single edit in that topic area, because that's an easy mistake to make once. But you were unblocked on a condition of no more CSD-tagging. You then deliberately added a custom {{db-G6}} template (and not even a valid one) to a redirect. That's not stumbling into an accidental violation; that's intentionally doing something that you were told you'd be reblocked if you ever did again. And you did that immediately after I said I was considering a block and that you needed to slow down and stop plunging into areas you don't understand. (Which is relevant because, again, "not necessary redirect" is not a valid reason for speedy deletion. I strongly doubt that that redirect would even be deleted at RfD, let alone speedily.)If I didn't get the sense that you really are trying your best, I would assume you were trolling here, because that's such a blatant violation at a time when you were under a lot of scrutiny. But I don't think that. I think you just still don't get it. I'd suggest you start by focusing on a wiki where you speak the language more fluently. Give it a few months. If, after a few months, an admin from that wiki is willing to come here and say you now understand how to contribute in a wiki environment, I'll be open to an unblock. For now, it's a hard oppose for me. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 17:34, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
- the thing is I'm not here to succeed (if u don't mean just getting unbanned), right now I just want to not be banned indefinitely for tagging one CSD, I would say giving me another chance and then banning me for 12 months if I fuck up would be reasonable Michael H (talk) 12:06, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
Michael21107 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I strongly believe I was blocked reasonably but I'm now capable to adhere by guidelines, policies, and my previous/current topic bans. I also believe I'm now competent enough. If you are concerned I'm wrong, I'm willing to provide all the necessary answers to make you trust me again. Michael H (talk) 23:43, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
This request does not have enough detail to make me confident that you understand why you were blocked and what you will do in the future to change your behaviour. In future requests, please outline the edits that led to the block, why there were wrong, and what you will do differently if unblocked. Z1720 (talk) 00:20, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.