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March 22

Moving article to more appropriate category

Kept for other's reference How do I move an article I recently created to a more appropriate category?

The article is

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Packer

I think it would fit better in this category: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Agricultural_magazines

That category is where it would be more relevant.

Thanks. Clarence Rutherford 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you clik "Edit this page", at the bottom there is written something like [[Category:Example]]. You change the category name, and the article is recategorised. The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 00:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Figured out answer. Thanks anyway.

Clarence Rutherford 00:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Inserting images

I can't for the life of me figure out how to insert a picture can you please help? Also, is there a way to have active links to my web sites without those little arrows that appear currently. Thanks so much for your help!!! Jim Paymar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jepay (talk • contribs) 11:48, 22 March 2007

See Help:Images for information. In reply to your second question, no, you cannot have external links without the little arrows. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It might also be worth reading Wikipedia:External links. While you can add external links to a Wikipedia article, you must not add links to your own site at all! Notinasnaid 10:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Userpage

helpme to set up my userpage - please direct me to an example of a well-written one... tx, RS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rstrawn (talk • contribs) 11:48, 22 March 2007

You can find a lot of help at Wikipedia:Userpages and Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Days before it got axed, I received the Esperanza Userpage Award, so my userpage might be worth taking a look at. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you need any more help place {{helpme}} on your userpage. Scottydude 16:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Compound Interest

Hi. My Name is Zaheer. How can i find the Interest Rate in the Compound Interest Formula.

E.g: Find the simple interest on 2 years and 3 months loan of Rs.100,000 which has an annual interest rate of 12%?

Although this is not categorized here, you can find more information here. Real96 05:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Help me create a template

Hi, I've been editing here for a long time, but I have no idea how to create a template. Frankly, I don't understand why the relevant project page doesn't explain it for dummies like me. What I want to do is the following. Most articles that contain chess notation have a clunky note in parentheses, somewhere in the article, "(see algebraic chess notation." I thought it would be better to replace or augment those with a simple template at the top of the article that says:

This article uses algebraic chess notation.

That's as technically unsophisticated as it gets. Can someone explain to me how to write the code? YechielMan 05:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, check the template page. Real96 05:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you want to write a template that adds the same text every time (like you do), go to the page [[Template:name of template]] and type the text that you want to add there, and it should work. --ais523 09:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there a way to sort the page alphabetically or by some other factor such as population

I'm specifically talking about this article: List of languages of Nigeria It would be nice to be able to sort languages alphabetically or by population. Is there a way to do that without creating another page and another list ? Of course I understand that the population data must be added to the list. For example Yoruba is a very popular language in Nigeria, used by about 20 million people, but appears at the end of the alphabetical list.--Mike Sorensen 05:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes there is Help:Sorting.--Commander Keane 05:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, very cool.--Mike Sorensen 07:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Walker, Texas Ranger, General Information about the Actor

While I am not in any way, shape, or form a professional when it comes to Karate (I hold no belt except for the one that holds up my pants), when you say that Walker ends a fight with a roundhouse kick I believe that the correct definition is a backward roundhouse kick. I could be wrong about this and am not attempting to be smart or dogmatic, but would simply like you to check it out with someone who is a Black Belt in one of the forms of Karate that he uses and see if I am not right in this matter? I believe that these sort of things are very important when you are writing a encyclopedia and therefore highly suggest that you check into this right away and after researching the issue, if it is warranted, make the change if it is deemed a more accurate call. Writing an Encyclopedia is a huge and unbelievably difficult task and I salute you in your efforts toward this end. While I certainly respect you in this process, I know that I certainly would not attempt such a task myself. But I do wish you only the best in your efforts towards this very public medium with everything expected to be letter perfect afterwards. Thank you and continue the good work172.191.78.202 09:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)Michael G. Murphy.

adding canals

I want to place a train track over a canal do you know the code for this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ucebaggie (talk • contribs) 09:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

• If you're a professional train track builder, you should know this, if you're not, I'm guessing this is related to a game, but without more information I don't know which one you're referring too. Either way, this question should go to the reference desk. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Requesting an article

Is there anyway that you could have someone else write an article that you want? Such as "National" Goof Off Day which is March 22

See Wikipedia:Requested articles. --ais523 11:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Information Request

Hi

I have noticed that my name are apearing several times on Wikipedia i therefor recomend you to incooporate the following:

Stefan G. Rasmussen Born 23rd of July 1947 in Randers, Denmark Trained as pilot in Danish Air force, Graduated from Williams Air Force Base, Arizona 8th of September 1973 class 74-01. Employed I SAS September 1979. On December 27, 1991, he was the Captain of SAS flight 751, a MD-81, OY-KHO who crashlanded at Gottröra, Sweden. In the initial climb both engines ingested ice breaking loose from the wings, which had not been properly deiced before departure. Both engines destroyed, leaving the aircraft with no propulsion. The aircraft landed in a field and broke in three parts. No fire broke out and all aboard the plane survived. Captain Stefan G. Rasmussen was later decorated by the Danish Queen for his outstanding and professional performance. Beside of that Stefan G. Rasmussen has received several recognitions like: IATA Polaris Award, IAPA Outstanding Service Award, Aviation Week & Space Tecnologi Laurals Award and Hall of Fame recognition, The Golden Medal from the Swedish King. Stefan G. Rasmussen was a member of The Danish Parliament from 1994 – 96 but had to stop due to a strong suffers from a Tinnitus he got after the SAS flight 751 incident. Today he is a sough lecturer, and author.

• See WP:AFC. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:BIO explains the rules as to who warrants a biography.

• WP:BIO#Primary criterion says: A person is notable if he or she has been the subject of secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent,⁶ and independent of the subject.

Therefore, you can help by supplying references to published works that establish the above claims, some of which already appear in Wikipedia articles (see below).

It looks as if an eponymous User:Stefan G. Rasmussen has already started a biography for Stefan G. Rasmussen (which at the moment needs wikifying). Beware WP:COI, but others should be able to edit it into an objective biography if published references are available for all the facts. Here are some links to assist with improving it:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography gives full details about how to write biography articles.
• This Google search finds two previously existing articles containing "Stefan G. Rasmussen":
  • Scandinavian Airlines Flight 751
  • Scandinavian Airlines System
• WP:BIO#Articles on Wikipedians also applies, since there is a Stefan G. Rasmussen article now, and a User:Stefan G. Rasmussen.

--Teratornis 23:32, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If you have any photos to illustrate the article on Stefan G. Rasmussen, and you can release them free from copyright, see Help:Images and other uploaded files. --Teratornis 04:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Repeat of old question

A while back, I asked a question related to this and started a short conversation about it, but never got the answer to this one small curiosity: Is it true that it's in no way a "bad" redundancy for an article to have a stub category in addition to the "regular version" of that category (such as Dinosaur stubs and Dinosaurs)? Or that, furthermore, this should basically be required, given that the stub category will disappear as soon as the stub template does, but the other one will not? If this is indeed the case, someone should put that information in black and white on the stub sorting page, because it seems a lot of users don't realize this, given the number of categorized stubs tagged with the Uncategorizing bot. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 14:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, stub categories don't count towards {{uncat}}, just as maintenance categories don't, and catting as well as stubbing is a good option, but I'm not sure if there's been a consensus on this. You might want to bring this up at the stub-sorting talk page to see what people there think. --ais523 14:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Telephone numbers

There are telephone numbers in the article on Hastinapura. Is this ok? 207.134.250.140 14:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Telephone numbers, email addresses and other personal infos are generally not allowed on Wikipedia. I went to the Hastinapura page, and found out that it had undergone several vandalisms since 5 February. I have edited the article and removed it. Thanks for informing here. --Joshua Chiew 14:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, good to know. 207.134.250.140 15:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Twin Peaks

Briefly. Stumbled upon the Wiki Twin Peaks entry while refreshing my memory prior to doing an on-camera interview for a new Twin Peaks DVD set (finally, the whole show in one box). The details regarding the second season are exactly backwards. David was far more present during the second season than the first -- the 'debunked' reason for his supposed absence in season two (he was busy with Wild At Heart) is in fact why he was otherwise engaged during much of the first season of production. In truth, it was Mark Frost who was busy elsewhere during the latter half of the second season, as he was prepping his directorial debut (Storyville).

It follows, of course, that none of the writers resented David's 'return' as he never went away. I am sending this not only to correct the error, but because the error itself seems a purposeful attempt to rewrite history.

Thanks for all your good work.

Harley Peyton (Writer, Producer, Twin Peaks) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.183.134.200 (talk) 14:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

May I suggest that you edit it. With your personal experience it seems that you would be a good contributer to the article. I would suggest getting a user account and editing the page. Scottydude 16:31, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Remember that articles need to cite reliable sources. Did you ever say this in an interview you can mention? If not, you should probably wait and cite the DVD interview as the source. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Starting new pages.

Hello, I've only contributed to entries that were up already and never a new one of my own http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Frisky_Dingo_episodes most of the info is there but I want to start a new page for each of the episodes to add longer summaries and cultural references. So how does one go about doing that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ta3kris (talk • contribs) 14:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

• I believe you just type in the name of the article you want to create into the search box and press go. If there is no page with that name, near the top of the page, under the search box and "No page with that title exists" it will say something about creating a page with that name, and provide a red link to the article-to-be. Just click on that red link to start editing the page. --LuigiManiac | Talk 15:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Also see here. Scottydude 16:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

font problem

Wikipedia appears on my computer at work in a Bradley Hand font for some reason. Can you tell me how to change that. It's only the Wikipedia site that does this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 136.142.131.25 (talk) 15:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

It could be that the computer at work has a custom skin or that the computer is set to view the site in a different font type. Scottydude 16:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

history

origin of american and canadian immigrants from 1870-1910 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Saulawa (talk • contribs) 16:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

This page is not for this! See the Reference desk. Scottydude 17:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Moving a page (not an faq)

Every now and then, i've seen a page moved over a redirect by many users, yet if i try, it seems to refuse and so require admin action. What is going on? It seems like some of these users are not admins and some are newcomers. Simply south 16:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you better explain what problem you have experienced? Any editor (after 4 days) can move a page, as you probably know, so it should always work. If you can provide a bit more specific information, maybe someone can shed light on it? Adrian M. H. 17:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Admins can move a page over a redirect whatever the circumstance. Other autoconfirmed (4+-day-old) users can move a page over a redirect only if

• the move reverses the redirect, and
• there is only one entry in the redirect's edit history.

Otherwise, use {{db-move}} on the redirect to request an admin to reverse it. Hope that helps! --ais523 17:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I think i see, thanks. Simply south 17:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect float in Internet Explorer

This relates to the following article: Northampton & Lamport Railway.

At the top of the page, on the right hand side is Template:Heritage Railway, followed by a line diagram (see WP:TRAIL). Between the two I have used Template:Clearright so that the line diagram appears on the right, below the infobox. When I previewed and saved the page it looked fine (using Firefox 1.5).

Internet Explorer 7 renders the page incorrectly, displaying the linemap on the right of the page but to the left of the infobox, so left to right you would see TEXT|LINEMAP|INFOBOX. Any way to get this looking right in IE?

-=# Amos E Wolfe ^talk #=- 17:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure if its what you were looking for but I moved the map into a different part of the text so it floats below the data table at the start of the article. Hope this helps! Scottydude 17:18, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Problem with the confirmation from Czech Wikipedia.

Dear Wiki, I've received the following text to confirm my registration to Wikipedia Czech:

Někdo (patrně vy, z IP adresy 89.13.33.205) si registroval účet se jménem "Hucul" a touto e-mailovou adresou na Wikipedii.

Pokud si přejete aktivovat e-mailové funkce na Wikipedii, tak pro potvrzení, že tato adresa opravdu patří vám, přejděte svým internetovým prohlížečem na následující adresu:

http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Confirmemail/368f51538d32e83eb39df15ec7e43ab9

Pokud jste o toto potvrzení *nežádali*, neklikejte na předchozí odkaz. Platnost tohoto potvrzovacího kódu vyprší 07:30, 27. 3. 2007.

However, the link does not work. I think the problem is in using the local Czech symbols in the link. What should I do?

Thank you. Best regards Jana —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.13.33.91 (talk) 17:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

You can use 'canonical names' to get round problems with browsers in certain languages: Speci%C3%A1ln%C3%AD:Confirmemail can become Special:Confirmemail. Changing the link to 'Special:Confirmemail' and visiting it, your email seems to have been confirmed, so you should be able to use email features on now. Hope that helps! --ais523 17:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Timeline Missing w/ No Reference

There seemed to have been confusion re Timeline of fictional future events. There was a two-member support (discussion 23 October 2006) for splitting the article due to inconsistancies in the ' tense ' of the submissions.

HOWEVER, List of fictional timelines, along with Category:Fictional timelines, make NO reference to the split or any similar OVERALL general-fiction timeline.

Since the original timeline is pretty rich & involved in interesting references, why not go beyond the ' tense ' problem & just re-label it as General Fictional Events Timeline or something similar, that offers no ' tense ' confusion ?

You'll notice that List of fictional timelines is a LIST of timeLINES, while my suggestion General Fictional Events Timeline is a SINGLE timeline of GENERAL fictional EVENTS (a change from the original title, the defunct page Timeline of fictional future events).

The original page's content is still rich in detail, with an amazing, general overall review, WHENever the events occur, as a group, in one place. It's content could be re-activated with a suggested title-change and a non-confusing introduction (WHENever proclaimed fictional events/predictions are made, for whatever period, they're still fictional).

I'm thinking this would alleviate the ' tense ' confusion.

4.155.30.60 18:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Links overlap other text in Firefox - articles unreadable!

Certain Wikipedia articles display links in such a way that they overlap the surround text, rendering the article essentially unreadable.

This happens on no other web pages that I ever visit, and not on every Wiki page.

I'm running Firefox/1.5.0.11, MacOS X, Unicode (UTF-8)

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.166.143.124 (talk) 18:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

There is a new version of firefox, which might fix this. http://getfirefox.com It could also be problems with Wikipedia. If you could point out the specific pages where this happens, that might help. — coelacan — 19:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I have the new version - installed it today, to no good effect...and the pages I'm having problems with include *this* one.

Here's a screenshot of a worse offender:

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I've been using Firefox to edit for the past few days, and I do not appear to be having any problems of the sort. I am using version 2.0.0.3 I think. --LuigiManiac | Talk 20:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• I don't see anything obvious in the html source that should cause that. I suspect there is a problem with CSS on the A tags, but I couldn't guess whether the problem is on this end or your end. If you have the patience for it I suggest filing bug reports at both projects, http://www.mozilla.org/support/firefox/bugs and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bugzilla . Sorry I can't be of more assistance. — coelacan — 20:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
• Do you have any Greasemonkey scripts, display altering extensions running or other settings that alter the display of links. I think a change to the CSS of your links is causing this. I have no such problems in Firefox, so it's likely something on your system. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

mega newbie question

Ahem. Err, hi there. What does the little red ka-thwang thingy --> ! <-- mean on the recent changes page? Bmackenty 18:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It means that nobody has checked the change to make sure that it isn't vandalism yet. (By the way, these 'patrol marks' aren't used on the English Wikipedia, but they are on some of the smaller ones.) --ais523 18:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

The top of Special:Recentchanges has a tiny-font link to Help:Recent changes, which explains all thingies on the Recent changes page. --Teratornis 23:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Multiple interlanguage links to same language

Sometimes an article in one language corresponds to two (or more) articles in another language. It is possible to insert multiple interlanguage links, but is it a good idea? I have not been able to find information or guidelines on this, although I recall seeing it somewhere... Also, at least one iw-robot, which shall remain nameless, removes such links. I would appreciate any information on this. /SvStorebror 18:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd say it's probably a bad idea due to the confusion that will result amongst users who see the same language name twice in the interwiki box. Wikipedia:Interlanguage links doesn't seem to have an opinion on its matter; asking on its talk page might be a good idea. --ais523 18:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that there are also bots that do work with these and I've heard that adding multiple links to the same language can mess them up. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 19:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• The box only lists the language, you can't see where it leads, so more than one link is going to cause confusion. I don't think it's a good idea and yes, it would royally mess up bots. - Mgm|^(talk) 23:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio?

The body of the text for Rivendell (software) is copied word-for-word from the Rivendell site, but it isn't spam, since it appears to be freeware. Should anything be done? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Clarityfiend (talk • contribs) 19:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

i'm really not sure. The software is free, but the license only applies to software. However, there is little to no assertion of notablity and the only source is the company website, so it would most likely fail an AFD Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, even if the software does pass notability, the text is copyvio and needs to be deleted. I've tagged it WP:CSD#G12 as there was nothing without copyvio to revert to. — coelacan — 20:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Freeware can spam too. Spam is defined as "unsolicited or undesired bulk electronic messages". It's not bulk but certainly unsolicited and unwanted. The fact it's free has nothing to do with it. It's still inappriopriate advertising. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Weird user and user talk pages: are these OK?

I would like some advice from more experienced editors about a couple of strange pages that I stumbled across. I was looking at Category:Online service providers yesterday and noticed that it included User:EOffice and User talk:EOffice. That seemed very strange to me; user and user talk pages aren't normally included in categories of encyclopedia articles, right? So I examined those pages, and they don't contain information about a user. Instead, both pages contain a brief description of a company called eOffice, including a link to the company's website. I thought, "These pages exist only to bring traffic from Category:Online service providers to the eOffice website. They are ads. And I'll bet they were created as user pages in order to bypass the scrutiny that a new article would receive."

Trying to decide what to do, I read Wikipedia:Deletion policy and saw that blatant advertising was considered grounds for speedy deletion. So I added a speedy deletion template to User:EOffice.

Today I see that an admin has simply deleted the template with the edit summary "not csd". I'm confused. Does this mean that these pages are perfectly OK, and I'm concerned for no good reason? Or does it mean that I should have done something other than nominate them for speedy deletion? Perhaps "blatant advertising" wasn't the best way to describe them. But I still think the pages are not valid user and user talk pages, they don't belong in Category:Online service providers, and they exist only to promote a company's website. If I'm wrong, please tell me. Thanks. Pat Berry 19:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It may not have been quite advert-y enough to warrant speedy deletion. I would suggest taking it to WP:MFD. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

They certainly didn't belong in the categories, and they have now been removed. I would also have thought they qualified for CSD, but every reviewing admin's opinion is a little different. I agree with Mr.Z-man, these can be taken to WP:MFD and that certainly seems appopriate. — coelacan — 20:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! I wasn't previously aware of WP:MFD. I nominated the user page there, and it was judged to be spam. It has been deleted. Pat Berry 05:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Editing a page

I entered several paragraphs on the page about the Undertone Series, but when the sections appeared on the website, a large part of it got relegated into the footnote section instead of in the main text. I must have entered a reference wrongly, although I don't see what's wrong with in my original text, which I pasted in. Can you help me straighten it out? Graham H. Jackson

You had the <ref/> in some of them, it should be </ref>. Also, you say you "copied it in." From where? Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 20:04, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks--I am new at this. I copied it from my own text, which I had drafted in Microsoft Word before entering it. No, I was not plagiarizing!76.64.131.139 23:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Lock on editing

How do I set up the 'Lock on Editing" mode? I am preparing to edit a Wikipedia page on Rose Stone. This is done by the direction of the artist. I don't want the information to be tampered with or changed.

However it is acceptable if someone wants to email me with other information.

Thank you (----) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Summerbentley1 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Only administrators can protect pages. Also, be very careful about editing people's pages at their request, especially if it is to remove negative information. Also, keep in mind that nobody, not even the subject of a page, owns it. Why can't these changes be discussed with the community? Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 22:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict)You can't have a page protected just so you can edit it. You can use {{inuse}} to deter other editors. Also, you really shouldn't edit "by the direction of the artist." Whatever you add needs to be attributable to a reliable source. Also read WP:COI first to make sure what you add isn't a conflict of interest. If you are doing more than correcting obvious factual errors, I would suggest a note on the talk page and a comment to WikiProject Biography for guidance. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 22:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

How to add to "Category: Political advocacy groups in the United States"

Hi--

I would like to add a couple organizations, Radical Women and the Freedom Socialist Party, to your lists of "Women's Advocacy Groups" and "Political Advocacy Groups." Both groups have Wikipedia pages and web pages. I don't see any way to edit these lists.

Thanks--HG —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.212.68.27 (talk) 22:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

Add [[Category:Women's advocacy groups]] and [[Category:Political advocacy groups]] to the pages, preferably in a group with any other categories. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 22:43, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

More click [Edit] and scroll down to where the other cats are. Then add them. OvrLoad 22:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

That did it--thanks!

How do you get User:AzaToth/twinklearv.js to work??????

It will not wokr. I copied it to my monobook still no happiness what is wrong. How do you even use it???? Crap, I'v been at this problem all day and still no luck please tell me, because I'm about to punch my computer lights out...(ha ha ha Literally eh?). --OvrLoad 22:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

• Go to WP:TWINKLE, it only works if you include the all the lines it lists. (By using the "include" code you don't have to copy all the text and it will be automatically updated if the original files get altered. - Mgm|^(talk) 22:53, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Are you using Firefox? It only works in Firefox and not Internet Explorer. -- Hdt83 | Talk 23:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

More citations needed?

The article Aqua Teen Hunger Force failed a GA nomination; one of the two reasons was because of not enough citations (the other reason is the then instability, which is no longer an issue). How many citations does it need? What statements need citations? Do I need a citation for every sentence? Every word? How many?!?

Can someone look at the article and add a {{fact}} tag to anything that you think needs it? Then I can add the necessary citations and get this thing through GA. I think that it's fine; nothing else that I think could use another citation.. :: ZJH ^{(T C E)} 23:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

What I meant by not enough citations was that some sections had inline cites, some didn't. Inline citations are not a requirement for GA, but all of the references are associated with one or more inline cites. There is nothing for the rest of the article, which suggests there are no sources for the rest of the article. If the existing citations can verify the all of the article, just add more inlines, or the lazy way, get rid of all the inlines and use a general "References" section (not recommended). For example, the "Overview" section:

• Overview 3 citations
• Origins 0 citations
• Title 2 citations
• Cold openings 0 citations

Hope this helps -- Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 23:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Why does a user's contributions page…

…not list since-deleted articles? $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 23:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Because when the articles are deleted, the contributions page doesn't see the edit anymore. But there wouldn't be any links to see anyway. Prodego ^talk 23:57, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

There would be links, they'd just be red. Wouldn't it be extremely useful to see which pages a user has tried to create? What's the reasoning for not having this? $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 12:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

A deletion may not have been a consequence of their work (ie, they might have tried to improve it) and one would have to study the page history to discover that. So having red links might be misleading. That may not be the reason why, though. Adrian M. H. 16:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Good points; thanks for answering. $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 21:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

March 23

Consolidation of Articles? HELP REQUEST!

I've noticed a lot of combining(unifying) of information into one Page of a Subject... for example P-frame.

For me, and I believe for any other user, it is easier to find the wanted information if not such a huge page has to be "scanned"...

It also is more Suitable for finding considered the bad search facilities provided by Wikipedia... and it encourages people to write their few knowledge on a very thin part of a Subject(ppl. tend to be overwhelmed by a large Text)

Also keep in mind there are disabled persons out there who may have dyslexia ... huge articles makes it almost impossible for them to comprehend.

btw. I'm not an ELCH so please don't Troll on that ... only consider this thought on your next "unification raid" 84.183.253.152 09:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

The guidelines about the size of articles can be found at Wikipedia:Article size and Wikipedia:Summary style. If you disagree with those policies, you should raise your objections at the respective talk pages. If the guidelines are okay but aren't being followed, you should point that out on the talk page of the article that is a problem - for example, at Talk:Video compression picture types, and see what other editors think.

And the English Wikipedia does not have any such thing as a Wikipedia-wide "unification raid". -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Image permission

I had the following text in an email from the United Nations Photo Librarian:

You have our permission to use UN photos in Wikipedia. Please make sure each one is credited as follows: UN Photo/photographer's name (if available). Thank you.

Does this mean that I have permission to use all UN photos on Wikipedia? Can I just grab any UN photo and make sure that it's properly credited? Also, what licensing should I use?--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 00:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

We'd need licensing for all pictures; Wikipedia-only use is incompatible with the GFDL. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 00:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

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Does this mean that I have to immediately get all my UN pictures deleted? Or could we wait while I get a clarification from the UN?--Ed ^{¿Cómo estás?} 00:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• You can wait until you get clarification. If they are okay with anyone else using them (if credited) you can tag it accordingly. Otherwise, yes, you'd have to delete them. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:50, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • A little more info: anyone agreeing their pictures can go in Wikipedia must be prepared that their pictures are used anywhere, for any purpose, by anyone, subject only to retaining information on the license and credit. Notinasnaid 09:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Changed Image?

Should the bloke be displayed on the "Ginger" page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginger —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.11.163.252 (talk) 00:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

Nope, it shouldn't be. It was added by Kangaroopoo (talk · contribs) (merely trying to be funny, I hope). Kangaroopoo registered for the account less than a day ago. You can see that he (or she) changed the source of the image from Image:ARS_ginger.jpg to Image:Jonnolep.jpg (the latter may be deleted soon) here. The change was reverted two hours later -- about two minutes before you posted here. This isn't ideal, but it's important that it gets done by someone. Gracenotes^T § 00:53, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

68.230.99.206 00:50, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Radon, sort of

The article on radon mentions around 20,000 deaths per year owing to domestic radon exposure with the note <citation needed>. I've got a good one from the Journal of Epidemiology but I can't figure out how to tell Wikipedia. All I can find is info on how a citation should be formatted, which I don't need. Dfrishman 01:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Have you read Wikipedia:Citing sources? It explains pretty well how to add references. If you still need help, reply again, and I'll give more detailed instructions. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 01:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• There's Wikipedia:Citation templates. One of them is to reference journals. - Mgm|^(talk) 08:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

If you need help about making changes in Wikipedia generally, see the Introduction. (By the way, we'd prefer to have even incorrectly entered sources than no sources at all; don't worry about making a mistake.) --ais523 09:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• Agreed; even if you enter it improperly another Wikipedian can easily fix it. Once we know what the source is it shouldn't be too hard to get it properly formatted. If all else fails post the necessary information on the talk page. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 18:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism from Edgerton High School

I am a student at Edgerton High School, and I'd like to personally apologize for the streak of vandalism that you've been recieving from my fellow students. I don't know who is doing it, but please understand that this is most likely an isolated number. The IP address for the school is 216.56.3.195

I have used school computers to make my own changes, but none of them are of a malicious/mischievous nature. What follows is a list of changes I have personally made to wikipedia articles under school computers.

14:32, 16 October 2006 (hist) (diff) List of My Life as a Teenage Robot episodes (→Season 3: 2006-2007)

17:17, 13 November 2006 (hist) (diff) Toy Story (→Toy Story in pop culture)

16:20, 15 January 2007 (hist) (diff) Xenu (→Xenu in popular culture)

19:56, 13 February 2007 (hist) (diff) The Shawshank Redemption (→Plot)

17:27, 13 February 2007 (hist) (diff) The Shawshank Redemption

15:47, 13 February 2007 (hist) (diff) The Shawshank Redemption (→Plot)

20:54, 12 February 2007 (hist) (diff) The Shawshank Redemption (→Plot)

15:21, 12 February 2007 (hist) (diff) The Shawshank Redemption (→Plot)

19:39, 9 March 2007 (hist) (diff) Springfield's state (→Kentucky)

18:52, 22 March 2007 (hist) (diff) Chad Doreck (→Television) (top)

Again, I have no knowledge of the perpetrators, but I apologize to you for them, and ask you to understand that this is a school system and it may take us a while to get things sorted out.

Sincerely, Aaron Foster 71.13.159.204 01:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You should think about registering a username. This means that you won't be associated with the other edits from your school's network. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 01:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Registered or not, you're very welcome here. Nice attitude. It's pity about the minority who think that vandalism is fun, but I guess they'll always exist. For the most part, their "work" gets reverted quickly. Adrian M. H. 16:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Changing article's name

The article 'Derawar fort' should be at 'Derawar Fort.' How do I change the page name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ardour (talk • contribs) 13:06, 23 March 2007

See Help:Moving a page. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 02:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

My account isn't old enough to move pages. Could you please move Derawar fort to the correct page title? Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ardour (talk • contribs) 02:32, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

I've listed it here. An admin will take care of it soon, either one who frequents WP:RM, or who happens to be strolling by this page. Gracenotes^T § 02:43, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Page Width

What is considered the standard resolution for a wikipedia viewer? For example if you make a table on a page, generally they are made to fit 1024x768 or above resolution (I know there is dynamic resizing anyway, but it makes the cells two lines instead of one). Is there a standard screen size that should be considered when making templates/tables and pages in general?

Basically I want to update a template that is basically a 3 coloumn table by making it 6 coloumn so that it doesnt go down the page as far, this way you can see more enteries on one screen and the article is smaller, however for lower resolution it would just make the cells twice as big and make it awkward to read. What is the standard?--155.144.251.120 02:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• Ai, this has bedeviled developers since time immemorial. Maybe someone has a metric on this, but I don't think that there is one right answer. My own personal practice is to base on 1024 x 768, based on a guess that 800 x 600 resolution is becoming less common as systems are replaced. Herostratus 02:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• 155.144.251.120: From what I've gathered, most Wikipedians use 1024x768. I can't say that most viewers use that, however. It's important that pages are accessible for everyone, with minimal scrolling. I've spent a fair amount of time checking back and forth between screen resolutions, to make sure that text looks fine regardless of resolution. See Template:World War II—it extends the 800x600 viewing screen by a bit, but not by much. Same with Template:USCongressTerms. 155, it really depends on the case. Perhaps setting style="font-size:80%" might decrease the font size somewhat. It should probably be an objective to keep it in the screen. Gracenotes^T § 02:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I would hope nobody designs so things only work on screens as large as 1024x768. Although I have a screen that large, and others larger, I don't use browsers at full screen size. So I would recommend a width of 800 at the very limit; web designers tend to the assumption that nothing is as important as their page, so of course the viewer will willingly give up all of their screen, but I don't agree. Notinasnaid 09:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I've seen a link floating around asking people to join this project which aims to make all pages 800x600 compliant. It's an implicit HTML thing that says that everyone with sensible standards for today can see a webpage with no obvious breaks. In this case, 800x600. I believe today's lowest standards are something like 800x600x16-bit, running Internet Explorer 5.0 or its Gecko equivalent, and I think that's sensible to aim for. x42bn6 Talk 11:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

download

i want to download Swami vivekananda books .how i can do it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.65.134.34 (talk) 09:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

Are these books something in Wikipedia? Notinasnaid 10:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Marathi version

KINDLY ADVISE ME HOW SHOULD CHANGE THIS ENGLISH VERSION TO MARATHI VERSION

• When you visit Wikipedia, look at the web address you have in your browser. It will start http://en ... The en is the English version. If you go to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias, you will get a full list of available languages, and if you go to the one you want, you will see what web address it has. Notinasnaid 10:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

In this case, mr:मुखपृष्ठ. x42bn6 Talk 11:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Saving edits

I have made an edit to the article on Tipitapa but can't figure out how to save the changes. Please advise. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DosPueblos (talk • contribs) 10:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

• Below the box where you are editing text, you'll see an "edit summary" box. Fill that in with a summary which will help other editors understand the reason for the edit. Then click the Save page button below that. Done! Notinasnaid 10:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Infoboxes

How do you put infoboxes inro articles? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Supermiggelo (talk • contribs) 10:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

Take your pick at Wikipedia:Infobox templates. Then you can go to the discussion page and it will tell you how to use it, although some list it on the template itself. For example, see Template:Infobox actor. x42bn6 Talk 11:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

If looking at the documentation on the infobox page itself does not tell you exactly what to do, you can also look at examples of an infobox in use. Browse to the infobox page (such as Template:Infobox actor), and click toolbox | What links here (for example: Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox actor). Every link on the resulting page with a "(transclusion)" after it is a page that has a filled-in example of the infobox. Browse to some of those pages and click the edit tab to see examples of how to use the infobox. You could then copy one instance to your article, and edit the input values accordingly.

If you can't find a suitable infobox template by browsing through Wikipedia:Infobox templates, try looking through other articles similar to your article, and see if any of them have infoboxes. You may find similar articles by clicking on the category links at the bottom of your article, by searching, or by browsing the contents. If you still can't find a suitable infobox, tell us the name of your article and someone will find one for you, or help you design a new one if there isn't a suitable one already. --Teratornis 16:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Software articles

I'm currently in a bit of a dispute on an article about a piece of software. Without seeking anyone to jump in at this stage, I'd welcome views on the general principles of product comparison. Suppose the product is the direct rival of another product.

• Should this be mentioned?
• Should comparisons (of features, performance etc.) be mentioned if they can be sourced?
• Should an effort be made to balance positives with negatives, if positive sourced compatisons are a good idea? What if they can't be found?
• If a source has both negative and positive points, does fairness require quoting them both, even if the negative ones aren't in an area currently under discussion?
• Should praise or criticism be removed if it applies to an older version of the software than is current?
• Does it make any difference if the two companies are wildly different in scale?
• If these are leading questions, please advise how I could make them less so.

If there are policies or guidelines beyond general WP:NPOV I can refer to and/or quote that would be particularly useful. Notinasnaid 11:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• I'd keep product comparison to a minimum in an article about a specific product. Of course, good and bad things about a specific piece of software can be named as long as it is kept balanced. "Should praise or criticism be removed if it applies to an older version of the software than is current?" --> No, just mention it was about an older version and include info on how the latest version was received. If companies are largely different in scale, it matters. You shouldn't compare Microsoft Word with yWriter to name an example. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. But in the article for yWriter, is it proper to compare it with Microsoft Word, to say that people prefer it because...? Notinasnaid 11:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• You could perhaps say why some people prefer a freeware program over a big commercial one, but even if it puts the small one in a good light I would refrain from using names. Don't praise software at the expense of something that is totally in another league. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:59, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • How about why some people prefer one no-cost commercial program over another no-cost commercial product from a much bigger company? (Sorry to be pendantic, but the difference may be important). And what if this would be implicit even if names were not used? Notinasnaid 12:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
• What is a no-cost commercial program? - Mgm|^(talk) 13:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I long-ago found that Wikipedia had subsumed the term "free software" to apply to a particular status of intellectual property rather than the more common English meaning of "software you don't have to pay for", so I can't use the term "free but commercial software". In this case I mean proprietary or, closed-source, software, that is available without paying a fee. Notinasnaid 13:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
  • (Ah, I find the approved term is indeed "freeware"). Notinasnaid 13:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Some general notes on software comparisons:

• As you undoubtedly know, articles exist respectively to list and compare programs having similar functions. It would seem that the place to compare similar programs is in a comparison article, and the way to compare them is to list their respective features, and perhaps usage statistics if available. For example:
  • List of text editors / Comparison of text editors
  • List of wiki software / Comparison of wiki software
  • Category:Lists of software / Category:Software comparisons
• I don't understand what you mean by "the product is the direct rival of another product." What does this mean? That both products, acting autonomously, vie for control of all the world's computers? To say that a product is the direct rival of another product seems to reify the products, as if they are two humans who actively compete with each other. The more likely situation is that one or both vendors attempt to position their product against the other, in the course of their marketing schemes, with the goal of evoking rivalry between the products in the minds of potential customers. The users may view the products in any number of ways:
  • Some users may be well aware of both products, and experienced enough in the use of both to make an actually informed comparison. Some of these users may well view the products as direct rivals. Others may not view the products as rivals at all, because they rely on special features of one program, and they can't use the other one.
  • I suspect very users have detailed knowledge of both products, because learning new software is so laborious that most people tend to stick with whatever package they happen to learn first. (For example, I am much more familiar with vi than with emacs, because once I learned vi, I had no incentive to spend many hours becoming equally familiar with emacs. For me, the two programs are not rivals, because I cannot compare them on an equal basis. The fact that I am so much more capable with vi makes it an overwhelmingly "better" program for me.)
  • Some users may not have heard of the "rival" product.
  • Some users may not even be immediately aware of which product they are using, for example corporate users who just use whatever software their IT departments install for them. These users, who may be numerous, may be pretty much immune to the vendors' efforts to manufacture a perception of rivalry with their marketing schemes.

Therefore, I would say if you are going to mention this "rivalry" in the article about one or the other package, that you should explain exactly what that means. Are you talking about an advertising rivalry, or an actual rivalry between computer programs in which they seek out instances of each other on users' computers and try to delete them? --Teratornis 14:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• • Actually, it doesn't use the word rival, that's just me abstracting. Here is a highly stylised version of part of the article (actually, about half of it). "It is notable for its short small download size and fast loading, which are sometimes favorably compared to name of rival. The previous version was, however, criticised for excessive memory usage(sourced). It runs on older versions of Windows, which recent versions of rival do not. It is favoured by some system administrators of Windows servers, since unlike rival it does not require reboots after updates." I'm trying to avoid discussing the actual products here, because I have found in the past that getting too definite means we don't get policy discussions, which to me is more useful than fixing up one article. So, any more thoughts? Notinasnaid 19:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

My brain has yet to experience a thought shortage, and I think the world is entitled to them, although valuable thoughts may be a different story. Personally, I'm not a big fan of the "some say..." style of packaging POV claims. I like to see those claims attributed to someone definite; or, if not to a person, then to some fraction of users as determined in some sort of statistically valid survey of users.

Are there only two programs of this type which system administrators would normally choose between? If there are more than two, then why compare only two of them? In any case, I would try to downplay the rivalry and stick to measurable facts as much as possible. A partial stab in that direction, which probably needs adjusting depending on what data is available:

• "It has a download size of X MB (translating to N min:sec on a typical broadband link of Y b/s) and loading time of N sec on (some well-defined benchmarking computer). (If people want to see how big and fast another product is, they can look at its article.) It runs on Windows 98, ME, 2000, XP, and Vista (or whatever; that list should be in the article's infobox anyway). It does not require reboots after updates, a feature valued by X% of system administrators surveyed (source; or if no source is available, then say nothing about what system administrators like, since we don't really know; just point out that no reboots are required, since that's all we know for sure).

If you have published sources that compare the two products, you could summarize their claims in a separate section and cite them. If one vendor specifically built its product to compete with the other product, you could describe the history of the vendor rivalry in another section. I wouldn't mix the comparison into what appears to be a description of one of the products (not that my preference carries any weight around here, of course). Is there already a comparison article for programs of this type? --Teratornis 21:29, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

headline

how do i change the headline in an artcicle.

I have contributed to Sentinel Records but the headline has a small r for records and seraches are not picking this up —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doctorscobes (talk • contribs) 11:46, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

• That's not a headline, that's the article's title. It can be changed by moving the page which you can do when your account is 4 days old.

Unfortunately, the article looks a lot like advertising at the moment. You should provide some reliable sources to show notability - other people who wrote about the label that are not related to it. Why is it important? Has it got any major artists signed? - Mgm|^(talk) 11:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Multi-disambiguation raccomanded?

What is the thing to do with multiple disambiguation pages? I read on WP:D this can be done without issues but what would be the ideal method?

I am currently consider: A) Embedding the whole thing in the actual disambiguation. This will be some sort of structured tree, I don't really know the details for now.
B) Point the current disambiguation to a new more specific one, pointing to the articles.

MaxDZ8 talk 13:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation can be a tricky business, and both of those options are more or less valid. For this multiple-level disambiguation, you should be trying to point to a specific article unless there's definitely a multiple-level ambiguity in the terms. What page in particular are you talking about? Maybe I can take a look... Nihiltres 13:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your help! There's really nothing you can check for now since the actual page became a stub. The page I am working on (offline) is shader. Initially, the page was a stub. Back in 2005 I updated an in-depth description of the inner workings. Many people however complained it was actually too technical and pointed out a few (less authorative) references, usually clearly with a poor understanding of the topic.
This problem has been tackled a few times. In the recent months, the article is no more actively developed by me. As suggested by a few users, a whole set of articles shall be written. Unluckly, only few pointed out what those articles should be. Recently an user pointed out an use case i didn't know it clearly deserves a page of its own. It is clear that there should be a disambiguation page, an introduction page (redlink, no one seemed to be interested in writing this), this third page (which is film-industry related I guess, i would expect this to be a redlink as well) and a page on offline page (likely a redlink/stub as well).
Other pages that may become used:

• Example - many, many user requests. Unluckly, there's no hint on what they want to see so this would be a redlink. Would be a redlink/stub.
• Applications - regularly spawns on anything that's remotly technical. Would fill in by sure.
• ?Hardware? - some user requests. Unluckly, there are no autoritative sources I know of defining this. It is not even sure this shall be the correct name. There's a high probability this would spawn inaccurate, badly referenced information.
• Other?

Also, some users pointed out the current page name should be deprecated. It seems a good idea to turn it in the second-level disambiguation page but aggregating the information in the current page would also be a good idea.
Anyway, the real issue is that all those needs cannot really be addressed in a single page, so the need for the disambiguation.
Bottm line: since WP is a collaborative environment, both disambiguation pages i know (Shade (disambiguation) and especially Shading) have changed since last time I've checked them.

MaxDZ8 talk 09:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

AXA

I read the article about AXA. I work for AXA and I know the company quite well.

The article mentions Andrew Bull and Gordon Lacey headed AXA IM. This appears to be some form of joke or vandalism. Note:

1) AXA IM is just one division - why mention who heads up that division 2) These guys seem to be in the property division of AXA IM - again just one part of AXA IM. 3) I've worked quite a bit with AXA IM - and I never heard of them

Thanks.

Thanks for your comments. I agree and have removed mention of Bull and Lacey from AXA. PrimeHunter 15:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

(help-Me)

When was wikipedia posted online? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.146.90.157 (talk) 14:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC).

Wikipedia has been around since 15 January 2001, and was online from the very start. In contrast to most enyclopedias, Wikipedia started empty and was created by being edited by the general public (and you could add to or improve it right now if you wanted, by clicking on 'edit this page' on any page). See Wikipedia:About for more information. --ais523 14:50, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia and especially Wikipedia#History. --Teratornis 14:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

And also see Bomis for information about Wikipedia's early source of funding, until the project became self-supporting. --Teratornis 14:54, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• People asking this question are usually looking for info on how to cite Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. - Mgm|^(talk) 17:39, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Printing "Web colors" article IN COLOR

I feel like a nitwit, because there is probably something really obvious that I am overlooking, BUT ....

Why can't I print this great article that gives the values for the web colors in color? Why am I only able to get a black-and-white copy, which is really useless?

Is there someplace I can find information on printing problems? I can't find it.

Thanks very much to anyone who can help.

Barbcapp 14:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Mhh, Well it could be your printer (I'm not saying anything about it), maybe you don't have any colour ink in, If not then you could try taking an automatic picture of your screen when they are being viewed by you by pressing Prt Scr (on Microsoft Windows) and then although it does not print it, you could then paste it into a word document and print it, that should work - please follow up if this continues. Thanks! Tellyaddict 15:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Your browser will have printing options, one of which may dictate the use of colour. I often print web pages in B+W as they're not usually colour-critical. Also, your printer's utility will have a greyscale/colour option. I have accidentally left mine on greyscale a few times! Hope that helps some. Adrian M. H. 17:04, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the suggestions. The paste to Word method works. I still don't understand why I can't print in color directly from the article, but I can get a color copy by printing the Word doc. Barbcapp 12:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Addendum: TellyAddict's solution is the best one to try. Take a screenshot of the page and dump it into Word as a picture. See my explanation below to know why it won't print right directly from Wikipedia. Guroadrunner 13:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

A possible reason is because of the coding of that Wikipedia article.

The article uses "table background colors" - so what you see as colors is not what a printer mechanically sees. The colors in the article are not images that the printer will print, but instead something else that utilizes a handy form of code.

Try printing this page: http://www.htmlcodetutorial.com/tables/index_famsupp_183.html. If you do not get the green/blue box in your printed page, then the Wikipedia thing won't work either. You may want to try VisiBone's website at http://html-color-codes.com/ and see what happens.

Guroadrunner 13:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I can't speak for other browsers, but if you have Internet Explorer, you can change your settings so that background colors do print. (Of course, doing this will print the color background on the whole page, too.) Click on Tools, then Internet Options and Advanced. Scroll down to the Printing section and check "Print background colors and images." — Michael J 23:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

total number of edits

how can i see my total number of edits?--Falcon866 16:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

See here for an edit counter. Regards - Tellyaddict 16:51, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

There is a list of edit counters available at Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters. --ais523 17:23, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

just make sure that you don't catch Editcountitis. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 22:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

If you do, you might find yourself adding useless comments like this one to Help desk questions just to see your count increase. A better measure of Wikipedia attainment might be how many articles you have helped raise to featured status. Sadly, by that measure, I still have no points on the board. --Teratornis 16:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

colors

where can I find a list of colors corresponding to their numbers (as used in templates/infoboxes, etc)? 68.149.135.29 17:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I tend to refer to Wikipedia:Colours and List of colors - a bit of visual comparison and experimentation is sometimes required. Adrian M. H. 17:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Bear in mind a full list would have 24 million entries, so knowing something about what the numbers mean is a help. Notinasnaid 19:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

This is a nice source. Prodego ^talk 21:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

March 24

Reenactor Entertainment

The official Reenactor Entertainment Wiki suddenly disapeared. As CEO and founder of Reenactor Entertainment, I issue a concern over this. As I was updating the Wiki, it suddenly disapeared. This is much to me and my colleagues suprise, since it has been up for several years, and in 5 minutes the entire Wiki dissapears. It seems as though the most likely thing that happened was that your database was having issues and Wikipedia temporarily glitched and all or most of its pages were temporarily (or with a very slim chance) permenantly deleted. Reenactor Entertainment will be willing to work with Wikipedia in fixing this problem.

Ah, no. That was definitely deleted by me, because the article failed to assert any notability. Also, you should not edit pages that you have a conflict of interest with, since you will almost always be biased. And I see the page as only being there for about five months (since 11 November 2006), not several years. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 21:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) According to the log, it was deleted as it did not give any assertion of notability (see here for more details on the policy). If you disagree, you can nominate it for undeletion at WP:DRV. As you say you work for the company, I would not suggest that you rewrite the article yourself, per WP:COI. Mr.Z-mantalk¢Review! 21:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

That article was deleted at 21:26, 23 March 2007, by administrator Veinor. He supplied the reason as "A7; no claims of notability". Take a look at Wikipedia:Notability, as well as WP:CSD (what the A7 refers to). Prodego ^talk 21:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Reenactor Entertainment would be glad to aid Wikipedia in getting thier database back. If you do not have a backup of a previous time in Wikipedia, you may try This Way Back Machine.

There was no sort of database loss. The page was intentionally deleted because it failed to assert that Reenactor Entertainment satisfied the notability guidelines. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 21:42, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• Side note: you should probably read the definition of the word wiki. If you want an official Reenactor Entertainment wiki, you can read up on how to start your own site using wiki software. There's nothing official about the page otherwise, because articles aren't owned by any particular editor, others would be allowed to edit it too here on Wikipeda. - Mgm|^(talk) 21:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

User:xgmx As CEO and founder of Reenactor Entertainment, I must have been wrong as to the exact date that the Wiki was created, I assumed it was several years old since, I founded Reenactor in 2005. However it appears we didn't get noticed by Wikipedia until late 2006. <spam removed - Corvus cornix 22:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)>

As Mgm's side note above indicates, "Wiki" refers to a whole wiki site, not just one particular page on a wiki site. Please read the wiki article carefully. Wikipedia is an example of a wiki (a very large and popular one); there are thousands of wikis. If you want to start your own wiki, which you can control completely, see MediaWiki and b:Wiki Science/How to start a wiki. If you merely want to get your now-deleted Wikipedia article back up on some other wiki, you can search WikiIndex for a wiki which would welcome your content. There are wikis for almost every sort of content anyone would want to write, so you can probably find a wiki which will accept your article even if Wikipedia does not. --Teratornis 00:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

You could also look at Wikipedia:Alternative outlets for places where an article on your company would be acceptable. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:06, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

wikpedia programing code?

I would like to create some type of code that could be pasted into any category and cause the articles to be rearranged by distance from a particular location. Any suggestions about how I might go about this? Irate velociraptor 22:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Simply put, not possible. There's no way to do that in the underlying MediaWiki software. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 22:06, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Not exactly what you asked for, but there seem to be ways to link the geographical coordinates in (some) Wikipedia articles to maps:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#Visualization of Wikipedia articles with Google Maps
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Geographical coordinates#WikiMiniAtlas JavaScript plugin
• User:John Broughton/Editor's Index to Wikipedia#Map - for several map-related links of potential interest to editors

--Teratornis 00:41, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

HOW DO I DELET MY WIKIPEDIA ACCOUNT?

How do I delete my Wikipedia account? I want to delete my user name and password. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rampa Zinuru (talk • contribs) 13:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

It isn't possible. Sorry. PTO 02:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Read Right to Vanish and also know that you can scramble your password (don't know how it's done but I know users who have done it). Anchoress 02:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

You can put {{db-author}} on your userpage and talk page to request that they be deleted. Scottydude 15:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

hello

i have a qusestion, installed pictures on araden , but now i want to delete them and they are keep turning up. whey is that/... please delete them for ever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhirmiz (talk • contribs) 14:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Images_for_deletion to request for their deletion. --Spebi 03:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

My Story disappeared

And I was wondering where it went, there is no log of it! And it was available on wiki search. What is going on with this system?

thanks, -Rodger Nugent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodger.nugent (talk • contribs) 17:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps it was deleted--$UIT 06:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

What was the article name? --Spebi 06:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

It most likely was deleted - have a read of Why was my page deleted? to find out more. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 06:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

photos

The photos in Wikipedia articles do not appear in my browser. Only a blank space with a tiny square with a red X appears. Is there something wrong with my browser? I don't have this problem with other websites.

Did you try refreshing?--$UIT 07:26, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Some advert-blockers are a little overzealous and end up blocking Wikipedia's image servers by mistake. If you're using an ad-blocker, look through its list of blocked sites and remove anything thing containing wikipedia.org or wikimedia.org. --ais523 17:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

And some block third-party sites for a webpage - i.e. if I put a Google image on my forum, it would be blocked - so you might want to add upload.wikimedia.org and commons.wikimedia.org to the whitelist. x42bn6 Talk 18:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Question about WikiTables...

Well, I decided to make myself in charge of the Comparison of portable media players article, and I always wanted to find ways to enhance it. Then, I came across another article with tables, Road to the 79th Academy Awards. I wanted to use that article's table format (List section). Can someone teach me to make that kind of table? (Ascending/Descending switches) --Jw21 (PenaltyKillah) 07:32, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

It's pretty easy to change to format. All you do is swap the line class="wikitable" with class="wikitable sortable". -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 08:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Is there also a way to make those tables, which have columns and sub-columns, sortable too?--Jw21 (PenaltyKillah) 09:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think so, sorry. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 11:57, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Links

I'm confused about something:

• Is it really necessary to add external link in an article? What if, that notable article didn't have weblink? For example: Organization (University, School, Company), Place and other notable topic that doesn't have weblink. I found some University and school article that don't have website, but it's notable.

• Are organizations, place and other notable topics (except biography) website considered to be self-published website? Can I take information from its own website and write it in my own words?

• And also Can I use notable topics website as reference? For example: Using University/school/organization website as a reference in its own article? THANKS in advance.--203.202.246.133 08:45, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
• Here's what I consider to be the answers: 1) No, external links aren't required as long as you have sources (web or paper ones) to verify the information in the article. Entries don't have to have external links. 2) Any website a person or organization writes about themself is technically self-published. It's okay to take information from such places, but you have to have other sources to determine their notability, because no one is qualified or neutral enough to determine that about themselves. 3) I think this was already covered in question 2. - Mgm|^(talk) 13:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

In general, it has been decided that accredited universities and schools are notable. This is because there are usually quite a lot of published sources describing them. If you can find no other source than the organization's website then it may not be notable. I would say that the organization's website couldn't be used to establish notability as it is self-published, but could be used a source for claims in the article and probably should be listed in the external links section. The relevant guidelines are Wikipedia:External links and Wikipedia:Notability.—WAvegetarian (talk) 13:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Vandal Removing Speedy Deletes

There is a situation where a guy is removing my speedy delete from a page he created. But he is using two IPs and a user account. It's only happened once so far, but what do you do if a guy is removing Speedy Deletes off of articles he created? And I'm 100% certain the article qualifies for speedy delete, if you want proof it is this junk Roy Kelly article. Twipie 08:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Revert, report user to AIV. -Wooty Woot? contribs 09:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• Reporting them as a vandal seems a bit WP:BITEY. You should probably make them aware you can't remove speedy tags. If that fails, you can tell them which rules it violates or put it on AFD. Mgm|^(talk) 13:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Use the Template:uw-speedy user warning series (uw-speedy1.....to uw-speedy4) on their talk page. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 13:54, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that guys. And I called the person a vandal because the whole page was just a page filled with a whole bunch of swearing in CAPS. --Twipie 19:00, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Templates for Characters of Books

On an arcticle about a book character, how do I get a profile, like Template:Inheritance Character Box? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazymagic (talk • contribs) 22:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Inheritance Character box has lower case b. Click edit at Durza for an example of how to use it. If the character is from another book which has no template (make sure of that first), then you can create one, e.g. by copying and modifying Template:Inheritance Character box. It's probably only worth making a template if it's likely to be used several times. You can ask for help at Wikipedia:Requested templates. PrimeHunter 12:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

How do I keep my entry from getting deleted?

Hello. I have posted an article relating to an ecommerce site that I have and for whatever reason it has been deleted! Why did this happen and how can I help from getting my future articles erased? Sevonne 11:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? for some helpful information. -SpuriousQ (talk) 12:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Also see Wikipedia:deletion policy and Wikipedia:criteria for speedy deletion thanks. Retiono Virginian 17:06, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding a URL link to a page

I'm the Editor and Publisher of the Website Digital Cinema Report and would like to add a link to my site to you section on digital cinema. How can I do that? Thanks. 68.193.92.186 13:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is not a directory. Before posting, make sure that your link satisfies the appropriate guideline. —Dark•Shikari^[T] 13:50, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Issues re. "No original research"

A recent biography about a living person (from a first-time publisher) widely makes considerable use of highly biased web-based material from dubious sources.

It is acceptable to use such a source to inform a Wikipedia article? Revera 13:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a policy of NPOV. If the article is neutral, that it's acceptable, but the NPOV links should be decreased or even removed. The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 14:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

• Of course, you mean POV links. If they were NPOV there wouldn't be a problem to begin with. (The N in NPOV stands for neutral.). - Mgm|^(talk) 16:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps more relevant policies are WP:BLP and WP:ATT, particularly the section about reliable sources. A bio on a living person should not be using dubious sources and any poorly sourced contentious content must be removed. -SpuriousQ (talk) 16:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Why doesn't the MediaWIki software...

... allow for redirects to Special pages? Is there a rationale (like the rationale for not allow double or triple redirects), or is it simply a technical limitation that might eventually be overcome? $\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 15:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I know some wikis that run off this software that do. I'm puzzled about this one, too. -- Casmith_789 (talk) 16:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure that special pages, at least here, are coded such that the messages like "redirected from X" don't show up. Problem with that is, it would be a big pain to have to clean up vandalous redirects to special pages, because there's no way to get to the redirected pages without handcoding the URL to stop redirection. -Amarkov moo! 16:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Special pages don't display the 'redirected from' message, so on Wikipedia they can't be redirect targets to prevent hard-to-revert vandalism. (Some other wikis allow such redirects.) --ais523 17:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

The mediawiki can do redirects to special pages. I've done it myself with a mediawiki installation I host for friends. However, as Ais523 brought up, Wikipedia has to deal with a lot more vandalism. I bet Wikimedia turns off this option for the Wikipedia. —Mitaphane _?|! 19:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Preferences

How do I change my preferences for skin back to default. I am stuck in a skin I do not like. BullardJournal 16:58, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

You logon (if you haven't), and their is a link (my preferences, 3rd left on default). You click skin (2nd left) and you have a few choices, one of them Monobook, is the default. The Evil Clown _{Please review me!} 17:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Use this link to open your preferences in the default skin, and select Monobook for your skin and save your preferences (it's the default). --ais523 17:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Copied article

Hi - I have a question about an existing article. I happened to notice that the "history" section of the article 102d Fighter Wing is a word-for word copy of the homepage of the same group. Is that ok? Is it bad? Should I delete it and rewrite it as a paraphrasing of the history? Not sure what to do. Thanks, --Bmk 18:39, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

You could tag it as a copy violation, but if you are able to rewrite it, then that is the most effective action. It could use some improvement anyway, particularly the sub-headings towards the end of the article. Adrian M. H. 18:48, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

ebu tribe

i am tring to find some information on tis tribe who reside in nigera — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.5.218.57 (talk) 06:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Your question is then better placed in Wikipedia:Reference Desk, the place to ask question about factual information. This page is for question about how to use Wikipedia. -- Ynhockey ^(Talk) 19:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Do you mean the Igbo people? Clarityfiend 21:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Image placement

How can I position two images so that they're side by side. Archway has them badly placed. Clarityfiend 20:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Where would you like them to be? (I ask in case it's not possible.) Adrian M. H. 22:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I've tidied their position a little bit, but you may want to have a go at floating one of them so that they are side by side. It is possible, with a bit of tweaking, by placing one image in its own div. Adrian M. H. 22:09, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

It looks okay as it is now, but I was wondering if it was possible to have the list on the left, with one image in the center and one to its right, so the images wouldn't run on past the text. Clarityfiend 23:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding photos to a page

How do I add a photo to a page? Kyle Thomas 22:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[[Image:nameofimage.jpg|thumb|250px|This is an image|left]] - The pixel size is both flexible and optional: you can use a smaller/larger size or not at all (though the default is a bit too small, I think). The "left" bit sets the image to the left and should only be used when appropriate, such as with multiple images throughout a body of text. Include a suitable caption. Adrian M. H. 22:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and I forgot to add that most images can be found on Wiki Commons, though some get uploaded only to this Wiki. Adrian M. H. 22:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Images for some more basic instruction on inserting images in Wikipedia articles. -- Chairman S. Talk ^Contribs 01:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Lost Password

Hello - let me provide some constructive feedback - the UI for contacting someone to seek help on a lost password is very confusing and I could not figure out where to go so my apologies in advance if this is not the right place.

Some time ago - years - I created the login name of Qwiki but cannot recall the password. How may I retrieve it?

Many thanks,

Karl — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.197.60 (talk) 10:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

You can only do so using the 'Email new password' feature on the login screen, and this means that you need to have set an email address when you had access to the account. If not, then there's nothing you can do and you'll have to create a new account. If you made no edits or log actions with the original account, you may want to fill out a usurpation request to rename the original account so that you can adopt the name, but requests are usually only granted to 'reasonably well-established users'. mattbr 23:28, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Archiving

How do I archive my talk page? I just want to archive my 2006 entries on my talk page. Thanks. --ASDFGHJKL=Greatest Person Ever+Coolest Person Ever 23:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

See WP:ARCHIVE and the cut-and-paste method. mattbr 23:31, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

.png to .svg help

I'm having a tougher time than I thought converting from .png to .svg! I downloaded like 4 programs, and none of them seem to work. Could someone who knows what they're doing either talk me through a quick conversion, or if you have a program, say so so that I can upload the images and you could do it for me. Thanks. _└^Jared_┘^┌_talk^┐  23:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Another problem I am having is getting the images in the first place. There are 5 candidate logos in this pdf that I want to take out. They are in SVG now, so anything I do to them (like put them into photoshop) un-svg's them. Could someone help me get these extracted from the PDF? _└^Jared_┘^┌_talk^┐  00:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't know about SVG programs, but you should note that using SVG images of logos is discouraged (as described at Wikipedia:Logos) as this can infringe on fair use as the images are not at a low resolution. mattbr 01:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

It is very hard (almost impossible) to convert PNGs to SVGs because png is a raster graphics type while svg is a vector type. Converting between these (especially from raster to vector) causes severe distortion that is noticeable when magnifying the image. See Vector_graphics & Raster_graphics for more info. - Hdt83 | Talk 01:27, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

March 25

Messages above watchlist

Who puts those messages above the pages in our watchlists? I would guess developers but I don't think they're that active. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 03:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Any administrator. They just need to edit MediaWiki:Watchdetails. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 03:24, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I need help!!!!!

hi there, i´ve seen some customized signatures, with different colors, different kind of letter, and more cool stuff, can anyone tell me how to change the color and the kind of letter of my signature?!?!?! please, answer me in my talk page, thanks the sweet girl xoxo 03:35, 25 March 2007 (UTC)